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They are so polite. Don't know if we should shoot them or salute them.WTF
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Chalo one thing is good now this Long tamasha will finally come to an end in two weeks time .50 days we waited lets wait for 15 more days.If these Chincoms don t fire a bullet even after two weeks then we should simply walk into POK and stop the CPEC and ask the porki s to get lost as their master is in no mood to fight ..
More than us the Porki Baghistani s will be praying to the almighty that china does something in two weeks .
More than us the Porki Baghistani s will be praying to the almighty that china does something in two weeks .
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Sikkim standoff: China should fear the brewing trade war, it has more at stake than India
BusinessDinesh UnnikrishnanAug, 04 2017 17:16:00 IST
The ongoing India-China military stand-off at Doka La may or may not escalate to an armed confrontation depending on the course of psychological warfare. But, for sure, a trade war is on between the two major economies. While the trade war wouldn’t augur well for economies of either side, China has evidently more to lose. Experts on Chinese side have already warned their government of an economic backlash if India becomes an enemy.
It is hard to miss the signs. Chinese dailies are already playing up the news that India has initiated 12 investigations against Chinese products in the first half of this year (read a reporthere ), even more than the 11 cases the US is pursuing against Chinese imported goods. “The Chinese government is highly concerned about New Delhi’s decision last week to investigate the Chinese products for dumping,” the report quoted Wang Hejun, the director general of the Chinese commerce ministry’s trade relief bureau.
Another report quoted the Global Times, a state-controlled daily in China, as saying ‘the list of Chinese products covered by India's trade remedy investigations is getting ever longer, expanding from garments, glass, minerals and other low-end items to advanced products such as new materials and machinery.’
Not just higher scrutiny, India is already taking steps to reduce dependence on Chinese imports to even critical segments, such as drug imports. A report in the Hindu Business Line(read here), says the Centre is working to reduce the Indian pharmaceutical industry’s dependence on Chinese raw material imports. India has also put on hold the $1.3-billion deal under which Chinese company Shanghai Fosun Pharmaceuticals was to take over Hyderabad-based Gland Pharma.
Representational image. AFP
These instances tell us a trade war is already on between India and China — both claim to be the nerve centres of manufacturing in the region. The downside of the trade relations will hit India. This isn’t an easy decision for India. As the Business Line report points out, China is the major supplier of raw materials for active pharmaceutical ingredients to India and in some cases, including life-savings drugs, the dependence is as high as 90 percent. It isn’t easy to stop these imports unless there is a mechanism in place.
But, looking at a larger picture, the economic impact of dwindling trade will not be too big for India as it doesn’t have much exposure to China except in certain specific segments. But China has much to lose. There are a few reasons for this:
First, China has been enjoying a thriving trade relation with India over the years. India has about $ 52 billion trade deficit with China. Last year, India exported about $9 billion worth of goods to China while China exported $60 billion to India. Chinese presence is evident in almost all sectors ranging from electronic items to pharmaceutical products. Chinese companies would not want to spoil the business opportunities the Indian market offers to them.
Second, an even bigger impact for China will be on the One Belt, One Road (OBOR) initiative. Antagonizing India could stall the progress of this ambitious Chinese project. China is well aware of this likely backlash. China has already invested heavily in this project. As noted in an earlier Firstpostpiece, China is in the midst of expanding its economic reach in South Asia through its much-hyped China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), which is critical to its OBOR plan.
A significant chunk of investments (at least $ 50 billion so far) have already gone into this project by Chinese companies. India has already expressed its displeasure to China on CPEC plan layout since it crosses through the contentious part of Kashmir, which is occupied by Pakistan and claimed by India. Some of its neighbors like Sri Lanka too have spoken in favour of India on this issue saying it is difficult for India to accept the CPEC since it passes through the 'heart of Indian interests'. China will further risk the fate of CPEC and OBOR if it escalates tensions as India can pave hurdles on the progress of OBOR.
Third, Chinese experts have already cautioned their government about the negative impact China will face in the Indian Ocean, where India has a dominant position. As this article in South China Morning Postnotes, China is heavily reliant on imported fuel and more than 80 percent of its oil imports travel via the Indian Ocean or Strait of Malacca. “India is strategically located at the heart of China’s energy lifeline and the ‘Belt and Road Initiative’, and offending India will only push it into the rival camp, which [Beijing believes] is scheming to contain China by blocking the Malacca Strait and the Indian Ocean,” the article quoted Macau-based military expert Antony Wong Dong as saying.
