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Individual soldiers should be equipped with helmet mounted NVG's which I have not seen even in a single pic which has been deployed operationally.
At present, helmet mounted NVDs are issued to Special Forces. Snipers have NV scopes. Infantry are generally equipped with hand held NVDs and TIs.

The Indian Army currently uses Israel origin hand-held thermal imagers that allow the soldiers to see suspects in total darkness, through smoke and during low visibility.

Now TASL (TATA Advanced Systems Ltd) are providing a range of multifunctional (hand-held, head/helmet/weapon mounted) NVDs, which will enhance the situational awareness in the tactical battle space. Manufactured in partnership with Exelis Inc. at Noida, TASL is producing the following multifunctional devices based on Gen-3 Image Intensification Technology:

  • Night Vision Monoculars
  • Night Vision Binoculars
  • Bi-ocular Night Vision Devices
  • Aviation Night Vision Goggles
However, I haven't a clue as to haw many systems have been procured for the Forces from TASL as of date.
 

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9 Porkis have infitrated LoC.Big attack coming

They have confirmed their tickets to jannat and will get their 72 as soon as available .
Till then they will provide some live shooting practice targets to our army, so that they can improve their dating service .

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India, Pakistan engage in intense mortar shelling along LoC, explosion of mortar shells audible even in Poonch town

The shelling in KG sector comes close on the heels of Indian Army killing 13 terrorists trying to infiltrate into Kashmir from across the LoC.

Last time, mortar shelling from across the LoC had been reported in KG sector on June 3.

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...r-shells-audible-even-in-poonch-town-4697922/
 

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J&K: 13 Pakistani intruders killed in last 96 hours, says Army
PublishedJun 10, 2017, 6:27 pm IST
UpdatedJun 10, 2017, 7:03 pm IST
Army said 'multiple attempts' by militants to sneak into J&K from PoK through various sectors of LoC were foiled by ‘alert’ troops.

Army alleged that the infiltrating militants were helped by the Pakistani troops by providing them active support including heavy calibre artillery covering fire. (Photo: PTI)
Srinagar: While foiling a fourth infiltration bid in row, the Army on Saturday killed a militant along the Line of Control (LoC) in Gurez sector of Jammu and Kashmir’s Bandipora district. With this the toll among the infiltrating militants in a series of clashes with the Army during past four days has risen to 13, whereas, one soldier was also martyred and two others were injured.

Defence spokesman Colonel Rajesh Kalia said, “One terrorist was killed by own troops in Gurez sector on Saturday. The weapon in his use has been seized. The operation is in progress.”

The Army said that the fire fight began when the troops guarding the de facto border observed movement of militants trying to sneak into the 2,580 m high Gurez valley, about 86 km from district headquarters Bandipora and 123 km north of Srinagar, from across and challenged them.

Illustrations released by the Army. (Photo: DC)

Earlier on Friday, the Army had claimed foiling an infiltration bid in Gwalta area of Uri sector of neighbouring Baramulla district after killing five militants. In the same area, two soldiers of 4 Jammu and Kashmir Light Infantry (JAKLI) were injured when the militants opened fire at a patrolling party on Thursday.

The Army said that “multiple attempts” have been made by militants to sneak into Jammu and Kashmir from PoK through various sectors of the LoC including Macheal, Nowgam, Uri and Gurez in Kupwara, Baramulla and Bandipora districts during the past week. All these attempts were, however, foiled by “alert” troops.

The Army has alleged that the infiltrating militants were helped by the Pakistani troops by providing them active support including heavy calibre artillery covering fire. Islamabad has yet to react to it but has denied such charges in the past.

The defence spokesman said that during this year, so far, as many as two dozen infiltration attempts were foiled by the Army troops along the LoC during which 40 armed intruders were killed. “Relentless operations by security forces have defeated desperate attempts by Pakistan and its agents to spread terror in Jammu and Kashmir during the holy month of Ramadan,” the spokesman had said in a statement issued from the Northern Command headquarters in Udhampur on Thursday.

