Project 75A class Nuclear Attack Submarine

[Abdus Salem killed]

Nucltand ??????

.aip is planned after last scorpene is inducted 2022 2023

Nuclear submarine in the class of Arihant arighat etc how much of that is Indian?

 

[Lonewolf]

Nuclear submarine in the class of Arihant arighat etc how much of that is Indian?

Don't know ,ask @Chinmoy , well reactor is indigenous with roosie help

 

[Abdus Salem killed]

Don't know ,ask @Chinmoy , well reactor is indigenous with roosie help

@Chinmoy any idea ?

 

[Chinmoy]

@Chinmoy any idea ?

Few subsystems are from foreign OEM. But majority of sensors and power system are Indian.

 

[Abdus Salem killed]

Few subsystems are from foreign OEM. But majority of sensors and power system are Indian.

What about vc-118 ins dhruv

 

[Chinmoy]

What about vc-118 ins dhruv

Even it is not 100% indigenous.

 

[Abdus Salem killed]

Even it is not 100% indigenous.

Why?

 

[Chinmoy]

Why?

Why it should be in first place?

 

[Abdus Salem killed]

Why it should be in first place?

How much indeginous

 

[Chinmoy]

How much indeginous

Propulsions system is not indigenous.

 

[Lonewolf]

Propulsions system is not indigenous.

Sir if you have info , can you tell ,do we have any indian manufacturer making electric motor for application in submarine propulsion or big Diesel engine for submarine , with usage to be used in commercial sector like big pump motor for hydroelectric energy and diesel generator for industrial application

 

[Chinmoy]

Sir if you have info , can you tell ,do we have any indian manufacturer making electric motor for application in submarine propulsion or big Diesel engine for submarine , with usage to be used in commercial sector like big pump motor for hydroelectric energy and diesel generator for industrial application

NMRL is working on the propulsion tech for submarine along with a few incubators. I believe even IIT Chennai is working in the project.
As far as diesel engine for sub is concerned, there is no news of anyone working on it.

And please, drop the Sir tag.

 

[LondonParisTokyo]

Do we have names for who is responsible for reviewing these orders and contracts and who is responsible for signing them? What is stopping the IITs (who send people to then work for these same international defense organizations) from developing the technology in-house?

 

[Lonewolf]

Do we have names for who is responsible for reviewing these orders and contracts and who is responsible for signing them? What is stopping the IITs (who send people to then work for these same international defense organizations) from developing the technology in-house?

Sir iit can't design a full scale submarine , nor do they have budget , neither experience .

They can make particular technology required and that too best in class if given budget , like say any construction alloy to reduce weight of specific components ,or software for a particular sensor ,or emitting module for a sensor and so based on paper specs given to them . And they should do so only

 

[Gessler]

How ?? If deal is signed in 2022 ,and construction starts in 2023 ,we get first submarine in 2028

"if deal is signed in 2022"

Concluding both technical & commercial negotiations and signing deal in 1 year's time? You must be joking.

Till 2025 we won't even decide which one to buy, the technical evaluations will easily take 3-4 years.

After that the commercial bidding and cost negotiations, another 3-4 years if past deals are any indication.

Very unlikely if even the construction of 1st boat will start before 2030, let alone induction.

Shiv Aroor thinks the same:

 

[Tactical Doge]

"if deal is signed in 2022"

Concluding both technical & commercial negotiations and signing deal in 1 year's time? You must be joking.

Till 2025 we won't even decide which one to buy, the technical evaluations will easily take 3-4 years.

After that the commercial bidding and cost negotiations, another 3-4 years if past deals are any indication.

Very unlikely if even the construction of 1st boat will start before 2030, let alone induction.

Shiv Aroor thinks the same:

Frustrating much

 

[Lonewolf]

Frustrating much

I am having a different opinion here , rfp is issued to lnt and mdl to submit bids technical and financial bids altogether , maybe process is faster this time

 

[Tactical Doge]

I am having a different opinion here , rfp is issued to lnt and mdl to submit bids technical and financial bids altogether , maybe process is faster this time

I have no knowledge of how procurement process works in the MoD
In the MHA atleast it is seemless
But Babus do have a holier than thou attitude, I can confirm coz I have interacted with one
They'll lick of whatever wherever they can
Don't take copium,
Fact of the matter remains, our procurement is a joke unless commanders are given Emergency Financial powers

 

[Lonewolf]

I have no knowledge of how procurement process works in the MoD
In the MHA atleast it is seemless
But Babus do have a holier than thou attitude, I can confirm coz I have interacted with one
They'll lick of whatever wherever they can
Don't take copium,
Fact of the matter remains, our procurement is a joke unless commanders are given Emergency Financial powers

No doubt in that , but this procurement is under new model , maybe they wanna improve things , i think nobody can comment adequately on this topic till we see next outcome , let the bids come for it

 

[Tactical Doge]

No doubt in that , but this procurement is under new model , maybe they wanna improve things , i think nobody can comment adequately on this topic till we see next outcome , let the bids come for it

You're coping too hard fella
From my rudimentary understanding lemme tell you how lobbying works
Company A, B and C are pitching their models, obviously only one can be selected, therefore A,B and C will do some "under the table" dealings, the company which can do more, "under the table" dyk polishing will get the deal(I speculate)
Meanwhile our Babus will try to make it stuck between red tapes as long as possible to squeeze out whatever droplets they can of the green papers