LOC, LAC & International Border skirmishs

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tharun

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Chinese bunkers on the sikkim border pic via google earth
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Yes that what everyone doing apart from one Big panda which has gobbled spartlay islands and gobbling more in SCS because of its big fat stomach and slowly and steadily doing the same in the western part of its boundaries tooo....

Nobody is capturing jackshit, everyone is protecting their own behind I.e territorial sovereignty.


Sabki fati padi hai
 

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I understand that. My question is wrt the location. In the first map, Dolam is seen to be a bit distant to the tri-junction.
In the second, it actually slips past the current tri-junction via Bhutan's territory and creates a new one which makes it easier for Chinese to target the Siliguri corridor.
The upper shaded area is the Doklam Plateau and the lower one is called Doklam Bowl which includes the Trijunction. The latter is where the stand-off is.
 

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“Military means shouldn’t be an option to solve the Korean Peninsula issue,” a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman said.
But employ military means as an option for solving the Doklam stand-off???? These assholes should practice what they preach! Double standards and hypocrisy! Idiots! Their confused brains are as small as their slit eyes. Jeeeez!
 

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Chinese bunkers on the sikkim border pic via google earth
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That's a bloody terrain... all the way climbing up charging on the posts... with arty fire.. man this is so fu**** brutal .. how our soldiers will show the bravery would be off 1000 cannon fire as tribute....

Gurkhas nagas and assames can do the job well... giving them surprize from behind as this time India will surely not care about LAC!!

ma** ch*** deingy salo ki ... agar koi harkat ki
 

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The treaty between Britain and China was signed at Calcutta Convention in 1890. Of the eight Articles mentioned in the treaty, Article 1 is of critical significance. China has cited this Article to stake its claim over Doklam.

Here's the Treaty which was an attempt to define what has become the bone of contention now: the tri-junction or tri-boundary between India, Bhutan and China or Sikkim, Bhutan and Tibet....







According to India's interpretation of the treaty and delineation of the boundaries, the phrase "crest line" assumes more significance. This is in accordance with the general principle of boundary delineation across the world for the treaties agreed on the basis of 18th and 19th century understanding of maps and cartographic practices.

India asserts that the crest line or the ridge that runs from the border of Nepal ends at a place called Batang La. Bhutan also maintains the same demarcation.

China has been on an information campaign to suggest that India has accepted Chinese jurisdiction over Doklam area. It produced a letter written by former Prime Minister of India Jawahar Lal Nehru to back its claim.

Chinese foreign office read the portion of Nehru's letter to suit its case. "On September 26, 1959, Nehru confirmed with Zhou that there was no dispute on the China-Sikkim border," Chinese foreign office spokesperson Geng Shuang said last month citing the letter.

But, in the same letter, Nehru went on to state that the "Chinese maps show sizeable areas of Bhutan as part of Tibet," adding, "The rectification of errors in Chinese maps regarding the boundary of Bhutan with Tibet is therefore a matter which has to be discussed along with the boundary of India with the Tibet region of China in the same sector."

An understanding was reached in 2012, when the two Governments "reached (an) agreement that the tri-junction boundary points between India, China and third countries will be finalized in consultation with the concerned countries."

Pointing to the 2012-agreement, the Ministry of External Affair (MEA) has said, "Any attempt, therefore, to unilaterally determine tri-junction points is in violation of this understanding."

But the Chinese are so thickheaded and their eyes so narrow that they can't see beyond their frikkin noses.
 

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people don't have idea how bloody this could be if India and China get into skirmish. The momentum would gain exponentially.
might not !

the area around bordars with china are all mountains........by ground its next to imposible.....
there is only one road in mountains , running spiral , one bomb and route will choked for months...

from air , it will be difficults to beat AD ....
by navy , they will achive no objectives.....

himalayas are unbeatable so do nepal , bhutan never ruled by invaders ....this part of china was also never cane under japanies rule....
 

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by this part of china , i mean hills running from tibet , right up to ladakh....
During the Japanese conquest of parts of China and Manchuoko, this region was not a part of Republic of China Tibet was an independent country. No idea if Japanese had plans for this region.
 

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Maybe not the right thread to ask but since we are discussing china here ...

Do other people find "Art of War" by Sun Tzu highly overrated ? The halo around it part of "Chinese the great Martial Race" narrative building?
Below are two versions of Art of War ,one from China and the other for US

Art of war – China ( Sun Tzu )

Always choose only the weakest and softest of them all to pick a fight.
Before attack make doubly sure that you have actually picked up the weakest of them all to fight with.
Still don’t attack him in haste.
Drain him out both physically and mentally.
Instigate his neighbors, friends,family members (wife ,kids J) to rise against him for howsoever trivial reasons there may be.
Tell your friend (common enemy) to go past him with a sharp blade in fingers and make a tiny little slash on his body (without him even feel the cut).
Repeat the process a thousand times.
Pollute his water air and food and let the bugger fall ill.
Then approach him (with a knife borrowed from a friend or a common enemy)in his sick bed stealthily in dark of the night ,when he is fast asleep.
Irritate and shock him with sounds ,screams,howls,pin pricks etc.
If he tries to open his eyes or raise his hand just then pull out the knife and make mincemeat of him.
His mere opening up of eyes or somewhat raised hand will be passed on as an act of aggression or first attack in the eyes of the world.


Art of war – USA
Be the strongest, always and every time! Period.
 

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One of the outcomes of this nautanki should be...

A journalist collective of all countries neighbouring china. china does these cheap tricks to all its neighbours, might as well publish it in news in all neighbours when any one is at the receiving end.

By journalistic collective I mean like how panama papers were managed by few journalists around the world formed one group to investigate it.

Right now people of individual countries might feel they alone are being targeted, collective news shows all are at the same receiving end and show that same tricks are being against all of us by china.
 

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Below are two versions of Art of War ,one from China and the other for US

Art of war – China ( Sun Tzu )

Always choose only the weakest and softest of them all to pick a fight.
Before attack make doubly sure that you have actually picked up the weakest of them all to fight with.
Still don’t attack him in haste.
Drain him out both physically and mentally.
Instigate his neighbors, friends,family members (wife ,kids J) to rise against him for howsoever trivial reasons there may be.
Tell your friend (common enemy) to go past him with a sharp blade in fingers and make a tiny little slash on his body (without him even feel the cut).
Repeat the process a thousand times.
Pollute his water air and food and let the bugger fall ill.
Then approach him (with a knife borrowed from a friend or a common enemy)in his sick bed stealthily in dark of the night ,when he is fast asleep.
Irritate and shock him with sounds ,screams,howls,pin pricks etc.
If he tries to open his eyes or raise his hand just then pull out the knife and make mincemeat of him.
His mere opening up of eyes or somewhat raised hand will be passed on as an act of aggression or first attack in the eyes of the world.


Art of war – USA
Be the strongest, always and every time! Period.
Show respect to your enemy or it(your recklessness) will weaken you.

That's all I have for you.

With your post, it is clear that no amount of explanation on Art of War will help you understand it

@aliyah
Chinese gave up reading (except CCP Propaganda) and thinking after Mao.

@ezsasa
Fatal flaws in this kind of op.

Govt should be corrupt like Congress. BJP is far less. Now, I don't mean that there a is no corruption in India or atleast in BJP. But, l am yet to hear a corruption case on BJP MPs sworn in 2014.

When you plan these psyops... never give a reason for common folks to turn their attention from govt towards common enemy. China just did by Dhoklam standoff.
 
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