LOC, LAC & IB warfare

[Suryavanshi]

@Hiranyaksha and I want to be arms dealers please hook us up breh once you are successful

Paaji right now I'm in the first year of Aero engineering but jab kuch ban jaunga to ap dono ko jarur bulaunga, after all investment bhi to chaiye .
You're experience in market and management will be helpful for a smooth start in business.

I have always dreamt of buildings company like BDL this started when I started to view videos about rockets and aircraft. My fascination led me to chose my Career.
It was sure hard at first pehle year ke IIT me kharab no aye, parents ke pressure me akar local engineering college me nam likha liya but mene dubara study ki aur IIT diya, now finally I'm in IIT kharagpur.
U know India me talent rah kar bhi jaldi support nahi mil pata.

Just give me 9 to 10 years phir Porkio ko hala karne ka saman hum apne ghar me hi banaenge.

 

[rock127]

India asks China to retreat from Bhutanese territory

NEW DELHI: Making it clear that it will not buckle under heated rhetoric from China, India said a diplomatic resolution resulting in a Chinese pullback from Bhutanese territory would resolve the current border stand-off near the India - Bhutan-Tibet tri-junction.

"This issue or tension should be resolved at the diplomatic level...It can be resolved diplomatically, which is what we want," said minister of state for defence Subhash Bhamre, speaking to journalists here on Wednesday.

"The Chinese troops should stay where they were earlier...They have entered Bhutan's territory...they should not intrude into Bhutanese territory. This is our security concern and this is our stand," he added.

Pointing to Bhutan's recent statement, which held China accused of trying to unilaterally alter the status quo by constructing a road inside Bhutanese territory in violation of all agreements, Bhamre said, "Understand what Bhutan is saying. This tension can be resolved only at a diplomatic level; across the table, we can solve all the problems."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-retreat-from-doklam/articleshow/59462861.cms

India SHOULD support Bhutan even more now.

We should not repeat the same mistake Nehru did or else Bhutan would be Tibet-II.China is thinking that it can do "Crimea" to Bhutan.

It's good that at least Bhutan has some Army of it's own and India is responsible for it's overall defense.

 

[Project Dharma]

Just give me 9 to 10 years phir Porkio ko hala karne ka saman hum apne ghar me hi banaenge.

Please do so, I would love an excuse to move back to India at that stage

 

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http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1055088.shtml

"India has startling control and oppression over Bhutan, and as a result, Bhutan has not established diplomatic ties with its neighbor China or any other permanent member of the UN Security Council. Through unequal treaties, India has severely jeopardized Bhutan's diplomatic sovereignty and controls its national defense.

India imposed a similar coercive policy on Sikkim before. The small neighbor's revolts over sovereignty in the 1960s and 1970s were brutally cracked down on by the Indian military. New Delhi deposed the king of Sikkim in 1975 and manipulated the country's parliament into a referendum to make Sikkim a state of India. The annexation of Sikkim is like a nightmare haunting Bhutan, and the small kingdom is forced to be submissive to India's bullying.

After independence, New Delhi inherited the brutal colonial policies of Britain and pursues regional hegemony at the sacrifice of tiny Himalayan nations.

New Delhi's regional hegemony is boldly shown by the border face-off this time. Using the excuse of "helping Bhutan protect its sovereignty," India brazenly obstructs China's road construction in Chinese territory.

China's construction site is near India's Siliguri Corridor, a vital path to the country's turbulent northeast area. Suspicious of the potential threats the road construction poses to the corridor, Indian troops crossed the border to the China side and obstructed our road construction.

New Delhi's regional hegemony is swelling to a tipping point. The country has to pay for its provocations.

The world should pay attention to New Delhi's bullying of tiny Himalayan countries. The international community must be aware of Bhutan's dilemma and prevent India from oppressing this small kingdom.

China should lead the international community in restoring Bhutan's diplomatic and defense sovereignty. Unfair treaties between India and Bhutan that severely violate the will of the Bhutanese people should be abolished. China needs to put more efforts into establishing diplomatic ties with Bhutan at an earlier date as well.