Fourth, India has much stronger diplomatic ties with US, Japan and a host of other countries than ever before. Making India an enemy would push China in the opposite camp and it will erode the gains it has been making as a peace-loving, matured country that aspires to become a world leader. Beijing wouldn’t want to gamble its hard-won image by prolonging the military stand-off with India. Also, it is set to host the 2017 BRICS meet in September where India is a member along with Brazil, Russia and South Africa. It will be a big embarrassment for the Chinese leaders to face an Indian delegation to talk on strengthening BRICS at a time when both countries are engaged in a trade war and likely military conflict.
Perhaps, China has even more reasons to put an end to this uneasy phase at the earliest than India has, the main among them, of course being the fate of its ambitious OBOR initiative.
http://www.firstpost.com/business/s...-it-has-more-at-stake-than-india-3893371.html
BusinessDinesh UnnikrishnanAug, 04 2017 17:16:00 IST
The ongoing India-China military stand-off at Doka La may or may not escalate to an armed confrontation depending on the course of psychological warfare. But, for sure, a trade war is on between the two major economies. While the trade war wouldn’t augur well for economies of either side, China has evidently more to lose. Experts on Chinese side have already warned their government of an economic backlash if India becomes an enemy.
It is hard to miss the signs. Chinese dailies are already playing up the news that India has initiated 12 investigations against Chinese products in the first half of this year (read a reporthere ), even more than the 11 cases the US is pursuing against Chinese imported goods. “The Chinese government is highly concerned about New Delhi’s decision last week to investigate the Chinese products for dumping,” the report quoted Wang Hejun, the director general of the Chinese commerce ministry’s trade relief bureau.
Another report quoted the Global Times, a state-controlled daily in China, as saying ‘the list of Chinese products covered by India's trade remedy investigations is getting ever longer, expanding from garments, glass, minerals and other low-end items to advanced products such as new materials and machinery.’
Not just higher scrutiny, India is already taking steps to reduce dependence on Chinese imports to even critical segments, such as drug imports. A report in the Hindu Business Line(read here), says the Centre is working to reduce the Indian pharmaceutical industry’s dependence on Chinese raw material imports. India has also put on hold the $1.3-billion deal under which Chinese company Shanghai Fosun Pharmaceuticals was to take over Hyderabad-based Gland Pharma.
Representational image. AFP
These instances tell us a trade war is already on between India and China — both claim to be the nerve centres of manufacturing in the region. The downside of the trade relations will hit India. This isn’t an easy decision for India. As the Business Line report points out, China is the major supplier of raw materials for active pharmaceutical ingredients to India and in some cases, including life-savings drugs, the dependence is as high as 90 percent. It isn’t easy to stop these imports unless there is a mechanism in place.
But, looking at a larger picture, the economic impact of dwindling trade will not be too big for India as it doesn’t have much exposure to China except in certain specific segments. But China has much to lose. There are a few reasons for this:
First, China has been enjoying a thriving trade relation with India over the years. India has about $ 52 billion trade deficit with China. Last year, India exported about $9 billion worth of goods to China while China exported $60 billion to India. Chinese presence is evident in almost all sectors ranging from electronic items to pharmaceutical products. Chinese companies would not want to spoil the business opportunities the Indian market offers to them.
Second, an even bigger impact for China will be on the One Belt, One Road (OBOR) initiative. Antagonizing India could stall the progress of this ambitious Chinese project. China is well aware of this likely backlash. China has already invested heavily in this project. As noted in an earlier Firstpostpiece, China is in the midst of expanding its economic reach in South Asia through its much-hyped China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), which is critical to its OBOR plan.
A significant chunk of investments (at least $ 50 billion so far) have already gone into this project by Chinese companies. India has already expressed its displeasure to China on CPEC plan layout since it crosses through the contentious part of Kashmir, which is occupied by Pakistan and claimed by India. Some of its neighbors like Sri Lanka too have spoken in favour of India on this issue saying it is difficult for India to accept the CPEC since it passes through the 'heart of Indian interests'. China will further risk the fate of CPEC and OBOR if it escalates tensions as India can pave hurdles on the progress of OBOR.
Third, Chinese experts have already cautioned their government about the negative impact China will face in the Indian Ocean, where India has a dominant position. As this article in South China Morning Postnotes, China is heavily reliant on imported fuel and more than 80 percent of its oil imports travel via the Indian Ocean or Strait of Malacca. “India is strategically located at the heart of China’s energy lifeline and the ‘Belt and Road Initiative’, and offending India will only push it into the rival camp, which [Beijing believes] is scheming to contain China by blocking the Malacca Strait and the Indian Ocean,” the article quoted Macau-based military expert Antony Wong Dong as saying.
