LOC, LAC & International Border skirmishs

[airtel]

The date will always be the proof that I uploaded it first at YouTube.

They will share it on facebook, twitter etc. And do propegenda just like they created that fake news of Chinese attack on India.

At least mention that it was an Indian attack on paki posts.

 

[prasadr14]

show some respect towards the jawans who have been martyred. not even single tweet thanking them for their sacrifice. this is the problem in India, no respect for those who have given their all for the country. if these many soldiers had died in the US, revenge would have been taken long time ago. indian government and bureaucracy are not willing to ever take concrete steps. remove article 370 as a morale booster for jawans. its not about stopping the killing of jawans. in war, there will always be casualties, but the greatest casualty is being forgotten by your own government. its time to act now. you have the president, and enough votes in rajya sabha with other nationalist parties to make a concrete decision towards kashmir's future. enough photo-ops, its time to act decisively.

Give your fake outrage a rest.
If you want to respect our jawans, stop making false comparisons or go and fight along side them.

Scoring political points by asking govt to stop it's administrative duties by linking it to jawans death shows who is the one disrespecting our jawans.

 

[IndiaRising]

Give your fake outrage a rest.
If you want to respect our jawans, stop making false comparisons or go and fight along side them.

Scoring political points by asking govt to stop it's administrative duties by linking it to jawans death shows who is the one disrespecting our jawans.

fake outrage? when the relative of a jawan who just died yesterday sees the two most important political authorities in the country laughing on TV and not even expressing condolences, do you know what kind of emotions they go through? you don't.

what political points? i have always been a fervent modi supporter, but at no cost will I support any politician over the jawan. if you fall under that category, thats on you. government also has an administrative duty towards resolving the kashmir problem. don't expect jawans to die on the border if you piss in your pants when it comes time to making a tough decision.

 

[Bornubus]

ID this unusual Paki mortar:

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Doesn't look like Mortar but RCL which Pak has in service on their LoC posts

SPG 9 and M 40 both in service with Pak

 

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read this blogpost, it gives a good insight into how article 370 can be repealed. pay special attention to this line,

(The Second Proviso states that no amendment shall have an effect on J&K unless it is applied to J&K by a Presidential Order under Article 370(1).

It is important to note that if the objective of the Second Proviso was to prevent a straight-forward abolition of Article 370 by amendment of the Indian Constitution through Article 368, such a critical objective would have found direct and express mention. Instead, all that the Proviso states, is that any amendment made to the Indian Constitution shall apply to J&K only pursuant to a Presidential Order. The absence of any express requirement of consent from the J&K State Legislature is stark and prominent.

Further, it could be argued that an amendment of the Indian Constitution to abolish Article 370, at best, falls under the first Proviso to Article 370(1)(d) which deals with the matters specified in the Instrument of Accession. The said Proviso requires mere “consultation” with the Government of J&K, and not its “concurrence”. Therefore, it could be argued that the Indian Parliament could invoke its constituent powers under Article 368(1) to abolish Article 370, which could then be brought into force by the President of India through an Order, after “consulting” the J&K Government.)

in my opinion, Modi did not trust mukherjee to make such a big decision. he needed a loyal soldier for that and he found one in kovind. now he has no excuses left. he has to remove article 370.

source: http://centreright.in/2014/05/can-a...gh-a-constitutional-amendment-2/#.WXQtRmXBRFI

mahbooba mufti would have to first agree to it.....them only 370 can be abolish.....

will she ?

 

[IndiaRising]

mahbooba mufti would have to first agree to it.....them only 370 can be abolish.....

will she ?

no she wouldn't. President only needs to "consult" the J&K government. he/she doesn't need its "concurrence". chai pila do mufti kon and then go ahead with your decision

 

[Mikesingh]

Chinese youth don't care about India tiff

Beijing:
TNN
Chinese youth are largely ignoring calls by a hawkish section of the official media to “teach India a lesson“ over the Doklam standoff. A large section is even ignorant of such a border problem because it pays little attention to official media.

This is evident from the insignificant amount of discussions on Chinese social media about the issue. The issue did not figure among the top 50 trending topics on Saturday on Sina Weibo, the Chinese version of Twitter, which has over 340 million users in China.

There are signs that attempts made by a section of the media to whip up passions against India have not succeeded. They have not succeeded because there is no history of animosity among ordinary Chinese towards India. China's ultranationalists had managed to arouse a lot of passion against Japan during the 2012 territorial dispute because the two countries have been at loggerheads through much of history .

Even the top echelons of the Communist Party seem to have refrained from using the social media to instill anti-India sentiment. Comments about the China-India border problem have been few and far between. One researcher who scrutinized Weibo posts told TNN that postings and repostings (retweets) do not exceed a few thousand. This is minuscule compared to the fact that the top trending topic on Saturday had 896,592 followers. The 50th and the last in the list had 39,039 followers.

China has a huge tribe of people called the “50 cent party“ who tend to manipulate the social media by posting millions of comments favoring the viewpoint of the government and the Communist Party , according to research conducted by several think tanks and western universities.

“I think the “50 cent party“ has not yet been asked to paint India as an aggressor on the border. The government may not be yet ready to do that because it is very difficult to improve the relationship with a country which has been widely defamed in the eyes of the ordinary people,“ a Chinese researcher said while requesting anonymity .

On the other hand, a section of the government backed media including the Beijing based Global Times and more than a dozen experts working with government backed think tanks have been busy finding faults with India not just about the border standoff but over a range of issues including poverty .

