Modernisation of Indian Army Infantry

[ManhattanProject]

Whether you like it or not, HAL cant deliver the LUH immediately. Do you want to wait till LUH reach production status. Let us start with what is available and reserve half of requirement for indigenous product.

so you think the russian helicopter's production line can be set up in a few days here in india?

 

[Motabhai]

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

'Modernisation'

Why didn't we go for LUHs?

So a production rate of 25 helos/year. Thats lesser than the production rate of 30 LUH/year for what is merely kit assembling and also occupying one of HAL's assembly line at Tumkur which could have been better utlilized to increase LUH production rate to 60 LUH/year.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

Whether you like it or not, HAL cant deliver the LUH immediately. Do you want to wait till LUH reach production status. Let us start with what is available and reserve half of requirement for indigenous product.

The first Ka-226T will be delivered 36 months after the deal is signed.
Similar timeline applies to LUH also.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Can hal deliver the helos on time .
Lca should be a remainder for people who think , it can achieve desired level of production.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

Can hal deliver the helos on time .
Lca should be a remainder for people who think , it can achieve desired level of production.

HAL rotary wing division is far more successful than its fixed wing division.
ALH Dhruv and Rudra are shining examples of HAL success in rotary wing department with 300 and 70 helicopters produced respectively till date.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

so you think the russian helicopter's production line can be set up in a few days here in india?

The Kamov Ka-226 would actually be using HAL production facility at Tumkur which could rather be used in doubling the production rate of LUH to 60 helos/year

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

HAL rotary wing division is far more successful than its fixed wing division.
ALH Dhruv and Rudra are shining examples of HAL success in rotary wing department with 300 and 70 helicopters produced respectively till date.

I apologise ,I forgot dhruv iam not being sarcastic .
Dhruv assembly line can make luh with ease .

 

[Unknowncommando 2]

Infantrymen
From Left SIG SAUER 716i Battle Rifle (7.62×51mm)
Brugger & Thomet MP9 Machine Pistol (9×19mm) + Zeiss Sight + Laser - IR Flashlight Combo
OFB Bren Light Machine Gun (7.62×51mm)

Bottom
OFB RL MK-III Carl Gustaf (84mm)

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Infantrymen
From Left SIG SAUER 716i Battle Rifle (7.62×51mm)
Brugger & Thomet MP9 Machine Pistol (9×19mm) + Zeiss Sight + Laser - IR Flashlight Combo
OFB Bren Light Machine Gun (7.62×51mm)

Bottom
OFB RL MK-III Carl Gustaf (84mm)

MP9 along LOC while patrolling. Isn't that new?

 

[ManhattanProject]

MP9 along LOC while patrolling. Isn't that new?

i dont know what he is going to hit with a 9mm over vast distances in the LAC.

 

[kr9]

i dont know what he is going to hit with a 9mm over vast distances in the LAC.

It is probably his PDW. I think his primary is the Carl Gustav on the ground.

 

[ManhattanProject]

It is probably his PDW. I think his primary is the Carl Gustav on the ground.

makes sense.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

It is probably his PDW. I think his primary is the Carl Gustav on the ground.

Don't think that's true.

 

[kr9]

Don't think that's true.
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Ohh.. OK. I was wrong.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

It definitely is. No other troop in the photos has the ability to carry a full blown rifle and a CG at the same time along with the ammunition, its simply impossible. He's the only one carrying an MP9 amongst them all too, and it's a common loadout for troops to pack a PDW when they're carrying a CG.

The man with the MP9 is most probably the section commander. The man with the CG isn't carrying any other weapon (at least not visible). You can refer to the video for more details.

 

[Killbot]

God their recoil control is atrocious. How many Yudh Abhyas and Vajra Prahaars will it take before the infantry can actually learn to shoot a gun?? Even 7.62x51mm gun shouldn't be reaching for the skies like that!!!

They're holding the damn thing like an AK. What do you expect.

 

[jik60]

God their recoil control is atrocious. How many Yudh Abhyas and Vajra Prahaars will it take before the infantry can actually learn to shoot a gun?? Even 7.62x51mm gun shouldn't be reaching for the skies like that!!!

What a loathing statement. If there were dislike buttons i would have disliked it 10000 times.
Blatant show of abhorrence towards the poor Indian soldiers efforts and their skills.

So I would like to ask such abstract expert how do they measure the recoil handling,, any instrumentation to measure the force or mere from a visual inspection from a YouTube vid???? How??? Such are the ingenuity of such imaginary, good for nothing expert.

These chap's famous intellect shield is "experience on surfing on def forums " or "reading SF magazines" or some fantasy tales.

@LETHALFORCE @ezsasa @Indx TechStyle @LurkerBaba @Shaitan @hit&run

Mods this is how the quality of discussion deteriorate if certain trends are allowed to have a free run like deliberate besmirching.

Its now a frequent pattern in many IA forums to sully the capability, ability or tactics of common IA soldiers by dudes with vast experience in keyboardtyping, who got no real time expertise or are part of any active service.

IA had fought 5 wars and won 4 out of them with own innovation and tactics. So these NATO lapdogs of United States, who can not even win over in-house terrorists and cartels alone should refrain themselves of looking down Indian soldiers.

One can understand the call down of gens, Burocrats and minister as they are answerable but these wicked shenanigans should come to an end.

Any critical discussion should be construct by keeping in mind that indian conditions, doctrine for usage of any military hardware differs from rest of the world l, nomatter how funny it looks to others.

So MODs please try to bring in the moderation into this matter, otherwise it won't be much different than the Indian Marxist liberal's teaching to make every Indian to look down on their indianess.

 

[Marliii]

What a loathing statement. If there were dislike buttons i would have disliked it 10000 times.
Blatant show of abhorrence towards the poor Indian soldiers efforts and their skills.

So I would like to ask such abstract expert how do they measure the recoil handling,, any instrumentation to measure the force or mere from a visual inspection from a YouTube vid???? How??? Such are the ingenuity of such imaginary, good for nothing expert.

These chap's famous intellect shield is "experience on surfing on def forums " or "reading SF magazines" or some fantasy tales.

@LETHALFORCE @ezsasa @Indx TechStyle @LurkerBaba @Shaitan @hit&run

Mods this is how the quality of discussion deteriorate if certain trends are allowed to have a free run like deliberate besmirching.

Its now a frequent pattern in many IA forums to sully the capability, ability or tactics of common IA soldiers by dudes with vast experience in keyboardtyping, who got no real time expertise or are part of any active service.

IA had fought 5 wars and won 4 out of them with own innovation and tactics. So these NATO lapdogs of United States, who can not even win over in-house terrorists and cartels alone should refrain themselves of looking down Indian soldiers.

One can understand the call down of gens, Burocrats and minister as they are answerable but these wicked shenanigans should come to an end.

Any critical discussion should be construct by keeping in mind that indian conditions, doctrine for usage of any military hardware differs from rest of the world l, nomatter how funny it looks to others.

So MODs please try to bring in the moderation into this matter, otherwise it won't be much different than the Indian Marxist liberal's teaching to make every Indian to look down on their indianess.

he was just saying they are holding the rifles just like an ak.there is no need fir you to fume like a volcano.recoil control is the thing that seperates militia members and soldiers.the problem is that soldiers will take some time to adjust to the new rifle.Indian army has won 4 wars but no army on earth can fight the vietcongs or holed up terrrorists and completely win.so don't be stupid and take criticism creatively

 

[Marliii]

Some guys just don't take criticism seriously.they call us US lapdogs when we try and just point a normal thing.the soldiers had experience in insas and ak that's why they shoot like that.