Russia Ukraine War 2022

[Jimih]

They let a 14 year old stupid girl walk all over them and dictate their energy policy.

 

[omaebakabaka]

any qualitative edge that Ukraine has with its more limited number of shells / rockets will be neutralized..

what exactly is their qualitative edge that proved to be decisive so far other than throwing people at it like Stalin and hoping for some success?

 

[Varzone]

He says they shouldn't go away. They asked for artillery for 3 hours. But, apparently, neither artillery nor aviation helped.

Yay! Privet Andrei is back

 

[Ylside]

what exactly is their qualitative edge that proved to be decisive so far other than throwing people at it like Stalin and hoping for some success?

For example, Ukraine posesses, although in small quantities

- artillery systems which are by at least one generation newer compared to Soviet stuff used by Russia. Russian Koaliytsia-SV, which was supposed to be an answer to these systems, in still in testing after 15 years of development.
- precision ammunition (Excalibur) and smart ammunition (Smart 155, Bofors Bonus). On the contrary, all Russians have is Krasnopol rounds which need extremely rare Orlan-30 drone for targeting, so they have to rely on pure quantity during their artillery barrages.
- guided rocket artillery (HIMARS). Again, Russians have no alternative to these, their Smerch or Uragan systems are highly inaccurate so they have to load them with cluster ammo to achieve any effect
- satellite reconaissance provided by NATO. Again, in this field, Russians are far behind because they were never particularly good when it comes to optics.

 

[ww2historian]

I don't know why this didn't occur to me sooner, but during this video Anthony Blinken basically said we don't trust Germany to not import Russian gas. Therefore the Nord steam pipeline being damaged was a tremendous opportunity to guarantee this from happening. Now the US is the number one supplier of natural gas to Europe in the world. I guess we knew Germany was going to import gas from Russia no matter what.https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1578790866751135744?s=20&t=cVOxO2xUiGZIeRY_5w7rHA

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

For example, Ukraine posesses, although in small quantities

- artillery systems which are by at least one generation newer compared to Soviet stuff used by Russia. Russian Koaliytsia-SV, which was supposed to be an answer to these systems, in still in testing after 15 years of development.
- precision ammunition (Excalibur) and smart ammunition (Smart 155, Bofors Bonus). On the contrary, all Russians have is Krasnopol rounds which need extremely rare Orlan-30 drone for targeting, so they have to rely on pure quantity during their artillery barrages.
- guided rocket artillery (HIMARS). Again, Russians have no alternative to these, their Smerch or Uragan systems are highly inaccurate so they have to load them with cluster ammo to achieve any effect
- satellite reconaissance provided by NATO. Again, in this field, Russians are far behind because they were never particularly good when it comes to optics.

The thing is ukraine might recieve the weaponry from outside but not electricity.

 

[omaebakabaka]

For example, Ukraine posesses, although in small quantities

- artillery systems which are by at least one generation newer compared to Soviet stuff used by Russia. Russian Koaliytsia-SV, which was supposed to be an answer to these systems, in still in testing after 15 years of development.
- precision ammunition (Excalibur) and smart ammunition (Smart 155, Bofors Bonus). On the contrary, all Russians have is Krasnopol rounds which need extremely rare Orlan-30 drone for targeting, so they have to rely on pure quantity during their artillery barrages.
- guided rocket artillery (HIMARS). Again, Russians have no alternative to these, their Smerch or Uragan systems are highly inaccurate so they have to load them with cluster ammo to achieve any effect
- satellite reconaissance provided by NATO. Again, in this field, Russians are far behind because they were never particularly good when it comes to optics.

I don't think there is any evidence at all that western artillary supplied is any more effective than soviet derived ones in Ukraine armed forces or Russian ones deployed (they did not deploy their modern gear in numbers yet)....pretty piss poor considering the barrel breakdowns and maintenance reports by AFU itself..

I agree recon may be better as US and NATO intel is way ahead collectively from human to tech compared to Russia but not proving to be game changer....,their trenching and defensive tactics seems to be effective somwhat.

All those thousands of atgms made zero impact in terms of offense as they lost 15 to 20% more land....

 

[Ylside]

All those thousands of atgms made zero impact in terms of offense as they lost 15 to 20% more land....

Well, they destroyed hundreds of Russian tanks and armored vehicles, so there is some impact after all - if not for them, Russians probably wouldn´t be forced to grab rusty T-62Ms and BMP-1s from their storages

And do we really need to argue that single unit of modern western artillery with precision ammunition is better than a single unit of Soviet arty with unguided shells? Hell, even Russian commanders complain that they have hard time hitting anything

 

[assassin162]

Globohomo cocksuckers ~ "bro I am with the underdog bro Ukraine is the underdog bro".....

Ukraine is not underdog but Ukraine is dog, well fed, well trained well equipped, well mindwashed dog of America. No sympathies with mindwashed people. These people are just breathing because Russia believes these Amrican mindwashed zombies to still be their blood brother....70~80% Ukrainians are paying price for decisions taken by some CIA and catholic church's powered Nazis।।

 

[assassin162]

India would have been a willing accomplise if Russia would have been integrated with Europe and joint Russia~Europe and America would have taken on China's rising might।
But deep hatred of Amrican deep state for Russia where they fail to seen any practicality or reason means the fate of the globe is sealed, it will now keep on tilting towards China. India should rather concentrate on it's own peaceful rise rather than being accomplise of any anglo saxon games or we will be the next Ukraine for them.

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

@hit&run @ezsasa Maha recommended read.

 

[assassin162]

India is inherently anti China..... But we are not foolish enough to fight China for no gain of ours. But just think how America has made Ukraine fight with Russia like zombies. Cant it do the same with us? Takong control of govt, feeding wrong information to us, creating a series of escalations and then giving us word of mouth support?
Following anglo saxons is a recepy for disaster.

 

[DumbPilot]

Wasn't expecting Vitaly Kim to say something like this.. what a reference.

 

[DumbPilot]

Shevchenko substation in Belgorod, Russia has been struck by Ukraine.

 

[assassin162]

Globo Homo News Cartel ~ so you did not kill many people like we do in a single strike, despite launching hundreds of missiles, looks like your missile is not good as ours.

 

[Varzone]

Such nice people...I wonder why Ukraine is fighting them.

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

 

[bhramos]

 

[omaebakabaka]

Well, they destroyed hundreds of Russian tanks and armored vehicles, so there is some impact after all - if not for them, Russians probably wouldn´t be forced to grab rusty T-62Ms and BMP-1s from their storages

And do we really need to argue that single unit of modern western artillery with precision ammunition is better than a single unit of Soviet arty with unguided shells? Hell, even Russian commanders complain that they have hard time hitting anything

At this rate, they just need to supply 1000 arty units and Ukraine can empty out Russian tank units and reach Moscow or lose another 20% land of their own and claim victory in woke world....wonder where all that 80 billion went....

Rhetoric at this point as I can see your posts, don't bother to respond.

 

[assassin162]

Such nice people...I wonder why Ukraine is fighting them.

After bombing this guys family, relatives, community for 8 years, you are asking why this guy is saying this?