Most Chinese youths are active on social media and nearly 70 percent of Weibo's users are believed to be people below the age of 30. Young people are also very active users compared to the older users. But they seem to be too involved with domestic issues to be bothered about angry nationalistic sentiments.

http://epaperbeta.timesofindia.com/...uth-dont-care-about-India-tiff-23072017001048

Lol! That's a huge slap on the face of the Chinese tabloids especially that rag called Global Times which is peddling the hawkish lines of some ultranationalists in China. The wise ones well know that a war with India would be disastrous for their economy which they've assiduously built over the decades, as well as Chinese society.

I hope they cease their laughable rants and behave in a more matured fashion if they want to be seen as an emerging super power and not as aggressive rabble rousers (which incidentally they are!)

 

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no she wouldn't. President only needs to "consult" the J&K government. he/she doesn't need its "concurrence". chai pila do mufti kon and then go ahead with your decision

without her approvel ?

she will resgn the next day !!

 

[IndiaRising]

without her approvel ?

she will resgn the next day !!

then just amend the constitution. congress is on its last legs, they cannot afford to be seen against the army. make it a nationalistic issue, not one single party except for anti-national CPI and CPI-M will oppose this.

 

[mavles ihctep]

modi is neither a good administrator nor a chanakyan. His only plus is he had clean image (corruption wise) and massive propaganda by his bhakts.

Otherwise Manmohan Singh is better administrator and decision maker than modi.

Can anyone list out the any significant changes brougt out by modi in last 3 years

 

[Akshay Fenix]

modi is neither a good administrator nor a chanakyan. His only plus is he had clean image (corruption wise) and massive propaganda by his bhakts.

Otherwise Manmohan Singh is better administrator and decision maker than modi.

Can anyone list out the any significant changes brougt out by modi in last 3 years

Can you take your politics some place else.

 

[square]

modi is neither a good administrator nor a chanakyan. His only plus is he had clean image (corruption wise) and massive propaganda by his bhakts.

Otherwise Manmohan Singh is better administrator and decision maker than modi.

Can anyone list out the any significant changes brougt out by modi in last 3 years

the difference is in the policy making.......

 

[Indian Sniper.001]

jawans are dying at border and modi is holding farewell dinner for President. not cool. i say this as a modi supporter. take a decision on article 370 NOW

He has been silent on this issue for 4 weeks and has carried on his day-to-day stuff, not cool? The best medicine for Chini propaganda is ignorance, and he is giving them in large doses, that's the reason they are crapping from their mouth everyday.
Coming to your other suggestion on Art. 370, thank God he is the PM and not us 'Armchair defence and strategic experts'. Anything done in haste and emotional based immediate decisions falter in long term, he is laying groundwork for that, sit back and relax.

 

[mavles ihctep]

Another thing is we r giving too much attention to Kashmir problem.If you compare this with other problems we r facing its very insignificant. Kashmir terrorists r low grade terrorists they can't do anything significant to damage indian forces in valley.Also our army's active patrolling of LoC vastly reduced paki terrorists in valley.

Put Kashmir problem in cold storage. Dont give them any attention. If you look at casualties of army since 2004 in valley its comparable to peacetime casualties. Focus the attention towards economy.

 

[Indian Sniper.001]

modi is neither a good administrator nor a chanakyan. His only plus is he had clean image (corruption wise) and massive propaganda by his bhakts.

Otherwise Manmohan Singh is better administrator and decision maker than modi.

Can anyone list out the any significant changes brougt out by modi in last 3 years

Ugh, seriously? Propaganda on social media doesn't win elections which are held on ground. Ask a Jawan on ground, how he was treated during the CONgress days, he didn't even get the permission to retaliate when shot upon. And get the damn politics out of this thread, anyways you don't have a bloody grip on what's going on, and this is not the right place to push your agenda.

 

[Butter Chicken]

1 Jihadi roasted in Macchil Sector LoC

 

[Indian Sniper.001]

Another thing is we r giving too much attention to Kashmir problem.If you compare this with other problems we r facing its very insignificant. Kashmir terrorists r low grade terrorists they can't do anything significant to damage indian forces in valley.Also our army's active patrolling of LoC vastly reduced paki terrorists in valley.

Put Kashmir problem in cold storage. Dont give them any attention. If you look at casualties of army since 2004 in valley its comparable to peacetime casualties. Focus the attention towards economy.

Where do you guys come from? How can the Bharat grow when a part of it is bleeding? Every single day one of our brother is dying somewhere there and you are telling to put the Kashmir issue in the cold storage?

 

[square]

Another thing is we r giving too much attention to Kashmir problem.If you compare this with other problems we r facing its very insignificant. Kashmir terrorists r low grade terrorists they can't do anything significant to damage indian forces in valley.Also our army's active patrolling of LoC vastly reduced paki terrorists in valley.

Put Kashmir problem in cold storage. Dont give them any attention. If you look at casualties of army since 2004 in valley its comparable to peacetime casualties. Focus the attention towards economy.

the point here is , if we stop giving media attention to kashmir , the other side will keep the propoganda running......its nessesery to give coverage to every bit of voilence coused by terrorists , firing on loc , encunters with terrorists.........it will help keep exposing the pakistan exported terror , and make them speechless infront of the world......

 

[Project Dharma]

The minute someone brings Modi or Congress or Kalki into this thread it gets derailed. Please keep it about news and discussion on LoC action only.

As an aside, I am a bit distressed by the lack of coverage of LoC casualties. Seems like we are losing good men to cowardly snipers. What kind of anti sniper equipment if any do we have? I've read about equipment that can pinpoint the location of the sniper. That combined with a counter sniper should teach the pork chops a lesson they wont forget.

 

[pankaj nema]

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