Meanwhile, Beijing should reconsider its stance over the Sikkim issue. Although China recognized India's annexation of Sikkim in 2003, it can readjust its stance on the matter. There are those in Sikkim that cherish its history as a separate state, and they are sensitive to how the outside world views the Sikkim issue. As long as there are voices in Chinese society supporting Sikkim's independence, the voices will spread and fuel pro-independence appeals in Sikkim.

In the past, China was wary of India playing the Dalai Lama card, but this card is already overplayed and will exert no additional effect on the Tibet question. But if Beijing adjusts its stance on India-sensitive issues, it could be a powerful card to deal with New Delhi.

With certain conditions, Bhutan and Sikkim will see strong anti-India movements, which will negatively affect India's already turbulent northeast area and rewrite southern Himalayan geopolitics.

The Sino-Indian relationship is complicated. Beijing is more powerful yet unwilling to face a confrontation with New Delhi. But meanwhile, we must have enough tools to deter India from provocations."

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faat gai sallo ki.............

 

[SanjeevM]

The best solution of the current impasse I see is that Bhutan should immediately approach UN or ICJ and raise the issue of Chinese aggression on it's territory. Present all facts. Let ICJ rule in favor of Bhutan. Let China say they don't believe in ICJ order like they said in case of SCS. Let's unite UN countries and kick China out of UN groups as China is not following UN directions. Sanctions can be imposed against China. Though it is a slow process, ICJ or UN injunction will ask all parties to maintain status quo. It will give time for India to prepare for a credible deterrence against Chinese aggression.

Get Guns, artillery to army, ATAGs, assemble Tejas at war scale. Fit them with anything that fires. Get tanks, get Akash in large numbers. Get numbers. Dig trenches, make bunkers. Ban some of the media channels.

 

[amoy]

An old analysis on the trilateral embroglio. Yet very telling of the truth that the Kingdom of Bhutan is well aware of where its own interests and perils lie. The fall of the Kingdom of Sikkim is like writing on the wall for Bhutan.


Would India disrupt Bhutan China Border Negotiations?

India had been controlling the Sino Bhutan international boundary Talks through its iron grip on Bhutan’s economic and communication dependence on India. The writer Charu Sudan Kasturi cites the case of India withdrawing subsidies in 2013 to warn Bhutan against normalising relation with China.

The China Bhutan Border Talks have been going on for decades. China has been quite sincere and mostly positive in conducting the international boundary negotiation with Bhutan. And Bhutan on the other hand has been trying to delay the progress for many years at the insistence of India. How long can Bhutan defy the patience of China and to what national benefit? The next step after signing international boundary agreement with China would be normalising relationship between the two Countries.

And that is what India wants to stall or prevent. A diplomatic level relationship with China would forever consolidate the sovereign status of Bhutan. Bhutan would no longer be easily available to act as political pawn or surrogate for India in sensitive international politics. That is a fact. However, Bhutan’s corner stone foreign policy of friendship with India will not alter. India will remain Bhutan’s most desired benefactor. Geographical access, language and social behaviour naturally bring Bhutan closer to India. So India will be more dominant than China in Bhutan’s priority. At the other end of the scale it would be suicidal to keep snubbing friendly overtures from China.

Unfortunately India and many other Western Nations and their Allies in South East Asia including Australia and Japan do not want China to develop progressive relationship with Bhutan. On the other hand these same Countries have gone all out to develop their own political and economic ties with China. So they are not containing the influence of China in international affairs but they are curtailing the progress of Bhutan. It is necessary that Bhutanese Leaders counter the isolation of Bhutan from China by vested interests of India and other pro Western groups of nations. Bhutan cannot be ” A Tool of Irritant ‘ for anti- China forces.

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There're more and more Bhutanese studying or working in China nowadays.

Reciprocally

From just 19 Chinese tourists coming to Bhutan more than 10 years ago, Chinese tourists have now become one of the most important source markets for Bhutan and took the top position in 2015, constituting 19.3 percent of the total arrivals.

The newly released annual Bhutan tourism monitor report said Tuesday the number of Chinese tourists increased to 9,399 in 2015 from 8,111 in 2014, 4,827 in 2013 and 722 in 2010. Over the last five years, Chinese tourists have shown continuous increase in arrivals.

Just a matter of time for normalizing Sino Bhutan ties.