Reiterating it on Saturday, the Udhampur-based defence spokesman Colonel N.N. Joshi said that Pakistan army’s “sinister designs” to push in multiple groups of armed intruders across the LoC continue to be defeated by proactive operations being carried out by the Indian Army along the de facto border. “Relentless operations mounted by troops have successfully intercepted groups of armed intruders all along the LoC in Gurez, Machael, Nowgam and Uri Sectors leading to elimination of 13 armed intruders in the past 96 hours. This includes groups of four and three armed intruders who were tracked and eliminated in the Machael and Nowgam sectors, respectively as reported on June 8. Since then, the operations in Uri and Gurez sectors have further progressed,” the spokesman said.

He added that five intruders were killed in Uri, so far, and one intruder in Gurez. “The explosives, inflammable material, arms and ammunition recovered from the armed intruders indicate Pakistan’s designs to orchestrate high profile terror incidents targeting innocent civilian population and security forces during the holy month of Ramadan,” the statement said.

Meanwhile, the J&K police on Saturday said that one civilian identified as Aarif Ahmed Dar was injured when militants targeted two Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP) vehicles with gunfire at Vesu along the Srinagar-Jammu highway at 5 am. The assailants, however, missed the intended target and instead the car being driven by the civilian behind the ITBP vehicles was hit in the gunfire. “About 20 empty cases of AK ammunition were found on the spot,” the police said.

Separately, the residents of Nadpora village in neighbouring Shopian district accused the Army of ransacking several houses and breaking windowpanes of these in reprisal to a stone-pelting incident. The locals said that some youth pelted stones on a patrol party of the Army moving on a road through Nadpora following which the troops detained one person identified as Ubaid nazir and also attacked the private properties.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/nati...ders-killed-in-last-96-hours-indian-army.html
 

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Times Now is reporting since morning that from 11 lauch pads, 60 militants are being pushed in into India.

Seems to me, far from learning from the blows we delivered Pak wants push in as many militants as possible during what is left of the summer of 2017.

If this kinda trickle becomes a flood we need to use airpower now to smash the launch pads and the training camps along with the posts that are aiding these infiltrations.

However parallely another thought crosses the mind and that is, how far will the Chinese go to protect their CPEC investments?

Would invite thoughts.
 

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Just a suggestion, Since the thread has already been derailed.
We all know that the thread will derail from time to time, so instead of cleaning to post. why dont the @mod move all the off-topic post to the garbage thread relating to off-topic discussion happened in this thread.
In that way some valuable info (off-topic as it may be) might be persevered instead of deleting it.

So others like me still can read it.
Just a thought,you can take it as a grain of salt.(pun intended) :biggrin2::biggrin2:
 

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Excuse me, Silly question since the thread has been derailed. Can someone tell me why Pakistani Army not tuck in their shirts, even the US Army does that while the soldiers of Indian Army always tuck in their shirts? Personally speaking, not tucked in looks unkempt.

Pakistan in 71
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Pakistan in 2017
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Is it because they turned from soldiers to Jihadis?
I believe what they wear now is called a "smock" designed to be worn over an undershirt with pockets for carrying stuff. Tucking it would be silly because it is basically a jacket.
 

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Seems to me, far from learning from the blows we delivered Pak wants push in as many militants as possible during what is left of the summer of 2017.
No doubt this is a part of the usual summer surge, when Napakis try and push in as many scum across the border. But one looks carefully, there's more to it than just that.

1. Napakis are anticipating some big cross border strikes like the ones 2-3 weeks ago when our Paras and Artillery razed their men and material to dust. To pre-empt this, they are carrying out "stock clearance", so to speak or use it or lose it.

2. GoI and IA are nicely moving along on solid and long term plan in J&K. It's not the loss of H&M divas that the Napakis fear, it's the NIA raids that are hitting the root of their terror financing scheme. Napakis are well aware that without money, the "movement" is all but dead. So the aim is to carry out a few more Uri and Pathankot like terror attacks, to pull the IA away from CI ops onto the LoC. Do remember that Napakis may have lost badly in Kargil, but it had the effect of giving a breather to terrorists inside J&K as army was pulled out of CI ops. Expect the Napakis to try and do more of the same, but this time using jihadis and artillery.