Fourth, India has much stronger diplomatic ties with US, Japan and a host of other countries than ever before. Making India an enemy would push China in the opposite camp and it will erode the gains it has been making as a peace-loving, matured country that aspires to become a world leader. Beijing wouldn’t want to gamble its hard-won image by prolonging the military stand-off with India. Also, it is set to host the 2017 BRICS meet in September where India is a member along with Brazil, Russia and South Africa. It will be a big embarrassment for the Chinese leaders to face an Indian delegation to talk on strengthening BRICS at a time when both countries are engaged in a trade war and likely military conflict.
Perhaps, China has even more reasons to put an end to this uneasy phase at the earliest than India has, the main among them, of course being the fate of its ambitious OBOR initiative.
http://www.firstpost.com/business/s...-it-has-more-at-stake-than-india-3893371.html
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Two weeks?
Oh well they are telling the IA the time and place where they will come. That's amazing.
If they are keeping by their words that means IA should expect Chinese movement before one week.
Oh well they are telling the IA the time and place where they will come. That's amazing.
If they are keeping by their words that means IA should expect Chinese movement before one week.
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F*ck me - there's actually something called a "Pig Dragon"! Explains a lot...
From wiki: "There is some speculation that the pig dragon is the first representation of the Chinese dragon. The character for "dragon" in the earliest Chinese writing has a similar coiled form..."
From wiki: "There is some speculation that the pig dragon is the first representation of the Chinese dragon. The character for "dragon" in the earliest Chinese writing has a similar coiled form..."
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I'm just wondering if Pakistan will have the honour of innovating this word 'pig dragon' . Finally, langotiya yaars they are , Pak and Chin.
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Would make sense bhai, Pak has all the qualities to qualify as a Pig Dragon:I'm just wondering if Pakistan will have the honour of innovating this word 'pig dragon' . Finally, langotiya yaars they are , Pak and Chin.
"pig-like head and elongated limbless body coiled around to the head and described as 'suggestively fetal' (bacha)"
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All Chinese can do is to initiate the attack. But if they do on Independence day, then every Indian would be angry.
Do you remember the reaction of America after Pearl Harbor. Our response will be (atleast if not more) fierce. Even the dumbest of the dumb wouldn't advocate for attacking India on the Independence day.
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This post is to troll MGA, as he mentioned that India is compared to Elephants. He also mentioned what they can(destruction) do.
Any info(what kind of?) the guy who posted it.
Now coming to my deductions, elephant is free to think. Dragon may be fire breathing and with full of thorns, but it can't think. Dragon is to obeys CCP absent complaint. He never mentioned that mood of elephants can change at dramatic speed especially if you piss them off(one my kerala friend, they had elephant in his childhood. He used to explain what kind of rampage elephants would do especially during testosterone rise in them.)
The poster failed to understand this logic. Pchw, he might be a commie, so no logic.
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I'd say best reply to such a comparison between elephant and dragon is that,
Elephants exist and Dragons don't.
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its getting very hard for Chinese army as there base camp is 70km away from doklam ,ours is only 8 km . we have long experience in maintaining our soldiers in these kind of conditions due to pak, which Chinese dont have .
not tiger they are dragon.....paper dragon......we are tiger
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how the hell , pookitaan made pig a friend....
it is anti islam...
anyhow , they are more busy in sending indecent messages to ladies.....
and how conviently chinese censor the word pig.... ...
hy , what was that gabbar singh dialoge...
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India remains silent on China road plan
TNN | Updated: Aug 5, 2017, 06.23AM IST
APMEA spokesperson Gopal Baglay said he refused to get into details.
HIGHLIGHTS
On Friday, the foreign ministry refused to confirm or deny whether China had informed India in advance of its road-building project, and what India's response was.
On Thursday, senior officials of the Chinese embassy in New Delhi told some journalists that China had informed India of the road-building project in May.
Questioned, foreign ministry spokesperson Gopal Baglay said he refused to get into details. "I am not ready to go into details of diplomatic interactions. I am neither confirming nor denying, but just saying that I don't want to go into details," he said.
Addressing questions on war clouds, he quoted the foreign minister to say: "We will continue to engage the Chinese side through diplomatic channels on the basis of the Astana consensus between our leaders. We have on ea-rlier occasions referred to th-ese elements that diplomatic channels remain available."
China has asked whether Bhutan actually asked India for assistance. India is a security guarantor for Bhutan.