 

[SanjeevM]

An old analysis on the trilateral embroglio. Yet very telling of the truth that the Kingdom of Bhutan is well aware of where its interests and perils lie. The fall of the Kingdom of Sikkim is like writing on the wall for Bhutan.


Would India disrupt Bhutan China Border Negotiations?

India had been controlling the Sino Bhutan international boundary Talks through its iron grip on Bhutan’s economic and communication dependence on India. The writer Charu Sudan Kasturi cites the case of India withdrawing subsidies in 2013 to warn Bhutan against normalising relation with China.

The China Bhutan Border Talks have been going on for decades. China has been quite sincere and mostly positive in conducting the international boundary negotiation with Bhutan. And Bhutan on the other hand has been trying to delay the progress for many years at the insistence of India. How long can Bhutan defy the patience of China and to what national benefit? The next step after signing international boundary agreement with China would be normalising relationship between the two Countries.

And that is what India wants to stall or prevent. A diplomatic level relationship with China would forever consolidate the sovereign status of Bhutan. Bhutan would no longer be easily available to act as political pawn or surrogate for India in sensitive international politics. That is a fact. However, Bhutan’s corner stone foreign policy of friendship with India will not alter. India will remain Bhutan’s most desired benefactor. Geographical access, language and social behaviour naturally bring Bhutan closer to India. So India will be more dominant than China in Bhutan’s priority. At the other end of the scale it would be suicidal to keep snubbing friendly overtures from China.

Unfortunately India and many other Western Nations and their Allies in South East Asia including Australia and Japan do not want China to develop progressive relationship with Bhutan. On the other hand these same Countries have gone all out to develop their own political and economic ties with China. So they are not containing the influence of China in international affairs but they are curtailing the progress of Bhutan. It is necessary that Bhutanese Leaders counter the isolation of Bhutan from China by vested interests of India and other pro Western groups of nations. Bhutan cannot be ” A Tool of Irritant ‘ for anti- China forces.

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There're more and more Bhutanese studying or working in China nowadays.

Reciprocally

Just a matter of time for normalizing Sino Bhutan ties.

This is imperialist Chinese propaganda. Nothing more. You are saying what your pay masters have briefed you.

 

[airtel]

An old analysis on the trilateral embroglio. Yet very telling of the truth that the Kingdom of Bhutan is well aware of where its own interests and perils lie. The fall of the Kingdom of Sikkim is like writing on the wall for Bhutan.


Would India disrupt Bhutan China Border Negotiations?

India had been controlling the Sino Bhutan international boundary Talks through its iron grip on Bhutan’s economic and communication dependence on India. The writer Charu Sudan Kasturi cites the case of India withdrawing subsidies in 2013 to warn Bhutan against normalising relation with China.

The China Bhutan Border Talks have been going on for decades. China has been quite sincere and mostly positive in conducting the international boundary negotiation with Bhutan. And Bhutan on the other hand has been trying to delay the progress for many years at the insistence of India. How long can Bhutan defy the patience of China and to what national benefit? The next step after signing international boundary agreement with China would be normalising relationship between the two Countries.

And that is what India wants to stall or prevent. A diplomatic level relationship with China would forever consolidate the sovereign status of Bhutan. Bhutan would no longer be easily available to act as political pawn or surrogate for India in sensitive international politics. That is a fact. However, Bhutan’s corner stone foreign policy of friendship with India will not alter. India will remain Bhutan’s most desired benefactor. Geographical access, language and social behaviour naturally bring Bhutan closer to India. So India will be more dominant than China in Bhutan’s priority. At the other end of the scale it would be suicidal to keep snubbing friendly overtures from China.

Unfortunately India and many other Western Nations and their Allies in South East Asia including Australia and Japan do not want China to develop progressive relationship with Bhutan. On the other hand these same Countries have gone all out to develop their own political and economic ties with China. So they are not containing the influence of China in international affairs but they are curtailing the progress of Bhutan. It is necessary that Bhutanese Leaders counter the isolation of Bhutan from China by vested interests of India and other pro Western groups of nations. Bhutan cannot be ” A Tool of Irritant ‘ for anti- China forces.

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There're more and more Bhutanese studying or working in China nowadays.

