LOC, LAC & International Border skirmishs

[lupgain]

And Indian Army replied Kadi Ninda ke saath

 

[Kshatriya87]

No interest in keeping LoC hot: Pakistan

 

[lupgain]

Have you guys noticed that news about J&K and Indian army has dropped tremendously in Pak news channel after they stopped wrapping militants with PAK Flag and emergence of caliphate - ISIS in valley.... Pakistan so dubious in their behavior

 

[Mikesingh]

China to blame for standoff, all nations with India: Sushma

Blaming China for trying to change the status of the India-Bhutan-China tri-junction, minister for external affairs Sushma Swaraj on Thursday ruled out unilateral withdrawal of Indian troops as is being insisted on by an increasingly belligerent Beijing.

Responding to queries during question hour in the Rajya Sabha, Swaraj said China's attempt to build a road through Bhutan posed a security challenge to India. She ruled out meeting Beijing's demand for a pullout of Indian troops as a condition for de-escalation on the Doklam plateau. The external affairs minister referred to China's insistence and said: “India wants that all troops are removed from the tri-junction point before discussing the issue together.All countries, including Bhutan, are with us.“

“Their (China's) intention was to reach the trijunction so that they could unilaterally end the status of the tri-junction. It was only then that India came into the picture. If China unilaterally changes the tri-junction point, then India's security is challenged,“ she said.

The day saw China repea ting its demand that India call back its troop as the first step towards resolution of tension. Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Lu Kang told reporters that “our diplomatic channel is unimpeded“, an indication that the two sides were talking to defuse the crisis.

However, he stressed that “the withdrawal of Indian personnel is the precondition for any meaningful dialogue and communication between the two countries“.

Swaraj's was the first detailed political statement on the latest boundary confrontation with China and sketched the framework for any talks that National Security Advisor A K Doval might hold with his Chinese counterpart Yang Jieche when he travels to Beijing on July 27-28 for a meeting of the NSAs of BRICS countries.

While the ostensible reason for Doval's visit is to hold deliberations with his equivalents from other BRICS countries, the NSA will hold possibly the first high-level discussions with Yang on the border stand-off. The visit will be significant because it will indicate whether there are realis tic prospects for a resolution before the BRICS summit in September, or whether both countries are in for a long stalemate.

Swaraj's statement came against rising decibel of bellicose rhetoric from Beijing, threats of all-out war included, and India's attempt to play down the confrontation. The foreign minister did not strike any aggressive note, but was unambiguous in stating that it is the Chinese who started the confrontation seeking to change the status at tri-junction and India can let that pass only at risk to its security.

“We are saying that matter can be resolved through talks, but both sides have to first take back their armies,“ the external affairs minister said, adding that India was not being unreasonable and had the support of all nations. “ All countries are supporting us and they understand that the stand taken by India on the issue is not wrong as they realise that the China is getting aggressive with Bhutan,“ Swaraj said.

She further said: “India's position is not wrong on the tri-junction and all nations are with it. The law is with our country and all are realising this.“

Later, MEA spokesman Gopal Bagley suggested that a solution could be found through talks, underplaying China's insistence that India recalled its troops first. “I've seen that statement about the precondition. What I can say is that diplomatic channels are not impeded. It is important to note that aspect,“ he said.

Baglay stressed what he called the “Astana consensus“ of not allowing “differences to become disputes“ which Modi told Xi Jinping at the recent SCO summit in Kazakhstan.



http://epaperbeta.timesofindia.com/...for-standoff-all-nations-with-21072017001086#

This government is showing some balls! A welcome change from the Congress' bootlicking the Chinese for the past many decades.

 

[Cutting Edge 2]

Have you guys noticed that news about J&K and Indian army has dropped tremendously in Pak news channel after they stopped wrapping militants with PAK Flag and emergence of caliphate - ISIS in valley.... Pakistan so dubious in their behavior

Abdul Basit is in contact with Chinese and there are rumours that he is planning to meet Bhutanese officials. They want to negotiate Dokhlam between Bhutanese and Chinese while completely ignoring India. Pak is very active behind the scenes.

 

[lupgain]

Abdul Basit is in contact with Chinese and there are rumours that he is planning to meet Bhutanese officials. They want to negotiate Dokhlam between Bhutanese and Chinese while completely ignoring India.

Pakistani Diplomatic Clout is not that strong that it can convince bhutan... Common Bhutan knows Pakistan itself is satellite state of china and is doing this on instruction from Beijing.. Do you think they are in a position to make their own decisions.. their only purpose of this act is to create irritation in Indian Diplomatic circle.. This is the same guy who met hurriyat leaders.. and what happened next you know..

