Modernisation of Indian Army Infantry

[Blood+]

Well the Pakis are showing more proactiveness in this case atleast.They are standarising on their customised version of pixelated multicam,IA top brass and MoD should take a notice immidiately.

 

[Immanuel]

I think the best for future camo stems from Barrcuda

Warrior Suit

I think during peace time, we can have well designed multicam but during wartime, time for a warrior suit, i think with advances in IR tech and eventually our enemies deploying better night vision and IR detection tech, we need better signature mgt.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Also 3 soldiers are wearing spectacles, isn't good eyesight one of the essential requirement of any military except for the ones were its mandatory to join for every citizen like Israel.

Good eyesight is a requirement, 20/20 not required for US Army as far as I know if glasses can correct to 20/20.

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

indian army needs urgent camo upgrade.sometimes ago i heard in a news channel that indian army camo is available in black market in srinagar and is very cheap.no wonder militants dressed in army uniform are inflicting casulaties in terror attacks in kashmir.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

A Para commando, doing his exercise, point to be noted he is wearing MARPAT T-shirt which probably the same what CRPF Cobra are using, More importantly such camo are under production in India ..

 

[Shaitan]

For providing its personnel protection against the lethal bullets of rifles such as AK-47, the Indian Army has issued tenders to procure around two lakh bullet-proof jackets and helmets for its troops deployed in counter-insurgency operations.

The two tenders were issued last year under Army's modernisation programme of its Infantry soldiers known as the Future-Infantry Soldier as a System (F-INSAS) under which it will acquire 1,86,168 bulletproof jackets for its personnel along with ballistic helmets with internal communication gear.

"We have participated in both the tenders to supply these bullet-proof jackets and ballistic helmets with internal communication facilities," Indian firm MKU's Managing Director Neeraj Gupta said here.

He said his firm has responded to the bids issued by the Army under the category in which only six Indian vendors have been allowed to compete.

Gupta said after acquiring a German manufacturing facility, his firm has supplied protective gear to more than 100 international forces and they have been used by them in conflict zones such as Iraq and Afghanistan.

As per the Army's requirement, it wants jackets with hard armour plates for front, rear, sides, upper arms, groin and throat, capable of protecting against 7.62mm x 39mm mild steel core ammunition fired from an AK-47 from 10 metres.

The Army is deployed in counter-insurgency operations for several decades in North East and Jammu and Kashmir and has been facing shortage of these protective gear as pointed out by the Comptroller and Auditor General in its recent report.

Gupta said his firm is looking towards providing armoured protection to military helicopters that operate in insurgent and terrorist-infested areas in the country.

Army Looking for Gear to Protect Troops From AK-47 Bullets - The New Indian Express

MKU is one of the Indian companies competing.


About MKU Pvt. Ltd.

MKU Pvt. Ltd. is one of the world's leading manufacturer and suppliers of personal and platform ballistic protection solutions with a direct presence in over 70 countries around the world.

MKU uses the best quality materials and has introduced various innovative products and solutions as a result of its R&D efforts in which it has invested heavily. MKU's infrastructure spans 3 state of art factories in India and Germany.

MKU has spent the last 25 years building up a broad product portfolio that includes ballistic vests, ballistic helmets and other personal protection products for military and security forces as well as Platform armouring solutions for aircrafts, land vehicles, naval vessels and static structures.
It is in the process of setting up one of the most modern facilities for the manufacture of Night Vision Devices and Day sights.

MKU is a registered NATO supplier, and all its manufacturing facilities are certified to ISO 9001:2008, AS 9100 & ISO 14000 standards. It is the only company in India with AS 9100 certification for aircraft armouring & solutions.

 

[JBH22]

All Protection - Helmets "Kolpak"

Personally I prefer the Russian helmet Kolpak provides protection to the ear etc.

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

 

[Shaitan]

This too.

Produced by BEL.

 

[Kyubi]

This too.

Produced by BEL.

Why is that the tactical computer and the laptop have Windows Xp, why isn't BOSS ( Bharat Operating System) being used..???? I presume BOSS can be configured for military use ..... and if so i dont see why we should not utilise it FINSAS

 

[Twinblade]

Why is that the tactical computer and the laptop have Windows Xp, why isn't BOSS ( Bharat Operating System) being used..???? I presume BOSS can be configured for military use ..... and if so i dont see why we should not utilise it FINSAS

BOSS is old news, there is a new Indian military linux distro coming out, being tailored by DRDO.

 

[Twinblade]

F-INSAS or the Futuristic Infantry Solider as a System is the Indian Army's programme designed to modernise the infantry. It aims at efficient application of military technology to provide the soldier the wherewithal to operate across the full spectrum of conflict. To be implemented over the next three Five Year plans, the programme is to be completed in phases, starting with limited technology trials by 2017, a pilot project to equip up to a dozen infantry battalions by 2020. The remainder 350 odd battalions are planned to be upgraded by 2025 and full integration into a net centric warfare mode by 2027.

Complete modernisation of the infantry is still a pipe dream

 

[Kunal Biswas]

It wont happen, Some want it should look cool, Some want it should be practical, Some want it should be lighter, Some want it should be hitech, Some want it should cheaper and economical, Some want it to be super rugged, People in forces have forgotten what really a Rifle man needs at present ..

