LCA TEJAS MK1 & MK1A: News and Discussion

[ManhattanProject]

IAF is struggling to maintain their current squadrons and still dreaming about imports, meanwhile China is rapidly expanding their capability.

 

[UnderFingy]

Can someone link any article/video about the indigenous EW suite, please?

 

[Vaibhavseafarer]

But we're dependent on Uncle Sam anyway na. Entire LCA fleet, Planned Mk2, AMCA Mk1, Apaches, Chinooks, P8Is - all have American dependence

Engines are last piece of chessboard for us.
As far as I know we have or working on all other fighter jet technology.

 

[Roland55]

Engines are last piece of chessboard for us.
As far as I know we have or working on all other fighter jet technology.

Sadly engine development is not as easy, look at china, they had the WS-10 since the 90s, and it only recently was seen in full scale production and use. Depending on uncle sam for like 10/20 more years won't really be a problem, at least if in that time a proper engine can be sorted out.

 

[ManhattanProject]

Sadly engine development is not as easy, look at china, they had the WS-10 since the 90s, and it only recently was seen in full scale production and use. Depending on uncle sam for like 10/20 more years won't really be a problem, at least if in that time a proper engine can be sorted out.

Whats needed is money, you throw enough money at it and it will be done.

 

[Tactical Doge]

 

[flanker99]

Hamara tejas updates first 2 trainers are under production.

 

[FalconZero]

Episode 3 of "Hamara Tejas"

Though the contents are a bit less still this particular episode gives a glimpse at how difficult it was to start a program like this years ago, sanctions and now what we have achieved.

From having no indigenous aircraft to test (components) to now having a whole new division where IAF pilots are directly acting as part of ADA ensuring direct user feedback, a semi-matured platform, production in the form of Tejas Mk1 we now have the basics ready and now are at point where Dr. Kota feels that AMCA, UCAV etc. all can be build in house. With experience and a structured organisation, we are more ready than ever before.

Also, few highlights,

>Around 19:47, Dr. Kota confirms that MWF is actually ready and going through the final review.

>At the end part of the video AKM confirms that trainer production has begun, with trainer SPT01 at LCA division and SPT02 at aircraft division.


OT, but Dr. Kota's comment also emphasises why we need some sort of testbed, indigenous one, for Kaveri or any indigenous engine rather than sending it to the Russia every time we have to test it.

 

[Vaibhavseafarer]

Tejas program is a benchmark to us no doubt.
It was hard and it taught us so many things.
And seems like MRFA is going to be the last foreign contract.
We are going to be self reliant
Yeah Engine is last piece which we will get in next 15 years.

 

[vishnugupt]

This MRFA/MMRCA is just a wet dream eventually UNAF will wake up with a bad reality. But still, UNAF is persuing this wet dream which shows how inefficient UNAF is in planning, vision and totally lacks wisdom.

114 wet dreams including "Indian specific requirements" will cost more than 30 billion dollars and that too will be delivered by 2035. The contender will most likely be either Rafale or F-21 and both will offer nothing in terms of "Technology transfer". Moreover, 30 billion money if used wisely, can fix the whole problems which the Armed forces are facing today.

What UNAF is doing by crying for an MRFA is just prolonging their suffering and misery for another decade. Don't forget UNAF is in a deep mess because of their past misplaced requirements and tantrums but they have learned nothing still repeating the same mistake which will lead to them in a bigger mess in the future for sure.

Tejas Mk2 is the only solution. Lies and drama of UNAF wouldn't hide the truth that Tejas Mk2 will be a far better Jet than Rafale or F-21 junk or F-15Ex. Any amount of stupid opinion can not mask this fact even if one wants to compare in Range, payload, or sensors.

UNAF must commit 300 Tejas mk2 today with more future options otherwise we all will notice the intensity/frequency of crying will increase day by day while no solution on the horizon.

 

[ManhattanProject]

This MRFA/MMRCA is just a wet dream eventually UNAF will wake up with a bad reality. But still, UNAF is persuing this wet dream which shows how inefficient UNAF is in planning, vision and totally lacks wisdom.

114 wet dreams including "Indian specific requirements" will cost more than 30 billion dollars and that too will be delivered by 2035. The contender will most likely be either Rafale or F-21 and both will offer nothing in terms of "Technology transfer". Moreover, 30 billion money if used wisely, can fix the whole problems which the Armed forces are facing today.

What UNAF is doing by crying for an MRFA is just prolonging their suffering and misery for another decade. Don't forget UNAF is in a deep mess because of their past misplaced requirements and tantrums but they have learned nothing still repeating the same mistake which will lead to them in a bigger mess in the future for sure.