3. Bajwa visited LoC, every time he does that, Napakis launch another foolish cross-LoC op for echh&dee purposes. Do expect more of the same in the coming days.

4. Napakis are at a loss at how to deal with a pro-active GoI and IA, they are not used to it, their doctrine doesn't call for this. They are used to firing arty and getting mortar responses until authorised from above, which could take a while. Akshay Kapoor a member on BRF mentioned that how the PMO under MMS handed down explicit instructions "to not do pretty much anything" in retaliation to Napakis firing on the LoC. @Kunal Biswas can probably shed some light on this.

This is not to say that Napakis will not change, they are cunning and cowards, which means they need to adapt to survive. Do expect some new tactics over the coming days- more of grandma crossing the LoC, fisherman on the high seas type incidents.
 
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No doubt this is a part of the usual summer surge, when Napakis try and push in as many scum across the border. But one looks carefully, there's more to it than just that.

1. Napakis are anticipating some big cross border strikes like the ones 2-3 weeks ago when our Paras and Artillery razed their men and material to dust. To pre-empt this, they are carrying out "stock clearance", so to speak or use it or lose it.

2. GoI and IA are nicely moving along on solid and long term plan in J&K. It's not the loss of H&M divas that the Napakis fear, it's the NIA raids that are hitting the root of their terror financing scheme. Napakis are well aware that without money, the "movement" is all but dead. So the aim is to carry out a few more Uri and Pathankot like terror attacks, to pull the IA away from CI ops onto the LoC. Do remember that Napakis may have lost badly in Kargil, but it had the effect of giving a breather to terrorists inside J&K as army was pulled out of CI ops. Expect the Napakis to try and do more of the same, but this time using jihadis and artillery.

3. Bajwa visited LoC, every time he does that, Napakis launch another foolish cross-LoC op for echh&dee purposes. Do expect more of the same in the coming days.

4. Napakis are at a loss at how to deal with a pro-active GoI and IA, they are not used to it, their doctrine doesn't call for this. They are used to firing arty and getting mortar responses until authorised from above, which could take a while. Akshay Kapoor a member on BRF mentioned that how the PMO under MMS handed down explicit instructions "to not do pretty much anything" in retaliation to Napakis firing on the LoC. @Kunal Biswas can probably shed some light on this.

This is not to say that Napakis will not change, they are cunning and cowards, which means they need to adapt to survive. Do expect some new tactics over the coming days- more of grandma crossing the LoC, fisherman on the high seas type incidents.
i expect them to try to infiltrate more through punjab in the future. the deserts of gujarat and rajasthan make fedayeen attacks virtually impossible. theres a high cost attached to trying to cross IB from there. however, punjab remains porous, aided by drug mafia who will sell motherland to make a quick buck. i expect gurdaspur and pathankot to remain on high alert for next 2-3 months. the only problem I have with IA strategy is that they are not hitting the root cause of terror, which is pakistani punjab. until punitive strikes do not happen there, the pakjabis simply won't care. finish this once and for all. the country cannot handle another MMS type PM
 

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Times Now is reporting since morning that from 11 lauch pads, 60 militants are being pushed in into India.

Seems to me, far from learning from the blows we delivered Pak wants push in as many militants as possible during what is left of the summer of 2017.

If this kinda trickle becomes a flood we need to use airpower now to smash the launch pads and the training camps along with the posts that are aiding these infiltrations.

However parallely another thought crosses the mind and that is, how far will the Chinese go to protect their CPEC investments?

Would invite thoughts.
It is unfortunate that we seldom use all our assets like satellite reconnaissance from our sats like the CARTOSAT series and RISAT, even though CARTOSAT 2C is a military satellite with a resolution of 60cm. These images are first sent to the cabinet secretariat and do not filter down to the lowest formations in time.

This is possibly the reason why we are unable to hit terrorist training camps and launch pads with artillery due to lack of real time imagery to the lower formations. We did this successfully during the surgical strike, but it seems it's now back business as usual!
 
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