Russia Ukraine War 2022

Who will win this war?.


  • Total voters
    551

WARREN SS

Senior Member
Joined
Oct 12, 2013
Messages
5,570
Likes
20,877
Country flag
I will disagree with you on this video. This is a typical congress behavior. Blame the gov while sounding intellectual. On all of the issues he spoke the GOI had no control over them On students issue gov issued a notification a month ago but the students did not listen. Regrading admission in medical colleges in India, he blamed the government but I think until you remove reservation nothing is going to happen. Will congress support the BJP when bjp will try to remove reservations. I don't think so. Regarding using diplomacy to mediate between RUS and UKR. GOI already answered a million times that the international community should come forward. I don't know what more GOI should do. We have been neutral because we have interest's and not that we have been friends with Russia. Shashi Tharoor is misinterpreting our neutrality.
many of His points on the Future of Indian Russian relationship is accurate

Indian Deep state in Limbo After this war

Right now We are in the Ending phase of our Strategic relationship With the Russians
as they don't see the Chinese as a threat as we do

Sino-Russian Alliance is a geopolitical reality

India is Just Buying Time For ending Its Dependance on Russians
 

Shashank Nayak

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 27, 2017
Messages
5,153
Likes
17,261
Country flag
Not quite, each bullet would steadily lose brightness towards the tail end and they move in a pattern suggestive of mass.

The 'tracers' in the movie looks like laser shot in comparison

modern tracer firing example
LMG tracer bullets would move en masse..

Check out the 25 mm tracer bullets from Bush Master.. They don't move in a bunch

Check -1:35 of the video, for long streaks..
If the video is taken from near the source of the firing, you would see longer streaks..

 

GaudaNaresh

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 8, 2022
Messages
3,051
Likes
9,581
Country flag
Question to the defenders of Putin's 4D Chess game.. Do you forsee a Russian withdrawal from Kherson city ? If that happens, it would be a huge NKMKB ( Novorossiya ka Maa ka Bho**a ) :dude:
Depends on how Donbass goes. Donbass is the main target, followed by land bridge to crimea. Kherson is on the opposite side of the Dneiper, so it can be lost. But Kherson is important to conquer Odessa and make Ukronazis landlocked. So it will be vacated only if there is steep pressure in Donbass/inability to break through.
If breakthrough in Donbass comes, Ukraine will definitely be landlocked.
 

ym888

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 11, 2021
Messages
1,942
Likes
1,212
They are now

Just formal acceptance left

There is no Breathe Left for Russians to survive Without the Chinese now
it was a few decades ago

That's not possible now

But the two countries can get along well and cooperate in many aspects.

China needs Russian energy products
 

HitmanBlood

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 30, 2021
Messages
1,489
Likes
12,397
Country flag
Refusing to condemn Russia doesn't mean we endorse Russia

What I agree with

Kind of agree with him on "as much as buyer needs seller, seller also needs buyer." We need to see our relationship with Russia on transactional basis because they are not doing any charity by selling weapons to India.

Also his concerns about Russia being a junior partner of China is equally valid. India being out of sync with QUAD is also a valid argument.

Another important argument is India can't always be a fencesitter. Sometimes you have to take a side.


What I don't agree with

He didn't mention rising inflation in India because of western sanctions on Russia. We have just began to recover from massive economic impact of covid. West has specifically carved sanctions in a way to minimises its impact on their economy while countries like India are left to deal with it on their own. There is no gesture of good faith extanded by any western country to address economic concerns of developing countries.

He also didn't mention the fact that western countries are openly threatening India's foreign policy without considering its impact on relationship with India. Meanwhile India has been extremely careful with its language.

He didn't talk about CAATSA sanctions. It predates Ukraine Russia war. US showed no willingness even before war to give any exemption to India. On one hand US is asking India to dump Russian weapons and on other hand dangling sword of sanctions. If India dumps Russia today, and after that US puts CAATSA sanctions on weapons sale to India, it will be biggest disastor for Indian defence and it will take decades upon decades to recover from it.


My takeaway

This is a complex geo political situation. There is no simple answer. As war drags on longer Russia will tilt towards china more and west will try to pressure India more. It is going to be very difficult tight rope walk for India in future. We must maintain functional relationship with both Russia and west as we don't have any other choice.
 
Last edited:

JBH22

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 29, 2010
Messages
6,538
Likes
18,045
Question to the defenders of Putin's 4D Chess game.. Do you forsee a Russian withdrawal from Kherson city ? If that happens, it would be a huge NKMKB ( Novorossiya ka Maa ka Bho**a ) :dude:
Winning or losing is part of the game. Outcome will define his legacy.
But the guy was boxed in a corner and had to fight back. Sooner or later they were coming for color revolution in Russia to introduce a pliable puppet like Navalany.
 

Latest Replies

Global Defence

New threads

Articles

Top