North East Security Watch

[Suryavanshi]

I used to think missionaries would do the betterment of NE

You are quite older than all of us. I think what missionaries are and aren't you would have understood very early on. Did you discover it just now?

BJP will lose the last hindu frontier of India if it thinks of only winning seats, already the people's hate for BJP is running very high and Congress is taking full advantage of the mayhem

Meiti will lose not BJP. BJP is a political party not a individual they can function without Manipur.

Even some meities are Christians right? Which side are they fighting on?

If it isn't a religious issue than Christians Meities should be majority your side, is it?

 

[Suryavanshi]

I think all the Randi Rona about NE is useless until we address the issue about demographics.
Which is simply not possible, since our constitution does not allow gormint to hold double standards but people can hold double standards against the constitution.

First people need to decide whether religion is a factor or not?
At the end of the day the We has a tendency to make everything communlaized from outsider perspective.

 

[tomthounaojam]

You are quite older than all of us. I think what missionaries are and aren't you would have understood very early on. Did you discover it just now?

What you are asking is a very valid question when I was growing up in Shillong I didn't question cause you are swayed by the environment, trust me if you grew up in a similar environment you will have the same outlook. However, when you grow older and own your own in the free environment you ponder around and realize the manipulations.
Some Meitei are Christian too but they are fairly very small, they are just a few thousand.

 

[Arjun Mk1A]

The problem is we are still handling North eastern states under exception. Same thing we have done with Kashmir for last 70+ years until we removed 370 and make them understand it is simply another state.

Similar scenario should be started to ingrain in Northeastern people mind that you are another state and u need to stand on your own.

 

[Johny_Baba]

crux of north eastern problems and related christian evangelism etc lies with none other than Jawaharlal Kaul "Nehru" only;

in fact he was one big reason behind islamization of erstwhile Assam (now states separated from Assam in post '47 world) too read about Dhaka plan of the Muslim League and how they got power in the govt of Assam before independence by coalition with congress; started mass migration of bengali muslims in the Hill areas and in protest many congressi in coalition resigned thus bringing the govt down - that gave a chance to Congress to form a govt there and they did in 1938; but Jawaharlal and his lackies had to intervene that they made their own govt in Assam fall by resignations again in just a year and in some short time it gave a chance to Muslim League again to form a govt after securing enough support result was land settlement policy that provided each bengali "migrant" muslim with some land in the Hill and Valley areas of Assam for permanent residence and in big way set an example for bengali muslims to infiltrate in erstwhile Assam-NEFA and successor state; long term result is evident already

coming to christianization of the NE and Nehru's role in it
-> Nehru became Foreign Minister in '47 along with the Prime Minister
-> He had an angrez advisor, Verrier Elwin, a known "missionary" in past; also "Anthropologist and Tribal Activist" this Elwin subhuman was a known rapist and sexual abuser; particularly he used to sleep around with young tribal girls in name of 'participant observation' ; this Elwin literally advised Nehru against integration and development of these NE states then under single entity NEFA citing reasons of 'preservation of their pristine characters and culture' ; he was appointed as "Anthropological Advisor of NEFA" by Nehru ; and being an Evangelical himself; he gave full free run to those activities in the erstwhile NEFA and related regions while at same time keeping the people and the region almost isolated from mainstream India
-> as if this was not enough; those Evangelicals there used to literally propagate things that 'Govt of India treats you people as foreigners; they literally kept matter of NEFA under Foreign Ministry while leaving rest of the Union (of India) to be managed by Home Ministry' - last line was ironically true because our great Videsh Mantri Nehru used to handle things in the NEFA so this kind of propaganda did work!
-> rest was done by poverty perpetuating socialism that Nehru spread across the country; setting up the situations where they can simply flat out lie that 'ham toh gareeb desh hai ji' and in turn giving free hands to christian evangelics based "missions" there for building schools, hospitals and all BUT also providing free ground for all sort of activities

this kept continuing there for long periods even after Nehru; as Indira had got those tribals acting against evangelical activities in Mizoram bombed with IAF planes and all

end result of all this = A near-total segregation of almost the entire North East for over fifty years. Elwin’s preservation policy left a devastating trail of Churches, inter and intra community hostilities and various secessionist movements for "Christian State of Nagaland" , "Mizo People's Republic" and what not; while rest of the union got to enjoy development and industries and upliftment of people NE got Bibles and Churches and Communism and guns.

