All those mirages are of different types and too old. Not gonna happen.
That's nlca .
Additional mig29/ su30mki are definitely coming.
It is too late to produce more Mk1's, isn't it?
You joined 4 months back
I was arguing that on another site with quite a few Indian contributors.
Oh then yes.
How long before the MiG-29's are delivered to the IAF? I recall reading that they have been in storage for years. Have the airframes deteriorated, needing extra work?
Not much , and not long enough they were made some 2 3 years back
You think Deaths matter to Babus, they don't give a flying Fuk as long as they get their pockets filled, gripen lobby, m777 lobby, what the fuck ever lobbyIs this true - 58 MiG-21's crashed 2003 to now?
I am very surprised that GOI did not make Tejas production a real priority (invest to get production capacity up then insist that aircraft actually get built - heads of failing personnel rolling where required). Training pilots and then putting them in aircraft much more likely to crash (quite a few MiG-21 crashes versus zero Tejas crashes) when a lot more Tejas could have been produced in the last 10 years makes no sense to me. It seems to me that the inertia of GOI has resulted in numerous avoidable pilot deaths.
And that's the reason for our enormous hate for previous government , they just freezed everything , under 1999 -2004 government of atal ji , we saw tehas fly and it was all set to be inducted but , government change froze it , it gained momentum under late manohar parrikar , a person who can't be hated , he gave us rafale deal and tejas roadblock clearance .Is this true - 58 MiG-21's crashed 2003 to now?
I am very surprised that GOI did not make Tejas production a real priority (invest to get production capacity up then insist that aircraft actually get built - heads of failing personnel rolling where required). Training pilots and then putting them in aircraft much more likely to crash (quite a few MiG-21 crashes versus zero Tejas crashes) when a lot more Tejas could have been produced in the last 10 years makes no sense to me. It seems to me that the inertia of GOI has resulted in numerous avoidable pilot deaths.
It's surprising that Mig claimed that they managed to have 'only 21" spare airframe, I thought they probably have 100s of them which was cancelled midway during breaking up of USSR.
Mig may have more airframe. IAF team visited the place and found 21 airframe which are in robust condition and fit for upgrade. So 21 is what we are procuring.
I think IAF squad size used to be 18 for frontline ones.....lot of frames in Russia were exposed to elements during 90's and 2000's and some were sold to countries like BD....why not go for mig-35 if we are desperate for numbers and try to get it at the same cost?
The airframe were stored as soon as they were build . 21 we selected are in robust condition.
Heard that Mig 35 is too expensive for a medium weight fighter and Mig 29 m2/smt could very well do 80% of its job in much lesser price.
Ya, no one really knows how much of mig-35 program is mud slinging but evidently host country has not enthusiastically adopted this fighter in numbers yet but I don't think we should buy 2nd hand exposed frames unless its real emergency for IAF.....mig-35 is same as mig-29 aero wise with difference in avionics and performance and some other things like radar....
As Indian hawk said, those 21 are best of the bunch, so they must be in good enough condition to be upgraded.
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