Nag anti-tank Missile

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if successfully tested army will demand yet another silly modification before induction :mad:

drdo needs a weapons system that can cure the army procurement dept of the videshi maal sabse badiya complex
 

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next they namica to fly, pls stealth features.

Gyro stable electro optical payload is welcome. Hope it can be elevated as and when needed.
 
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wont be bad idea if one each of t90, t 72 & arjun is tested as target for nag to see how good is their protection against nag baby at 4 km.
 

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I just want to say keep it up and try to do some more in indigenous style.
 

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if successfully tested army will demand yet another silly modification before induction :mad:

drdo needs a weapons system that can cure the army procurement dept of the videshi maal sabse badiya complex
Do not you think The DODOs gives only assembled videshi maal ? Then why this affront of videshi maal?
You thing a PSU stamp makes any maal swadeshi ?? My foot !
 

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wont be bad idea if one each of t90, t 72 & arjun is tested as target for nag to see how good is their protection against nag baby at 4 km.
I agree with you. I also suggest that one or two Al Khalid be bought from Pakistan and placed at Mahajan to see how good is it ?

Koot....... Cool......
 

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But I do not understand why one needs a 40 Kg missile to destroy a tank ? TOW missile is maximum 22.6 kg. Hellfire though is 98 to 107 pounds (44.45 to 48.54 kilograms). But it is not vehicle launched.
 
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But I do not understand why one needs a 40 Kg missile to destroy a tank ?
Because killing a tank would not the only thing it would be doing. The large shaped charge warhead allows the missile to take out targets several inches behind reinforced concrete, enemy bunkers, or allow it to clear out 10-15 m radius area by carefully triggered detonation of charges in air burst mode. A man portable ATGM cannot do these tasks.

Edit: See how successfully Hellfire has been used as a precision weapon in Afghanistan and Brimstone in Libya.
 
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Do not you think The DODOs gives only assembled videshi maal ? Then why this affront of videshi maal?
You thing a PSU stamp makes any maal swadeshi ?? My foot !
why the childish attempt in calling DRDO as DODO? videshi products will always have kill features, in times of war they will be useless and DRDO is a research and development firm they don't assemble or manufacture anything. They transfer the tech to firms like OFB and BDL which manufacture the end products.
 

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first the missile has to travel 4 km to target, without giving away launch position, second it has to do top attack mode, which means that distance it will travel will be about 5-6 km to be effective at 4 km, third it has tandom warhead to take out ERA if enemy got any at the top of tank. All things part og GSQR. For top attack mode it has 4 additional motors which takes it higher.
 

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I am sure DGMF, would find ways and means to delay induction of nag into our army.
 

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why the childish attempt in calling DRDO as DODO? videshi products will always have kill features, in times of war they will be useless and DRDO is a research and development firm they don't assemble or manufacture anything. They transfer the tech to firms like OFB and BDL which manufacture the end products.
Because the people who know the working of DRDO know that how much foreign components are fitted in the products which go in for trials, while the claims are otherwise.
 

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Because the people who know the working of DRDO know that how much foreign components are fitted in the products which go in for trials, while the claims are otherwise.
you cant have 100% indigenisation of defence products, even kalam said so
 

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They transfer the tech to firms like OFB and BDL which manufacture the end products.
You understand the meaning of dodo?

Sorry, they transfers the source of import of foreign mal in their so called invention. BDL again only assembles it. The overall mal more than 80 per cent remains foreign. That is not a secret.

Price is also as good or at times higher than foreign mal. Efficiency is not as good.
While research and experiment may be good for country so is defence of India which can not be subjugated to DODO. It has to be based on the best weapons. Being indigenous is not the qualification for victory in war.
 

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let us leave it at that, just that all tall tales of indigenisation from DRDO are mostly tall tales..

Well Bhadra just laid the truth bare..
 

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first the missile has to travel 4 km to target, without giving away launch position, second it has to do top attack mode, which means that distance it will travel will be about 5-6 km to be effective at 4 km, third it has tandom warhead to take out ERA if enemy got any at the top of tank. All things part og GSQR. For top attack mode it has 4 additional motors which takes it higher.
That is a very rational answer. But tell me why tow has only 22.6 kg ?
 

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Javelin is also very effective on tanks, fire and forget as also top attack and is also manportable !

From Namica can one acquire a tank target 4.5 km away ? yes may be from hellicopters ?
 
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My Dear friends ,

out of about 8000 km of Indian border, your Namica can only be applied on about 2000 km. What about the rest of 6000 km? India does not have that many helicopters. Even if India has the weather on those border does not afford 24 X 7 flying.

You need missile on the shoulder of soldiers. Make that as that is the urgent necessity.
OK.
 

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You understand the meaning of dodo?

Sorry, they transfers the source of import of foreign mal in their so called invention. BDL again only assembles it. The overall mal more than 80 per cent remains foreign. That is not a secret.

Price is also as good or at times higher than foreign mal. Efficiency is not as good.
While research and experiment may be good for country so is defence of India which can not be subjugated to DODO. It has to be based on the best weapons. Being indigenous is not the qualification for victory in war.
nobody sells or give you technology, even the russian have withheld tech after promising to provide it

Broadsword: T-90 tank: Technology transfer, supply of assemblies hit Russian stonewall

India's purchase in 2001 of Russia's T-90S main battle tank (MBT) was touted as a world-class upgrade of our battlefield capabilities at a rock-bottom price. For Rs 3,625 crore, India would get 310 new tanks; a full transfer of technology (ToT) from Russia; and a licence to build 1000 tanks at the Heavy Vehicle Factory (HVF) in Avadi, Chennai.

A decade later, HVF has built just 150 T-90S tanks, hamstrung by Moscow's obstruction in transferring technology and the Russia-built assemblies needed even for the India-built tanks. With India's production line stymied, the MoD bought 347 more ready-built T-90S tanks in 2007, handing Russia another Rs 4,900 crore.

you can berate drdo all you want but it doesn't change the fact org's like drdo are needed for national defence and they are the bulwark against foreign aggression, the arms dealers sitting in delhi bribing babus and journalists will leave india by the first plane when war starts.
 

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Shape charge in air burst mode?
You think members of this forum are illiterate ?
Nope, only you, who thinks that missiles are designed to be fitted with only one warhead type and things like Blast Fragmentation Sleeve warhead do not exist.
 

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