Russia Ukraine War 2022

Who will win this war?.


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Kumaoni

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After being brutally humiliated and globally embarrassed by Ukrainians. Getting their ass kicked by constant counter offensives, ultimately losing Kherson, the Russians seem to have rebounded. It’s just a matter of slugging with the Ukrainians.
 

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After being brutally humiliated and globally embarrassed by Ukrainians. Getting their ass kicked by constant counter offensives, ultimately losing Kherson, the Russians seem to have rebounded. It’s just a matter of slugging with the Ukrainians.
It seems you are a Panotii, whichever side you go disaster follow.
Please keep on Gl0b0h0m0s Liberandu-Sickulars side and try to find peace there.

By the way, now you logic also match them too.
 

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It seems you are a Panotii, whichever side you go disaster follow.
Please keep on Gl0b0h0m0s Liberandu-Sickulars side and try to find peace there.

By the way, now you logic also match them too.
I was on Ukrainian side during Mariupol or severedonetsk?
 

vishnugupt

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Dude, Challengers are basically T-series of the NATO MBTs (as I'm sure you're well aware of), so they would fail in even more spectacular fashion.
Not the first time a German tank has been taken out by the Russians in today's Ukraine.
Bros.? Am I witnessing Baseline shift again here?

2 days back Leopard was best tank in the world now suddenly becomes junk.

People see weapons but do not see philosophy behind the weapons. No weapon is bad if it match philosophy behind its birth.

T tanks are legendary, had participated in hundreds of wars and performed exceptionally. Similarly western tanks are not built for Ukraine and bound to be destroyed.
 

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Bros.? Am I witnessing Baseline shift again here?

2 days back Leopard was best tank in the world now suddenly becomes junk.

People see weapons but do not see philosophy behind the weapons. No weapon is bad if it match philosophy behind its birth.

T tanks are legendary, had participated in hundreds of wars and performed exceptionally. Similarly western tanks are not built for Ukraine and bound to be destroyed.
Bhai sahab aise hi general sawal hai , western tank fir kise liye bane hain?
 

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>Ukrainian casualties in Zaporozhye ramp up to 1143 KIA. A sizable armor column carrying injured were seen leaving the area. Russian forces are successfully baiting AFU to commit at choke points (link).
>Shoigu visits local bakery to sample the stock (link).
>AFU retreated from the town of Novodonetske, which went back to Russian control.
>AFU's near suicidal Kremmina campaign has become a disaster.
More than half of the light brigades sent were wiped out by the VDV (link).
>BAE systems admits Britain can no longer produce large caliber barrels in sizable quantities. Stored Challenger 2 and AS90s are cannibalized for spare barrels. The only major facility capable of making 120mm tank guns in Nottingham was decommissioned.

>Ukrainian armor losses rapidly mounting up (link). AFU is yet to penetrate the first line of defense (link). And there are 5 lines to go through (link).
>AFU MLRS detachment in Northern Kamenskoye was neutralized by counter battery fire and suicide drones (link).
>6 M113 APCs, 2-3 MRAPs and 9-10 MaxxPro and Senator armored vehicles were seen ferrying out the dead and injured troops from Lobkovoe.
>Ukrainian motorized infantry detachment in Zherebyanka was wiped out while trying drive through a minefield.
>German Chancellor Scholz outright refused to donate any fighter jets to Ukraine.
>AFU's motorized pincer attack on Blahodatne was countered by the defending Russian forces.
>Ka-52 squadron was hunting the two mechanized brigades armed with PT-91 and Leopard tanks at Orkhiv. The 65th mechanized lost 33 tanks.
>Russian 291st Guards Motorized Rifle Regiment countered the advancing AFU SoF unit in Kreminna forest during the night.

>AFU's efforts at Rabotino continues to get pummeled by Russian air power. AFU reserve forces continue to be thrown at Zaporozhye.

>Germany hasn't built new Leopard hulls in 20 years and is incapable of doing so currently (link).
 