1. Get him a decent protection from fire, Bullet & Weather so does a proper camo ..
2. Get him a decent Rifle which carry more ammo and weight lesser so does ability to mount various scopes ..
3. Get him a decent communication system with a rugged MFD ..
4. Get him training on new tactics develop based on these technologies .

That is all need ..

 

[sayareakd]

Kunal sir is right when the rifleman should have simple system to work with. Soldiers are 10th pass so it should be simple enough like mobile or else more time will be taken by the system and it will give him little time to aim and fire his rifle.

plus communication in english language might be problem. Typing in hindi is even more difficult

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Put a HMD on face, That face is probably get a back of rifle butt in close quarter combat, If a person in combat is focus on anything is on his gun sights not incoming data beeps And many more such things ..

 

[sayareakd]

@Kunal Biswas sir check this out


this could be used in FINSAS to charge the computer system and radio.

 

[AVERAGE INDIAN]

Defence personnel will soon get 'ballistic protection' from Gujarat, as the Forensic Science Laboratory (FSL) here will be conducting tests for bullet-proof jackets and head gears used by the Indian Army.
Defence personnel will soon get 'ballistic protection' from Gujarat, as the Forensic Science Laboratory (FSL) here will be conducting tests for bullet-proof jackets and head gears used by the Indian Army.

"Gujarat FSL will soon tie-up with the Indian Army by signing an MoU to conduct ballistic tests for their armour like bullet-proof jackets head-gears," Director of Gujarat Forensic Science Laboratory (FSL) J M Vyas told PTI.

Earlier, Gujarat FSL had tested hard and soft armour panels, bullet-proof jackets and helmets produced by a US-based multinational company which are being used by armies and police organisations across the globe. Vyas believes that Indian Army has put trust on Gujarat FSL considering the transparency and cost-effective testing here.

"When we conduct any ballistic tests here, it is always displayed to the client and seller through our transparent range made with bullet-proof glass. This has helped the Indian Army to invest trust in us," Vyas said.

Earlier the Indian Army had conducted ballistic tests for their bullet-proof jackets and head-gears at a Chandigarh-based Forensic Science Laboratory, Vyas added. The ballistic tests for bullet proof jackets and head gears will cost the country's army around Rs 15,000 per unit which is very reasonable compared to the international rates, Vyas said.

If the tests are conducted at any foreign country, then the cost may run into crores of rupees, he said.

According to highly-placed sources in Gujarat FSL, some of the Delhi-based army officials also visited the FSL here and its ballistic range .

The FSL's Ballistic Research Centre will also provide ballistic tests for Indian Army's armoured vehicles, the sources said. The Ballistic Research Centre is under construction at present and will start functioning in the coming month after which the FSL will conduct tests for the armoured vehicles, they added.

Indian Army to test their armour in Gujarat FSL - IBNLive

 

[Ky Loung]

Is this jacket or plate? If it jacket than I assume it is Kevlar. Kevlar does not protect from rifle caliber. Kevlar only protect from pistol and low velocity shrapnel. Plates will protect from rifle bullet depending on the level of protection. However they weight between 20 to 40 lbs depending on the level of protection. Basically almost half of the weight a US military personnel carry is due to the body armor.

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[AVERAGE INDIAN]

Is this jacket or plate?

"Gujarat FSL will soon tie-up with the Indian Army by signing an MoU to conduct ballistic tests for their armour like bullet-proof jackets head-gears," Director of Gujarat Forensic Science Laboratory (FSL) J M Vyas told PTI.

 

[Ky Loung]

I'm asking because there might be different terminology involved. There are two type of personal body armor, soft (Kevlar, etc) and hard (plate). Western militaries use both but the R&D money goes to plate armor. So that's where the confusion came from.

Soft body armor is only good for pistol and shotgun calibers. Plate armor will protect the wearer from pistol, shotgun, and rifle caliber. Let assume jacket mean soft body armor.

In the USA all police officers have to wear soft body armor. Soft body armor have been around of 100 years now. Soft body armor R&D is mainly funded by civilian companies. While the weight is noticeable it can be worn all day long without much discomfort. Soft body armor is the main reason why sub-guns became obsolete. Normal pistol calibers cannot defeat them. Sub-gun replaced by PDW that chamber rifle calibers is design to bypass the protection. Soft body armor is pretty much useless in regard to military personal body armor usage.

Western military spend a lot of money trying to improve (make them lighter with greater protection) plate armor. They don't waste their time and money on soft body armor development. A standard military armor package is a chest rig which can double as a soft body armor. Chest rig is made out of Kevlar (or the plate is protected by Kevlar) and have two pouch (front and back) to insert the plate armor. So what you have is soft and hard body armor in one package. Giving the wearer maximum protection.

https://www.google.com/search?q=kev...la:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb

Unless the jacket body armor is design as a chest rig that will allow plate armor, it is pretty much a waste of money. In fact I wouldn't wear it. It add weight and give basically no protection in a military fire fight. You're better off adding two or four magazines than wearing the jacket soft body armor.

Weight is the main issue for plated armor. It really really heavy and uncomfortable. Like I posted it can weight up to 40lbs (helmet + Chest Rig + Plate). All muscle and no fat else it will break you in half.