Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

[Damian]

Or internal volume drivers site, and hull ammo is just slighty smaller then 2x fuel tanks + driver seat in M1 and in that case all will be corect.

ps. Yours fight against this 70mm in Leo2A4 frontal hull sides is rather pointless

I highly doubt that. Because I made the same mistake in the past that You are making now.

And no, my fight is not pointless. It is a mather of fighting for truth, to end this foolness with Germans making good or best AFV's myth.

@Damian you are smart guy, that is show piece they got on Arjun tank.

Dunno, I would need to check it on my own to be 100% sure.

 

[sayareakd]

Dunno, I would need to check it on my own to be 100% sure.

see you certified without looking at it. :thumb:

 

[Damian]

see you certified without looking at it.

My opinion is still the same, it's not armor. If I will have opportunity to check it closer and it will be armor then I will change my opinion, facts are facts. But right now, from what I see, this plate is not armor, rather a part of muflap/mudguard.

 

[sayareakd]

BTW a smart monkey IITian might prove you wrong, i will ask him to comment on your post.

 

[Damian]

BTW a smart monkey IITian might prove you wrong, i will ask him to comment on your post.

It's simple, there is a 140mm heavy ballistic skirt, and then air gap, but from the front there is a part of mudguard that looks like armor. On one of photos it is deformed slightly near the edge. Armor plates don't deform that way when hiting trees, rocks, concrete etc. Especially not something that is claimed to be 70-80mm thick! Even 20mm thick armor plate would not deform this way.



Slight deformation visible.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Its not deform but angle of the camera and light..

 

[Damian]

Its not deform but angle of the camera and light..

Actually there is slight deformation. But if You have photo from the bottom view point, showing it is a solid plate, I will change my mind.

 

[sayareakd]

kunal sir that arjun tank in the pic was inducted in 2008.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Slight deformation visible.

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Will get you bottom view around 2014..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

kunal sir that arjun tank in the pic was inducted in 2008.

Very Possible Sir..

 

[p2prada]

Don't look like armour to me and that little portion is deformed, pic shows more.

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[Damian]

Yeah, this shows clearly that it is deformed, like it would be hit by something.

It clearly behave like thin sheet metal, not thick, dense armor plate.

Besides this photo shows more interesting details.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Yeah, this shows clearly that it is deformed, like it would be hit by something.

It clearly behave like thin sheet metal, not thick, dense armor plate.

Besides this photo shows more interesting details.

That is not Deformed, It looks like that only..

 

[p2prada]

That is not Deformed, It looks like that only..

Just trace the edges to the back of the tank. The entire thing is sheet metal. Check pic in #2551.

 

[p2prada]

Besides this photo shows more interesting details.

Yeah. This version of the tank has a much smaller side armour and more storage boxes. Must be an early prototype.

 

[Damian]

@Kunal

It is deformed, You want to try to fight with reality clearly visible on photo? Good luck with that.

Yeah. This version of the tank has a much smaller side armour and more storage boxes. Must be an early prototype.

@P2P IMHO turret is same as on production vehicles, however storage boxes are different type.

 

[militarysta]

This deformed first side skirts pannel is nothing more then first and mobile cover under track -it have moving capability like most of the first pannels over tracks in most of the MBTs... So yes it could be deformated becouse it's made by thin sheet metal, but it is part of frontal track protection! side protection is diffrent part and looks more solid (heavy) and looks like realy normal protection:

pic.in prepering

 

[Damian]

It's simple. 1st layer is heavy ballistic skirt, then there is some sort of thin sheet metal, that probably acts as mudguard extension.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

@Kunal

It is deformed, You want to try to fight with reality clearly visible on photo? Good luck with that.

Good luck you too..

 

[Damian]

Good luck you too..

I really don't understand why You don't admitt that what we see on the photo is thin sheet metal? We don't say that there is no protection over this place, belive me 140mm thick heavy ballistic skirt + air gap + basic side hull armor is protection sufficent enought for safe manouvering angles protection (60 degrees frontal arc), and nothing more is required.

In this case Arjun represent the same standard as many other MBT's.