 

[Cutting Edge 2]

Pakistani Diplomatic Clout is not that strong that it can convince bhutan... Common Bhutan knows Pakistan itself is satellite state of china and is doing this on instruction from Beijing.. Do you think they are in a position to make their own decisions.. their only purpose of this act is to create irritation in Indian Diplomatic circle.. This is the same guy who met hurriyat leaders.. and what happened next you know..

Yup, nothing will come out of his meetings. What I was trying to tell is even though their media is silent Pak is quite active regarding India China standoff.

 

[square]

Pakistani Diplomatic Clout is not that strong that it can convince bhutan... Common Bhutan knows Pakistan itself is satellite state of china and is doing this on instruction from Beijing.. Do you think they are in a position to make their own decisions.. their only purpose of this act is to create irritation in Indian Diplomatic circle.. This is the same guy who met hurriyat leaders.. and what happened next you know..

bhutan's security is indian responsibility.......

the way chinese grab lands in srilanka , they has lost the face value they had , reason why bangladesh steps back granting any undue advantage to china...

 

[square]

Yup, nothing will come out of his meetings. What I was trying to tell is even though their media is silent Pak is quite active regarding India China standoff.

like india gathering internstional support , china talking too.......thats it !!

 

[indus]

Pakistani Diplomatic Clout is not that strong that it can convince bhutan... Common Bhutan knows Pakistan itself is satellite state of china and is doing this on instruction from Beijing.. Do you think they are in a position to make their own decisions.. their only purpose of this act is to create irritation in Indian Diplomatic circle.. This is the same guy who met hurriyat leaders.. and what happened next you know..

Or may be Pak official acting like a back channel diplomacy track for China. Coz Bhutanese & Chini dont have direct foreign relations, they negotiate through India.

 

[lupgain]

A game becomes interesting only when you learn how to play. AND A test can be fun when you prepare the right way.

 

[lupgain]

like india gathering internstional support , china talking too.......thats it !!

China is becoming like bollywood actor of 90's Too much dialogue bazi before shooting ... If you want to shoot ... Shoot... don't just keep on Shouting... :blah::blah::blah::blah::blah:

 

[SanjeevM]

With their media threatening on a daily basis, all neighbouring countries including Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Burma and other countries that supported OBOR and CPEC, are seeing the imperialist designs of China. China grabbing land of a small unarmed nation Bhutan, has exposed the sweet talks of China.

How about India calling a delegation of African countries ambassadors and appraise them of the situation and educate them about the Chinese imperialist designs. If African countries also start saying no to Chinese acquiring large lands for plantations on 99 year lease, mines etc, that will hit China real hard.

 

[Tarun Kumar]

My sense is that PLA is itching for fight- fight with Xi , fight with IA so that they prove who the boss is. Xi will go with PLA and not with diplomacy. Guys time to shed blood and lots of it for motherland is coming. All we can do is fight.

 

[Bornubus]

Wait for Big Bang




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[Kshatriya87]

My sense is that PLA is itching for fight- fight with Xi , fight with IA so that they prove who the boss is. Xi will go with PLA and not with diplomacy. Guys time to shed blood and lots of it for motherland is coming. All we can do is fight.

Tu chutiya hai


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[square]

My sense is that PLA is itching for fight- fight with Xi , fight with IA so that they prove who the boss is. Xi will go with PLA and not with diplomacy. Guys time to shed blood and lots of it for motherland is coming. All we can do is fight.

we are fighting for the motherland since ages.......fighting is in our dna .....
you know the best way to remove itching ....screw a finger there..

 

[Mikesingh]

Abdul Basit is in contact with Chinese and there are rumours that he is planning to meet Bhutanese officials. They want to negotiate Dokhlam between Bhutanese and Chinese while completely ignoring India. Pak is very active behind the scenes.

Here's a conspiracy theory. Pappu must have requested Basit to sort out the issue with his Chinese counterpart seeing that they are higher than the mountains friends.

 

[Krusty]

Surprisingly little or no activity from Chinese fifty Centers or their paki slaves today. Last week (even up until yesterday) there was a flood of new accounts by both the 'sweeter than honey' bros pushing pages upon pages of cheat beating ego stroking propaganda material. Wonder what happened..

 

[thethinker]

Surprisingly little or no activity from Chinese fifty Centers or their paki slaves today. Last week (even up until yesterday) there was a flood of new accounts by both the 'sweeter than honey' bros pushing pages upon pages of cheat beating ego stroking propaganda material. Wonder what happened..

It's now there on Paki and Chinese economy discussion threads.


http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...omy-news-discussion.2624/page-49#post-1329477


http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/china-economy-news-discussion.2744/page-69#post-1329410

New troll accounts with non Paki IP addresses are posting pro China and pro Pak articles and the resident jehadi @Neo is liking them.

Ilon Blothels fol life!