 

[Suryavanshi]

crux of north eastern problems and related christian evangelism etc lies with none other than Jawaharlal Kaul "Nehru" only;

in fact he was one big reason behind islamization of erstwhile Assam (now states separated from Assam in post '47 world) too read about Dhaka plan of the Muslim League and how they got power in the govt of Assam before independence by coalition with congress; started mass migration of bengali muslims in the Hill areas and in protest many congressi in coalition resigned thus bringing the govt down - that gave a chance to Congress to form a govt there and they did in 1938; but Jawaharlal and his lackies had to intervene that they made their own govt in Assam fall by resignations again in just a year and in some short time it gave a chance to Muslim League again to form a govt after securing enough support result was land settlement policy that provided each bengali "migrant" muslim with some land in the Hill and Valley areas of Assam for permanent residence and in big way set an example for bengali muslims to infiltrate in erstwhile Assam-NEFA and successor state; long term result is evident already

coming to christianization of the NE and Nehru's role in it
-> Nehru became Foreign Minister in '47 along with the Prime Minister
-> He had an angrez advisor, Verrier Elwin, a known "missionary" in past; also "Anthropologist and Tribal Activist" this Elwin subhuman was a known rapist and sexual abuser; particularly he used to sleep around with young tribal girls in name of 'participant observation' ; this Elwin literally advised Nehru against integration and development of these NE states then under single entity NEFA citing reasons of 'preservation of their pristine characters and culture' ; he was appointed as "Anthropological Advisor of NEFA" by Nehru ; and being an Evangelical himself; he gave full free run to those activities in the erstwhile NEFA and related regions while at same time keeping the people and the region almost isolated from mainstream India
-> as if this was not enough; those Evangelicals there used to literally propagate things that 'Govt of India treats you people as foreigners; they literally kept matter of NEFA under Foreign Ministry while leaving rest of the Union (of India) to be managed by Home Ministry' - last line was ironically true because our great Videsh Mantri Nehru used to handle things in the NEFA so this kind of propaganda did work!
-> rest was done by poverty perpetuating socialism that Nehru spread across the country; setting up the situations where they can simply flat out lie that 'ham toh gareeb desh hai ji' and in turn giving free hands to christian evangelics based "missions" there for building schools, hospitals and all BUT also providing free ground for all sort of activities

this kept continuing there for long periods even after Nehru; as Indira had got those tribals acting against evangelical activities in Mizoram bombed with IAF planes and all

end result of all this = A near-total segregation of almost the entire North East for over fifty years. Elwin’s preservation policy left a devastating trail of Churches, inter and intra community hostilities and various secessionist movements for "Christian State of Nagaland" , "Mizo People's Republic" and what not; while rest of the union got to enjoy development and industries and upliftment of people NE got Bibles and Churches and Communism and guns.

We have a lot of Christian in the armed forces both from NE and all over India. I wonder what they think of our posts like these.

Basic question yet again.
Is it a crime to be a Christian in India?
When talking about Christian radicalism we will hear whataboutism like "you Hindus are no better"

How will discourse ever be achieved?

 

[nixin]

Guys was this posted earlier?
@tomthounaojam any truth to this?

On 16th September:

‘Centre will use IAF to destroy poppy fields if Manipur govt approaches it’ | Guwahati News - Times of India

The Coordinating Committee on Manipur Integrity (Cocomi), an umbrella body of civil society organisations based in Imphal valley, has stated that defe

m.timesofindia.com

Two days ago:

Indian Air Force directed to destroy poppy plantation in Manipur

Imphal: Union Defence Minister Rajnath Singh has directed the Indian Air Force to destroy poppy plantations before harvest during this season in Manipur.

nenow.in

 

[Azaad]

Guys was this posted earlier?

On 16th September:

‘Centre will use IAF to destroy poppy fields if Manipur govt approaches it’ | Guwahati News - Times of India

The Coordinating Committee on Manipur Integrity (Cocomi), an umbrella body of civil society organisations based in Imphal valley, has stated that defe

m.timesofindia.com

Two days ago:

Indian Air Force directed to destroy poppy plantation in Manipur

Imphal: Union Defence Minister Rajnath Singh has directed the Indian Air Force to destroy poppy plantations before harvest during this season in Manipur.

nenow.in

Yup. That's the way to go about it. Make a public announcement 3 weeks ago & re iterate it 2 weeks later. Those popppy fields would still be sitting waiting to be harvested & for the IAF to destroy them.

 

[Sanglamorre]

Yup. That's the way to go about it. Make a public announcement 3 weeks ago & re iterate it 2 weeks later. Those popppy fields would still be sitting waiting to be harvested & for the IAF to destroy them.

Yeah, its like they are giving warnings to harvest the poppy asap so they can do some drama of "destroying" fields and yet no poppy is actually lost.

Dirty game.

 

[tomthounaojam]

Guys was this posted earlier?
@tomthounaojam any truth to this?

