Russia Ukraine War 2022

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Blademaster

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Facts are that there were far many more russian T tanks destroyed than western ones.
Even during Desert Storm some west tanks were destroyed.... fir thousand russian made ones.
Yeah how many challengers and Leopolds were produced? In hundreds not thousands and nearly all of them are destroyed in the Russian-Ukrainian conflict.
 

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Not an investment - A lend/lease

Meaning, they give you things to fight russians, but later they will make you return all the money with interest.
Once again: Read more carefully. It's free help. It will not need to be returned. Essentially a risky investment. Lend-Lease or a loan may be available now. But we agree to these types of help too. If we win, we will pay back for a hundred years. If we lose, there will be no such country and there will be no need to repay the debt.
 

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Once again: Read more carefully. It's free help. It will not need to be returned. Essentially a risky investment. Lend-Lease or a loan may be available now. But we agree to these types of help too. If we win, we will pay back for a hundred years. If we lose, there will be no such country and there will be no need to repay the debt.
Not the european stuff, but the US has given under lend lease act (the same one they used during WW2 and many conflicts since).

Needs to be paid back.
 

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Not the european stuff, but the US has given under lend lease act (the same one they used during WW2 and many conflicts since).

Needs to be paid back.
Then, to allocate a specific amount, there is no need to contact Congress. But Biden asked him for money every year, although they reintroduced the Lend-Lease law and Biden signed it on May 9, 2022.
By the way, who else received Lend-Lease after WW2?
 

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Then, to allocate a specific amount, there is no need to contact Congress. But Biden asked him for money every year, although they reintroduced the Lend-Lease law and Biden signed it on May 9, 2022.
By the way, who else received Lend-Lease after WW2?
I looked into it, seems like you were right and I had incorrect info.

Lend lease act expired post WW2, with the Ukraine lend lease act also expiring before being utlilised.
 

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Yeah how many challengers and Leopolds were produced? In hundreds not thousands and nearly all of them are destroyed in the Russian-Ukrainian conflict.
No one was in a hurry to attack. The task is to destroy Soviet tank armadas with the help of anti-tank weapons. Therefore, we have no shortage of various ATGMs, grenade launchers, anti-tank mines.
 

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No one was in a hurry to attack. The task is to destroy Soviet tank armadas with the help of anti-tank weapons. Therefore, we have no shortage of various ATGMs, grenade launchers, anti-tank mines.
Russia is manufacturing or refurbishing around 200 Tanks/IFV a month. I don't think so NATO is catching up with this production speed.
 

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Russia is manufacturing or refurbishing around 200 Tanks/IFV a month. I don't think so NATO is catching up with this production speed.
Just don't tell this funny story to anyone else.:)
Today, for the first time in 1.5 months, we were fired upon from a Tu-95. 29 cruise missiles.
Only 29. Last winter this number was 70-80. Moreover, every week.
This is all you need to know about the power of the Russian military industry.
Of course, the Soviet Union had other technological capabilities, but Europe is not the same now either. The German army in 1990 numbered half a million, now it is only 190 thousand people. A third of them are civilians.
 

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Use of the T-72 tank and BMP-3 during the assault on Georgievka. Footage of the assault in the area of Georgievka, a stronghold of the Ukrainian army located nearby in a forest belt. The video shows the use of a presumably Russian T-72 tank and a BMP-3 armored personnel carrier. A group of combat vehicles is moving under Ukrainian artillery fire towards a strong point. When approaching the positions, the tank and infantry fighting vehicles begin to suppress the firing points, after which troops land from the BMP-3 and storm the strong point. The video was filmed in the Maryinsky direction and shortened, the end of the battle is shown on the telegram channel.

 

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Just don't tell this funny story to anyone else.:)
Today, for the first time in 1.5 months, we were fired upon from a Tu-95. 29 cruise missiles.
Only 29. Last winter this number was 70-80. Moreover, every week.
This is all you need to know about the power of the Russian military industry.
And you left out something important. The Russians have started using glide bombs with heavy ordnance. They found that to be better and more cost effective. And you still can't stop those. And as for your comment regarding the power of Russian military industry, :bplease:. Russia was able to outproduce US and European by a factor of 2 times or more when it came to production of shells, missiles, ATGMs, and armored vehicles such as BMP and tanks.
 

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Just don't tell this funny story to anyone else.:)
Today, for the first time in 1.5 months, we were fired upon from a Tu-95. 29 cruise missiles.
Only 29. Last winter this number was 70-80. Moreover, every week.
This is all you need to know about the power of the Russian military industry.
Of course, the Soviet Union had other technological capabilities, but Europe is not the same now either. The German army in 1990 numbered half a million, now it is only 190 thousand people. A third of them are civilians.
I don't think 200 tanks/IFV is hard for Russia to produce a month, but keep on underestimating the Russians. Underestimating your enemy is one of the smartest wisest things you can do.
 

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I don't think 200 tanks/IFV is hard for Russia to produce a month, but keep on underestimating the Russians. Underestimating your enemy is one of the smartest wisest things you can do.
And overestimate too.

Today Shoigu watched the production of FAB-1500 and 3000. If we blow up this plant, we will save the residents of Belgorod and Kursk, because we are not afraid of free-falling bombs. These republics do not have their own air defense.
 

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And overestimate too.

Today Shoigu watched the production of FAB-1500 and 3000. If we blow up this plant, we will save the residents of Belgorod and Kursk, because we are not afraid of free-falling bombs. These republics do not have their own air defense.
Again wishful thinking with zero substance.

Your wishful thinking has been resulted in 500 thausands dead and 20% loss of territory.

Akim, Crimean bridge is a monument for Ukraine. Since day one, this bridge has been prime target but Ukraine fail to block it even for single day.

Now you dreaming to blow up the ammunition plant situated deep in Russian territory.

NATO soldiers already in Ukraine so before Zelensky disclose their presence, make sure you have enough Iodine tablets.

This War will not end peacefully
 

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And overestimate too.

Today Shoigu watched the production of FAB-1500 and 3000. If we blow up this plant, we will save the residents of Belgorod and Kursk, because we are not afraid of free-falling bombs. These republics do not have their own air defense.
Free falling bombs? That's just another term for a dumb bomb. These are not dumb bombs, they are guided. What do you mean "we" are not afraid? Do you speak for everyone, or just yourself?
 

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