Tejas Mk2 is the only solution. Lies and drama of UNAF wouldn't hide the truth that Tejas Mk2 will be a far better Jet than Rafale or F-21 junk or F-15Ex. Any amount of stupid opinion can not mask this fact even if one wants to compare in Range, payload, or sensors.

UNAF must commit 300 Tejas mk2 today with more future options otherwise we all will notice the intensity/frequency of crying will increase day by day while no solution on the horizon.

They want to win a war against china with borrowed imported weapons..

 

[Marliii]

This MRFA/MMRCA is just a wet dream eventually UNAF will wake up with a bad reality. But still, UNAF is persuing this wet dream which shows how inefficient UNAF is in planning, vision and totally lacks wisdom.

114 wet dreams including "Indian specific requirements" will cost more than 30 billion dollars and that too will be delivered by 2035. The contender will most likely be either Rafale or F-21 and both will offer nothing in terms of "Technology transfer". Moreover, 30 billion money if used wisely, can fix the whole problems which the Armed forces are facing today.

What UNAF is doing by crying for an MRFA is just prolonging their suffering and misery for another decade. Don't forget UNAF is in a deep mess because of their past misplaced requirements and tantrums but they have learned nothing still repeating the same mistake which will lead to them in a bigger mess in the future for sure.

Tejas Mk2 is the only solution. Lies and drama of UNAF wouldn't hide the truth that Tejas Mk2 will be a far better Jet than Rafale or F-21 junk or F-15Ex. Any amount of stupid opinion can not mask this fact even if one wants to compare in Range, payload, or sensors.

UNAF must commit 300 Tejas mk2 today with more future options otherwise we all will notice the intensity/frequency of crying will increase day by day while no solution on the horizon.

You know that they haven't bought any jet in that no.s in indian air force history?the su30s are only 272 in no.we need more rafales and tejus mk2 in numbers.air force hasn't even given guarantee for buying 200 AMCA ,so they giving guarantee for 300 Tejus mk2 is a wet dream.

 

[vishnugupt]

You know that they haven't bought any jet in that no.s in indian air force history?the su30s are only 272 in no.we need more rafales and tejus mk2 in numbers.air force hasn't even given guarantee for buying 200 AMCA ,so they giving guarantee for 300 Tejus mk2 is a wet dream.

History?? check, how many Mig21 were inducted by UNAF.

They want to win a war against china with borrowed imported weapons..

True... China is not a some kind of disease that will come and go. China will remain there so India needs to stand on its feet.

 

[Brood Father]

If news of IAF dropping Tejas MK2 is true then IAF had learnt zilch from it's past experience
I don't understand jumping to 5 gen without demonstrating 4th gen capabilities ..
Tejas MK2 is a necessity .hope better sense prevails .

 

[Covfefe]

If news of IAF dropping Tejas MK2 is true then IAF had learnt zilch from it's past experience
I don't understand jumping to 5 gen without demonstrating 4th gen capabilities ..
Tejas MK2 is a necessity .hope better sense prevails .

Lobby prevails
But anyway, they'll get a max of 36-54 Rafales no matter how hard the current AF Chief pushes. Chief will retire in sometime, Babus stay. Tejas Mk2 will also have to be kinda imposed on them like Tejas Mk1

 

[UnderFingy]

If news of IAF dropping Tejas MK2 is true then IAF had learnt zilch from it's past experience
I don't understand jumping to 5 gen without demonstrating 4th gen capabilities ..
Tejas MK2 is a necessity .hope better sense prevails .

Time-stamped. Looks like AF is involved with mk2. We're probably overthinking this. The government has put so much into mk2 development. I don't think they'd let it go to waste. If they do, they're wasting taxpayers money.

 

[Marliii]

History?? check, how many Mig21 were inducted by UNAF.



True... China is not a some kind of disease that will come and go. China will remain there so India needs to stand on its feet.

That wasn't in a one go that was different versions of the mig 21. And still we cant replace them .

 

[Abdus Salem killed]

If news of IAF dropping Tejas MK2 is true then IAF had learnt zilch from it's past experience
I don't understand jumping to 5 gen without demonstrating 4th gen capabilities ..
Tejas MK2 is a necessity .hope better sense prevails .

Any source for thsi that tejas mk2 is being dropped

 

[ezsasa]

If news of IAF dropping Tejas MK2 is true then IAF had learnt zilch from it's past experience
I don't understand jumping to 5 gen without demonstrating 4th gen capabilities ..

sirji, don’t start a new controversy.

Adding an “If” doesn’t stop people from reading this the way they want to read this.

Yes yes, I know you didn’t start this per se.

 

[Brood Father]

Any source for thsi that tejas mk2 is being dropped

The recent interview by the Air chief ..he mentions all the induction plan (including 12 Su 30) but no where mentions MK2.