Reciprocally

Just a matter of time for normalizing Sino Bhutan ties.

lol it seems Bhutan have " free Media " ( Like India , USA , UK ) .................which will write anything & everything in exchange of Money ...............but all these Paid propaganda articles (that too written in 2014 ) do not change the Ground realities .

Bhutan govt. is with India and they officially opposed Land grabbing policies of CCP .

 

[square]

The best solution of the current impasse I see is that Bhutan should immediately approach UN or ICJ and raise the issue of Chinese aggression on it's territory. Present all facts. Let ICJ rule in favor of Bhutan. Let China say they don't believe in ICJ order like they said in case of SCS. Let's unite UN countries and kick China out of UN groups as China is not following UN directions. Sanctions can be imposed against China. Though it is a slow process, ICJ or UN injunction will ask all parties to maintain status quo. It will give time for India to prepare for a credible deterrence against Chinese aggression.

Get Guns, artillery to army, ATAGs, assemble Tejas at war scale. Fit them with anything that fires. Get tanks, get Akash in large numbers. Get numbers. Dig trenches, make bunkers. Ban some of the media channels.

the best solution is to reclose the nathula pass.......

from 1962 to 2006 , it was closed and there was no problem....

since 2006 , after it reopened , chinese activites and ambitions are on rise in the area........they start influencing bhutan , interfering in the matters of arunachal , now even start talking about sikkim...

still could not understand , what mugli gutti been feed to MM UPA govt by chinese , that they agreed to reopen this route.

 

[Krusty]

An old analysis on the trilateral embroglio. Yet very telling of the truth that the Kingdom of Bhutan is well aware of where its own interests and perils lie. The fall of the Kingdom of Sikkim is like writing on the wall for Bhutan.


Would India disrupt Bhutan China Border Negotiations?

India had been controlling the Sino Bhutan international boundary Talks through its iron grip on Bhutan’s economic and communication dependence on India. The writer Charu Sudan Kasturi cites the case of India withdrawing subsidies in 2013 to warn Bhutan against normalising relation with China.

The China Bhutan Border Talks have been going on for decades. China has been quite sincere and mostly positive in conducting the international boundary negotiation with Bhutan. And Bhutan on the other hand has been trying to delay the progress for many years at the insistence of India. How long can Bhutan defy the patience of China and to what national benefit? The next step after signing international boundary agreement with China would be normalising relationship between the two Countries.

And that is what India wants to stall or prevent. A diplomatic level relationship with China would forever consolidate the sovereign status of Bhutan. Bhutan would no longer be easily available to act as political pawn or surrogate for India in sensitive international politics. That is a fact. However, Bhutan’s corner stone foreign policy of friendship with India will not alter. India will remain Bhutan’s most desired benefactor. Geographical access, language and social behaviour naturally bring Bhutan closer to India. So India will be more dominant than China in Bhutan’s priority. At the other end of the scale it would be suicidal to keep snubbing friendly overtures from China.

Unfortunately India and many other Western Nations and their Allies in South East Asia including Australia and Japan do not want China to develop progressive relationship with Bhutan. On the other hand these same Countries have gone all out to develop their own political and economic ties with China. So they are not containing the influence of China in international affairs but they are curtailing the progress of Bhutan. It is necessary that Bhutanese Leaders counter the isolation of Bhutan from China by vested interests of India and other pro Western groups of nations. Bhutan cannot be ” A Tool of Irritant ‘ for anti- China forces.

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There're more and more Bhutanese studying or working in China nowadays.

Reciprocally

Just a matter of time for normalizing Sino Bhutan ties.

Typical kommie kool-aid. Check this out from globaltimes.. link in the above posts..

Unfair treaties between India and Bhutan that severely violate the will of the Bhutanese people should be abolished.

@amoy now not only CCP Knows exactly what YOU and every Chinese citizen EXACTLY wants but it also now knows what all Bhutanese citizens want too. :bounceSeriously, do you guys have any opinions of your own or you just say yes to whatever comrade 11 Jinping says?)

Commie propaganda is absolutely hilarious. Well Tibetans wants freedom and Xinjiang people want basic rights. CCP better give to to them if they don't want China to disintegrate.

Seriously, does CCP think it's sunning a school for 10YOs? Apparently you are under that same impression too.