Baglay referred to the gov-ernment's June 30 statement and said: "It clearly mentions that in keeping with the tradition of maintaining close consultations on matters of mutual interests, government of Bhutan and government of India have been in continuous contact through the unfolding of these developments."
He added: "In coordination with the government of Bhutan, Indian personnel present at the general area of Doka Laapproached the Chinese construction party and urged them to desist from changing the status quo."
The government had told Parliament last week that it was in "constant communication with the government of Bhutan".
TNN | Updated: Aug 5, 2017, 06.23AM IST
HIGHLIGHTS
- The foreign ministry refused to confirm or deny whether China had informed India in advance of its road-building project, and what India's response was.
- Senior officials of the Chinese embassy in New Delhi told some journalists that China had informed India of the road-building project in May.
On Friday, the foreign ministry refused to confirm or deny whether China had informed India in advance of its road-building project, and what India's response was.
On Thursday, senior officials of the Chinese embassy in New Delhi told some journalists that China had informed India of the road-building project in May.
Questioned, foreign ministry spokesperson Gopal Baglay said he refused to get into details. "I am not ready to go into details of diplomatic interactions. I am neither confirming nor denying, but just saying that I don't want to go into details," he said.
Addressing questions on war clouds, he quoted the foreign minister to say: "We will continue to engage the Chinese side through diplomatic channels on the basis of the Astana consensus between our leaders. We have on ea-rlier occasions referred to th-ese elements that diplomatic channels remain available."
China has asked whether Bhutan actually asked India for assistance. India is a security guarantor for Bhutan.
Baglay referred to the gov-ernment's June 30 statement and said: "It clearly mentions that in keeping with the tradition of maintaining close consultations on matters of mutual interests, government of Bhutan and government of India have been in continuous contact through the unfolding of these developments."
He added: "In coordination with the government of Bhutan, Indian personnel present at the general area of Doka Laapproached the Chinese construction party and urged them to desist from changing the status quo."
The government had told Parliament last week that it was in "constant communication with the government of Bhutan".
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ok , lets inform them that we intended to build a road in tibet....India remains silent on China road plan
TNN | Updated: Aug 5, 2017, 06.23AM IST
APMEA spokesperson Gopal Baglay said he refused to get into details.
HIGHLIGHTS
NEW DELHI: India continues to hold its tongue even as China thunders away on Doklam.
- The foreign ministry refused to confirm or deny whether China had informed India in advance of its road-building project, and what India's response was.
- Senior officials of the Chinese embassy in New Delhi told some journalists that China had informed India of the road-building project in May.
On Friday, the foreign ministry refused to confirm or deny whether China had informed India in advance of its road-building project, and what India's response was.
On Thursday, senior officials of the Chinese embassy in New Delhi told some journalists that China had informed India of the road-building project in May.
Questioned, foreign ministry spokesperson Gopal Baglay said he refused to get into details. "I am not ready to go into details of diplomatic interactions. I am neither confirming nor denying, but just saying that I don't want to go into details," he said.
Addressing questions on war clouds, he quoted the foreign minister to say: "We will continue to engage the Chinese side through diplomatic channels on the basis of the Astana consensus between our leaders. We have on ea-rlier occasions referred to th-ese elements that diplomatic channels remain available."
China has asked whether Bhutan actually asked India for assistance. India is a security guarantor for Bhutan.
Baglay referred to the gov-ernment's June 30 statement and said: "It clearly mentions that in keeping with the tradition of maintaining close consultations on matters of mutual interests, government of Bhutan and government of India have been in continuous contact through the unfolding of these developments."
He added: "In coordination with the government of Bhutan, Indian personnel present at the general area of Doka Laapproached the Chinese construction party and urged them to desist from changing the status quo."
The government had told Parliament last week that it was in "constant communication with the government of Bhutan".
do they think , informing means approval ?
chinese , inplace should have shown the document of approval from indian side rather a latter of informing......
and why did they even think of informing india , had they think its their land .....
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As China been fixed on claiming that India is at Chinese land even it is not or you can say its unrectified boundaries.
We think it as Chinese arrogance and they blindly believe what they think.
If we cautiously observe there method being followed. They are trying to prove that they are the victim of India's aggression. There firing words without a bullet towards India trying to prove to the world that China is proposing to prove a point that they been quite for months before China took military actions.
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We think it as Chinese arrogance and they blindly believe what they think.
If we cautiously observe there method being followed. They are trying to prove that they are the victim of India's aggression. There firing words without a bullet towards India trying to prove to the world that China is proposing to prove a point that they been quite for months before China took military actions.
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