North East Security Watch

[Cheran]

@tomthounaojam what's happening?

Looks like meeting with Mizoram CM did not go well.

Mizo CM's public statements on border & it;s fencing's were also not taken lightly.

 

[Jimih]

Looks like meeting with Mizoram CM did not go well.

Mizo CM's public statements on border & it;s fencing's were also not taken lightly.

Carrot and Stick.

Accept ST status for Meiteis or you will lose yours too.

 

[Azaad]

@tomthounaojam what's happening?

Smart move . Kukis screwed up the Meiteis's chances to be included in the ST list . The Meiteis paying back in kind . The Centre can always claim to be even handed especially since the Meiteis were a part of the ST list around independence when they were delisted. Same principle applies to the Kukis .

I'm waiting for some smart Kuki organization to ask for delisting of the the Nagas from the ST list once the brouhaha over this issue dies down possibly with the least amount of blood spilt.

Further this is also a warning to other tribal groups in the NE not to phuck around too much especially the new CM in Mizoram who seems to be another Sheikh Abdullah in the making with plenty of knowledge on how to work the system having been part of it , except age isn't on his side .

With practically all the insurgencies having died out in the NE , what with the ULFA being among the last notable secessionist group to smoke the peace pipe with the GoI , that leaves whichever group who wishes to take up arms against the state invite the undivided attention of the armed forces of the Indian state.

This then is a classic case of fighting fire with fire . Expect fireworks .

 

[Blademaster]

We need to make sure that the GoI do not give out any mercy to any of the kukis or those who would dare to defy the sovereignty of India. Furthermore, GoI need to crack down on these Christian missionaries especially the foreign ones and teach them a lesson that they will never forget.

 

[Sanglamorre]

Now squealing

Bruh what timeline we live in

Members here were right, instead of going full Imphal Bombing on them, govt tightened the screws the right way

 

[tomthounaojam]

@tomthounaojam what's happening?

I am also thounaojam, he is actively campaigning for a seat in the upcoming LS elections, seems to be strategically focusing on Kuki issues. Specifically, he questions the rationale behind granting tribal status to the Kuki community, considering them non-natives to India. He argues that it is unjust when native populations are not afforded similar privileges. This perspective sheds light on the intricate dynamics surrounding the allocation of tribal status.

As someone belonging to the general category, I personally advocate for a reservation-free India, devoid of categorizations based on caste, religion, or race. These, in my view, contribute significantly to the country's backwardness. The existing reservation system, I argue, is a hindrance to progress. Political parties, utilizing it as a potent vote bank strategy, are unlikely to address this issue as it is their Ace cards.

In essence, I did call for a reevaluation of Manipur's reservation system. They envision a society where distinctions based on caste, religion, and race are eliminated, fostering a more merit-based approach for the advancement and unity of the nation.

 

[tomthounaojam]

We need to make sure that the GoI do not give out any mercy to any of the kukis or those who would dare to defy the sovereignty of India. Furthermore, GoI need to crack down on these Christian missionaries especially the foreign ones and teach them a lesson that they will never forget.

Kuki are being hunted down in Bangladesh and Myanmar, we are just too soft on them

 

[Blademaster]

Kuki are being hunted down in Bangladesh and Myanmar, we are just too soft on them

a legacy of Gandhian adherents and the Ludellite elites.

 

[shade]

a legacy of Gandhian adherents and the Ludellite elites.

Nope, they were good boy voters of Bhajipao and didn't show any symptoms
Bhajipao being stupid didn't get the signal when they started taking in large amounts of jaat bhais and bahins coming from Burma.

Now what we have is Cookie-Chin-Zo biraderhood wanting to acquire the Imphal valley as extra lebensraum and also get the Burmese bits, Mizoram state to make their fantasy unga bunga superstate.

Same chooran and bait which the Kurds have been fed by US and other beneficiaries to them chimping out in ~5 ME countries for jaat-bhai lub.

Kurds were converted to the commie religion and these ungabungas were converted to christianity for this purpose

 

[Azaad]

Your position and ours are same on Myanmar border fencing: Y Patton tells Mizoram CM - Nagaland Tribune

Aizawl: Patton, Lalduhoma discuss development activities in NE, bilateral cooperation

nagalandtribune.in

 

[shade]

Your position and ours are same on Myanmar border fencing: Y Patton tells Mizoram CM - Nagaland Tribune

Aizawl: Patton, Lalduhoma discuss development activities in NE, bilateral cooperation

nagalandtribune.in

HOW DARE YOU INDIANS STOP MY JAAT BHAIS FROM CROSSING OVER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
BORDERS MADE BY YOU NOT US!!!!!

 

[Cheran]

Your position and ours are same on Myanmar border fencing: Y Patton tells Mizoram CM - Nagaland Tribune

Aizawl: Patton, Lalduhoma discuss development activities in NE, bilateral cooperation

nagalandtribune.in

So Mizo CM is trying to shore up some support.

So this border fencing will put Kuki+Naga opposed to Meiteis.

 

[Jimih]

So Mizo CM is trying to shore up some support.

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So this border fencing will put Kuki+Naga opposed to Meiteis.