Here is what Bhutan wants. Chinese to GTFO And stop their constructions. They have made it known officially. Better respect their sovereignty. CCP can pull wool over the eyes of its citizens. but Bhutanese have spoken. End of story,

 

[square]

Typical kommie kool-aid. Check this out from globaltimes.. link in the above posts..






@amoy now not only CCP Knows exactly what YOU and every Chinese citizen EXACTLY wants but it also now knows what all Bhutanese citizens want too. :bounceSeriously, do you guys have any opinions of your own or you just say yes to whatever comrade 11 Jinping says?)

Commie propaganda is absolutely hilarious. Well Tibetans wants freedom and Xinjiang people want basic rights. CCP better give to to them if they don't want China to disintegrate.

Seriously, does CCP think it's sunning a school for 10YOs? Apparently you are under that same impression too.

Here is what Bhutan wants. Chinese to GTFO And stop their constructions. They have made it known officially. Better respect their sovereignty. CCP can pull wool over the eyes of its citizens. but Bhutanese have spoken. End of story,

chinese sweet candy policies are already exposed.......

in srilanka.......bangladesh , veitnam , nepal.......

sweet candy ( lolipop) .....what we call in local language.....chusky ?

 

[Kshatriya87]

Chinese media calls for Sikkim’s ‘independence’ and fueling anti-India feelings

Amid the Sino-India border standoff, the Chinese official media has called for Sikkim’s “independence” and separation from India and suggested that Beijing should rally the world for the abolition of unfair treaties on sovereignty and defence that New Delhi has allegedly forced Bhutan to sign.

In an unambiguous call to incite violence in Sikkim, the state-controlled media called on Chinese citizens to “fuel” pro-independence movement in the Indian state bordering China and overturn India’s “brutal” annexation of the state.

 

[Krusty]

Chinese media calls for Sikkim’s ‘independence’ and fueling anti-India feelings

Amid the Sino-India border standoff, the Chinese official media has called for Sikkim’s “independence” and separation from India and suggested that Beijing should rally the world for the abolition of unfair treaties on sovereignty and defence that New Delhi has allegedly forced Bhutan to sign.

In an unambiguous call to incite violence in Sikkim, the state-controlled media called on Chinese citizens to “fuel” pro-independence movement in the Indian state bordering China and overturn India’s “brutal” annexation of the state.

We're gonna have to counter this sooner or later...

Sikkim land area - 7000+ sqkm (all residents firmly loyal to India)

Tibet land area - 1228400sqkm (residents want freedom. Regular protests in cities across EU and most UNHRC summits by Tibetians. Unfortunately, suppressed there too thanks to China's pressure)

Eat that comrade Xi. Don't even get me started on Xinjiang.

 

[square]

Chinese media calls for Sikkim’s ‘independence’ and fueling anti-India feelings

Amid the Sino-India border standoff, the Chinese official media has called for Sikkim’s “independence” and separation from India and suggested that Beijing should rally the world for the abolition of unfair treaties on sovereignty and defence that New Delhi has allegedly forced Bhutan to sign.

In an unambiguous call to incite violence in Sikkim, the state-controlled media called on Chinese citizens to “fuel” pro-independence movement in the Indian state bordering China and overturn India’s “brutal” annexation of the state.

just need to say " tibet " in his annual speech !!!

 

[Kshatriya87]

This is the end of the great Commie rise. Communist countries cannot lead the world.

NKo missile test was a blessing in disguise. USA hates china even more now.

 

[Kshatriya87]

India SHOULD support Bhutan even more now.

We should not repeat the same mistake Nehru did or else Bhutan would be Tibet-II.China is thinking that it can do "Crimea" to Bhutan.

It's good that at least Bhutan has some Army of it's own and India is responsible for it's overall defense.

India will "cream" china if that ever happens.

 

[Krusty]

China Demands India Leave Himalayan Plateau in Rising Spat

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-india-leave-himalayan-plateau-in-rising-spat

It has been 'demanding' for the last week so. Please post if china does something other than useless talking.

 

[Kshatriya87]

An old analysis on the trilateral embroglio. Yet very telling of the truth that the Kingdom of Bhutan is well aware of where its own interests and perils lie. The fall of the Kingdom of Sikkim is like writing on the wall for Bhutan.