On 16th September:

‘Centre will use IAF to destroy poppy fields if Manipur govt approaches it’ | Guwahati News - Times of India

The Coordinating Committee on Manipur Integrity (Cocomi), an umbrella body of civil society organisations based in Imphal valley, has stated that defe

m.timesofindia.com

Two days ago:

Indian Air Force directed to destroy poppy plantation in Manipur

Imphal: Union Defence Minister Rajnath Singh has directed the Indian Air Force to destroy poppy plantations before harvest during this season in Manipur.

nenow.in

Yes, however, they made it sound very dramatic. IAF won't bomb those places at the max they will send in the "Choppa" and spray some agent to kill the poppies. But that also can be done by the state using drones as well, saying IAF is more like a moral victory than action. Cause unless those poor farmers don't have alternative crops to grow or get sustainable income the problem is back to square one. This crop destroying is good for optic but doesn't solves the problem in the long run.

 

[ZaPtb]

ULFA-I executes two cadres for anti-outfit activities in outfit’s Myanmar camp

On October 3, the Independent faction of the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA-I) claimed that it executed a senior cadre of the outfit identified as Lachit Hazarika alias Brigadier Salim Asom and a women cadre of the outfit identified as Bornali Asom alias Nayanmoni Chetia at the outfit’s Hachi camp located in Sagain area of Myanmar on September 20, accusing them of engaging in anti-outfit activities, The Sentinel reports. Sources stated that Salim Asom maintained close ties with ULFA-I chief Paresh Baruah and had been associated with the organization since the 1990s. Bornali had joined the outfit in 2021.The outfit claimed that the two were found guilty of spying for the security forces (SFs). They were using women cadres to blackmail some male members to surrender and killing a few who tried to desert the outfit's camps.

 

[shade]

Coupta's rag proving cover fire for Cookies, humanising secessionists and terrorists

‘Ignored & forgotten’ or ‘base of live insurgency’ — inside a Manipur SoO camp for Kuki insurgents

Suspension of Operations camps were set up across the state as part of pact signed in 2008. But despite its commitment to rehabilitating these cadres, no tangible steps have been taken.

theprint.in

Carrom, kitchen work, weapons upkeep: A day in the lives of Kuki 'insurgents' at an SoO camp in Manipur

Daily routine of inmates, who signed Suspension of Operation pact with state & central govts in 2008, includes duties to maintain the camp with some time carved out for recreation.

theprint.in

 

[shade]

We have a lot of Christian in the armed forces both from NE and all over India. I wonder what they think of our posts like these.

Basic question yet again.
Is it a crime to be a Christian in India?
When talking about Christian radicalism we will hear whataboutism like "you Hindus are no better"

How will discourse ever be achieved?

Chrischun radicalism is limited to these slit-eyed unga bungas, and that to only specific ones like Nagas, Mizos and now these Cookies.
The tribes of Meghalaya are completely chill by comparison, and AP also has christian converts but haven't heard of any big insurgency there.

The proper Indian ones don't bother and instead want to emigrate to some goora paradise and make big bux and enjoy 1st world living and brag about it to their residing in India relatives.

Max you may see some protest chimpouts by gawwar chrischuns as during the one Adani Port in Kerala, however on "chat" with the Archbishop and chimpouts ceased so there's that


btw conversions back in the day and today also by foreigners are for the sole purpose of creating a 5th column by adding the ghee of religion to the small bonfire of ethnic hatred/resentment

 

[Eagle Eye]

"I will not share a stage with PM Modi, when he comes for election campaign"- Bjp ally Mizoram CM said.

It is "gift" for Modi, where his Govt/party kept mum on-Where Mizoram CM & Church leaders welcomed 40,000 illegal migrants from Myanmar at border.

 

[tomthounaojam]

A major spike in Drug trafficking via Mizoram.
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Some footage of police commando doing patrol in Moreh, a very sensitive border town with Myanmar.

 

[Butter Chicken]

9 Kuki militants who fled to Myanmar after Indian security forces launched ops, have been killed in encounters with Myanmar Army: Report.

 

[Blademaster]

9 Kuki militants who fled to Myanmar after Indian security forces launched ops, have been killed in encounters with Myanmar Army: Report.

Fucking A. Kill them all. I have no fucking mercy for these fuckers.

 

[Freedom Thru Firepower]

9 Kuki militants who fled to Myanmar after Indian security forces launched ops, have been killed in encounters with Myanmar Army: Report.

So, we are colluding with Tatmadaw to wipe out terrorist scums & their enablers ?
If yes, then it is a good start. Enough with burgerchod & their piglets randocratic & chooran rights antics.

 

[tomthounaojam]

Central armed police helping local farmers during paddy harvest. Thank you

 

[here2where]

The problem is we are still handling North eastern states under exception. Same thing we have done with Kashmir for last 70+ years until we removed 370 and make them understand it is simply another state.

Similar scenario should be started to ingrain in Northeastern people mind that you are another state and u need to stand on your own.

When our "nation" was being created by combining disparate kingdoms, it was lethal not to have an ETA when they can all be assimilated and laws that "differentiate" them within the new country were to be thrown away.

We continue to re-define "union of kingdoms" and take them to newer heights.