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It was a chatter that NATO tanks were urban queens and they were designed considering the terrain of Eestern European nations where decent infra and terrain was a given.
Other than that it seems like Ukrainains are just throwing in men and machine in the grinder.
They are getting ambushed time and time again.

Abram is the only tank that has a performance record against a decent enemy in a difficult terrain.
 

Anirbann Datta

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If Ukraine's minister of propaganda says Leopard ll tanks were destroyed, then their is little doubt left.
Update from Ukraine | The Counterattack Start is not good | Leopard-2 Convoy was Ambushed

Denys Davydov

basically ukrn copying russian movements of running chicken during march 22, while russia copying ukrainian tactics of waiting with kornet (o) instead of javelins....
everybody is learning something from others.
 

Raj Malhotra

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Western heavy tanks of 1980s were developed to face the Soviet army in central and Western Europe. they were meant to fight from dug in and from hull down position. Therefore they have very heavily armoured turret & front. Apart from that their armour is relatively weak. They are also supposed to have good electronics, night fighting capability and very high accuracy.

All this is useless against artillery, mines and guided ATGMs. If Russians hold their nerves, then they will be difficult to be driven back. last week Skirmishes would have given lot of confidence to Russian soldiers and they will become more resolute.
 

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While Russian have done well in the first week of counter offensive, but it still seems that Ukraine has not started its main offensive.

Where are :-

1. Massive barrage of HIMARS
2. Tanks with mine removing rollers
3. Extensive use of Javelin ATGMs
4. Deep attacks with Black Storms & GLSDBs ?


Either Russia is celebrating prematurely , or Ukraine is holding back
 

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While Russian have done well in the first week of counter offensive, but it still seems that Ukraine has not started its main offensive.

Where are :-

1. Massive barrage of HIMARS
2. Tanks with mine removing rollers
3. Extensive use of Javelin ATGMs
4. Deep attacks with Black Storms & GLSDBs ?


Either Russia is celebrating prematurely , or Ukraine is holding back
All those are expensive...can only be justified if used against HVT instead to four person foxholes.

But the confusing question is, where are all the FPV drones? They had thousands of them, the whole Chinese supply chain was exhausted, just four days prior they're so effectively engaging everything from Scooby doo vans to Pantsirs...why are they missing?
 

vishnugupt

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While Russian have done well in the first week of counter offensive, but it still seems that Ukraine has not started its main offensive.

Where are :-

1. Massive barrage of HIMARS
2. Tanks with mine removing rollers
3. Extensive use of Javelin ATGMs
4. Deep attacks with Black Storms & GLSDBs ?


Either Russia is celebrating prematurely , or Ukraine is holding back
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
What do you think about hundreds of Russian missiles attack every week against Ukrainians??

These weapons are now only in memories of Gl0b0h0m0s Liberandu-Sickulars. In reality they have long gone.
 

vishnugupt

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Ukrainians are hinting to sign the peace agreement with Moscow if Russia willing to change the goals of special operations
West has burnt all bridges and Now Negotiation with Russia will be as hard as fighting war today in Ukraine.

Negotiations with Ukraine is meaningless, Russia will not negotiate with Ukraine, this is NATO which have to negotiate.
 
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vishnugupt

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For Gl0b0h0m0s Liberandu-Sickulars who has been consistently underestimating Russian power. Their daddy believes Russia still a superpower.


Gl0b0h0m0s Liberandu-Sickulars war strategy is very simple and quite visible in Zheporozhiya.

1) Laugh and make memes when Russian making multilayered defence lines in Zheporozhiya
2) Cry next day on colossal loss of men and machine and Curse Putler
3) Ringe and repeat

Till today, Ukraine has only two strategic points in Danbas.

1) Mariupol, which they already lost.
2) Melitopol, Which they have been trying to reach through Zheporozhiya.
Until Ukraine reach one of this point it's chance to winning this war remain Zero.
 

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