Would India disrupt Bhutan China Border Negotiations?

India had been controlling the Sino Bhutan international boundary Talks through its iron grip on Bhutan’s economic and communication dependence on India. The writer Charu Sudan Kasturi cites the case of India withdrawing subsidies in 2013 to warn Bhutan against normalising relation with China.

The China Bhutan Border Talks have been going on for decades. China has been quite sincere and mostly positive in conducting the international boundary negotiation with Bhutan. And Bhutan on the other hand has been trying to delay the progress for many years at the insistence of India. How long can Bhutan defy the patience of China and to what national benefit? The next step after signing international boundary agreement with China would be normalising relationship between the two Countries.

And that is what India wants to stall or prevent. A diplomatic level relationship with China would forever consolidate the sovereign status of Bhutan. Bhutan would no longer be easily available to act as political pawn or surrogate for India in sensitive international politics. That is a fact. However, Bhutan’s corner stone foreign policy of friendship with India will not alter. India will remain Bhutan’s most desired benefactor. Geographical access, language and social behaviour naturally bring Bhutan closer to India. So India will be more dominant than China in Bhutan’s priority. At the other end of the scale it would be suicidal to keep snubbing friendly overtures from China.

Unfortunately India and many other Western Nations and their Allies in South East Asia including Australia and Japan do not want China to develop progressive relationship with Bhutan. On the other hand these same Countries have gone all out to develop their own political and economic ties with China. So they are not containing the influence of China in international affairs but they are curtailing the progress of Bhutan. It is necessary that Bhutanese Leaders counter the isolation of Bhutan from China by vested interests of India and other pro Western groups of nations. Bhutan cannot be ” A Tool of Irritant ‘ for anti- China forces.

==================================================
There're more and more Bhutanese studying or working in China nowadays.

Reciprocally

Just a matter of time for normalizing Sino Bhutan ties.

You have posted an article from 2014. Why is china so obsessed with the past? Its always about 1890, 1962, 2000 years back etc. etc.

 

[square]

China Demands India Leave Himalayan Plateau in Rising Spat

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-india-leave-himalayan-plateau-in-rising-spat

you just chill....they need war , they will get...

tibet will be free !!!

 

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Sikkim Standoff Can Be Resolved Diplomatically: India
"This tension can be resolved at the diplomatic level. Across the table we can solve all the problems," Minister of State for Defence said.

"The Chinese troops should stay where they were earlier," said Minister of State for Defence.

NEW DELHI: The border standoff between armies of India and China at the Sikkim sector can be resolved diplomatically and Chinese soldiers should leave the Bhutanese territory to reduce tension in the area, Minister of State for Defence Subhash Bhamre said on Wednesday.

"I think the issue can be resolved at the diplomatic level. The Chinese troops should stay where they were earlier. China is approaching towards Bhutanese territory. We want them not to come forward."

"This is our security concern and this is our stand. Bhutan's King had yesterday given a statement that Chinese (troops) are entering into its territory. This tension can be resolved at the diplomatic level. Across the table we can solve all the problems," Mr Bhamre said.


Mr Bhamre's comments came on a day China accused India of "trampling" on the principles of the Panchsheel pact and demanded that India "correct its mistakes" by pulling back its troops immediately.

Chinese envoy to India Luo Zhaohui had yesterday said China had ruled out a compromisein the military standoff with India and put the onus on New Delhi to resolve the "grave" situation.


China and India have been engaged in a standoff in the Dokalam area near the Bhutan trijunction for the past 19 days after a Chinese army's construction party came to build a road.

Doka La is the Indian name for the region which Bhutan recognises as Dokalam, while China claims it as part of its Donglang region.

China and Bhutan are engaged in talks over the resolution of the area. Bhutan, however, has no diplomatic ties with China and it is supported militarily and diplomatically by India.

On the standoff, the Ministry of External Affairs had said India was "deeply concerned at the recent Chinese actions and has conveyed to the Chinese government that such construction would represent a significant change of status quo with serious security implications for India".

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/sikkim-standoff-can-be-resolved-diplomatically-india-1721140

nothing yet resolved deplomatically with china.....
not even as small as azar masood.....