Doubt that Nagas will come in support of Kukis.

They have suffered enough in the hands of Kukis.

 

[shade]

So Mizo CM is trying to shore up some support.

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So this border fencing will put Kuki+Naga opposed to Meiteis.

Doubt that Nagas will come in support of Kukis.

They have suffered enough in the hands of Kukis.

Border fencing only for the one state where Jaat bhais from Burma are starting a secessionist/ethnic cleansing rebellion.
The other state can too join the border fencing and receive the beatings the Cookies will inevitably get if they too want to try their luck at rebellion.

Simple as.

 

[IndianSpiderman]

Glad the border fencing issue is getting the attention it deserves. I've been posting about it for years now. It's not just Mizoram, but also Meghalaya and WB which are vehemently opposed to border fencing (with both BD and Myanmar). Very little can be done on this without the states' consent since they're the ones who need to acquire land for it. Even if that were to happen tomorrow, both the Myanmar and BD borders can never be fully fenced due to the terrain of those tracts of land.

The hills of the eastern Manipur will remain badly governed for as long as they remain poorly connected to the rest of NE. For now, the forces should consider striking Kuki terror camps in Myanmar like they did to ULFA I two days ago.

Ulfa-I Claims Drones Dropped Three Bombs on Myanmar Camp, Two Cadres Injured | Guwahati News - Times of India

Ulfa-I claims that three bombs were dropped by drones on one of its camps in Myanmar, resulting in minor injuries to two of its cadres. The outfit alleges that the drone attack was carried out by Indian security forces.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

 

[tomthounaojam]

Doubt that Nagas will come in support of Kukis.

They have suffered enough in the hands of Kukis.

No one is a true friend here just vested interest, however, Naga have a sympathetic view toward Kuki as another fellow Christian and Tribe, but they also not Kuki can't befriend and trusted.

 

[Azaad]

So Mizo CM is trying to shore up some support.

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So this border fencing will put Kuki+Naga opposed to Meiteis.

Nope , the Nagas of Nagaland are a different lot from the ones in Manipur. The support for such a demand has been voiced by the Dy CM of Nagaland. We don't know the stand of the Naga tribes of Manipur in this matter.

 

[tomthounaojam]

Nope , the Nagas of Nagaland are a different lot from the ones in Manipur. The support for such a demand has been voiced by the Dy CM of Nagaland. We don't know the stand of the Naga tribes of Manipur in this matter.

For those unfamiliar with Naga, it is a collective term for various tribes, collectively known as the Naga people. This term was coined by the British, similar to how we Indians are now identified with multiple entities. For instance, Naga people from Nagaland(16 tribes) would refer to Manipur Naga as Kacha Naga, encompassing tribes such as Liangmei and Zeme. The head of NSCN-IM, Tangkhul, is a Manipuri by geography but identifies as Naga through their nomenclature, referring to themselves as Tangkhul

 

[shade]

For those unfamiliar with Naga, it is a collective term for various tribes, collectively known as the Naga people. This term was coined by the British, similar to how we Indians are now identified with multiple entities. For instance, Naga people from Nagaland(16 tribes) would refer to Manipur Naga as Kacha Naga, encompassing tribes such as Liangmei and Zeme. The head of NSCN-IM, Tangkhul, is a Manipuri by geography but identifies as Naga through their nomenclature, referring to themselves as Tangkhul

Missionaries, not the Collector saheb as "British" may imply.
Also this collective term is a meme since their languages aren't mutually intelligible.

Get's the noggin joggin why would you make an artificial tribal grouping who also have a full state to their name

 

[Azaad]

For those unfamiliar with Naga, it is a collective term for various tribes, collectively known as the Naga people. This term was coined by the British, similar to how we Indians are now identified with multiple entities. For instance, Naga people from Nagaland(16 tribes) would refer to Manipur Naga as Kacha Naga, encompassing tribes such as Liangmei and Zeme. The head of NSCN-IM, Tangkhul, is a Manipuri by geography but identifies as Naga through their nomenclature, referring to themselves as Tangkhul

I'm aware of the distinctions between the various Naga groups / tribes as well as their political differences. I should've written - " a politically different lot from the ones in Manipur " for the ones opposing the signing of the PERMANENT peace accord after the Shillong accord in 1975-76 with the center on superficial grounds are Muivah of the Thangkul Naga tribe in Manipur & the Khaplang faction of the NSCN now known by a different name who's a Hemi Naga from Myanmar.

For the record there's been a great political schism between the Nagas of Nagaland & the NSCN ever since a group of Naga underground leaders including Phizo's brother signed the Shillong Peace Accord in 1975-76 ( arguably this should've ended the insurgency along with the formation of the Nagaland state in the early to mid 60s but it didn't , although support for the insurgency greatly came down among the Nagas after these 2 events) which the then NNC under Phizo's leadership neither criticized nor endorsed which in turn led Isak Chisi Swu, Thuingaleng Muivah & SS Khaplang - all Naga leaders from outside Nagaland to split from the NNC & form the NSCN which in turn further split in the late 80s between the Khaplang & IM factions .