LCA TEJAS MK1 & MK1A: News and Discussion

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Can we get a comparison... Evaluation...
Although when comparing mk1 and and fa-50 variant most specifications regarding avionics are same(do correct me if i am wrong here)...but when compared with mk1a tejas will be getting better (AESA) radar, EWpod, have a helmet mounted display, air-to-air refueling capability and add astra mk2 in package tejas bvraam capabilities will be better as fa-50 still doesn't have a bvraam capabilities as of now
 

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Mig 29 k naval may soon deployed on iac1... Better not count that.... Still we are 10 sqds shorter than our minimum need....
Not counting that for airforce. But from 25 onwards we will be getting one sqd every year from production line. The only way to make up for number is increased quality of existing platform with upgrades, tankers and new AWACS joining in.
 

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Malaysia prefers twin seater jets, especially for light attack fighter.. So chances are the new trainer line will be used (may have been built for that only, otherwise our trsiner-jets aren't supposed to come for another 2 years).

Bangladesh and Myanmar have military tensions????
Severe..
 

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Says the guys wants india to buy "90 Rafael, 126 F15EX, 126 Grippen".. If you say retarded stuff you'll get called out. 🤷‍♂️
Don't mind bro... I do get lot information from u about aerodynamics ... You are one if the few members who seems knowledgeable... I am not saying buy all.. That's a sarcasm.. But we have to be serious about our own needs first instead pushing for export.... Tejas series will ve our backbone still we r able to produce and induct mk2 in IAF... Till then have to buy some foreign maal to fill the ever depleting IAF strength...
 

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Don't mind bro... I do get lot information from u about aerodynamics ... You are one if the few members who seems knowledgeable... I am not saying buy all.. That's a sarcasm.. But we have to be serious about our own needs first instead pushing for export.... Tejas series will ve our backbone still we r able to produce and induct mk2 in IAF... Till then have to buy some foreign maal to fill the ever depleting IAF strength...
The zoo-IAF will last another 20 years. Post which LCA, MWF, AMCA (even TEDBF) will have significant commonality to some degree.
 

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What @Ashok84 want is only look good in imagination. if those expensive deals go through they going to break the backbone of the nation.(1989 TIME)We all know what happened after this.View attachment 83859
As per you we should deal enemies with chip weapons.????..Not with foreighn weapons and systems ....where our more than 70 percent equipment still foreign origin...India of 1989 1bdollar economy should not be compared with 3 tr dollar economy of 2021...
 

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India won all wars with almost all imported weapons but there must be a limit of how much you want to import expensive weapons in short time frame. I can understand what you are saying India should have best weapon available to her armed Forces however importing is not the future anymore. India have no choice but to build a world class MIC and Tejas is just the start we have to swallow the bitter pill right now we can not waste more time.
 

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Some news missed by DFIans..

HAL planning to set up bases in four countries to push exports
Mar, 2020

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HAL is considering to build logistics bases in Malaysia, Vietnam, Indonesia and Sri Lanka.

New Delhi: State-run aerospace behemoth Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) is looking at setting up logistics bases in Malaysia, Vietnam, Indonesia and Sri Lanka as part of initiatives to woo the countries to buy India's light combat aircraft Tejas and military helicopters. Chairman and Managing Director of HAL R Madhavan said the HAL is considering to build logistics bases in the four countries as they use a number of Russian-origin military aircraft and choppers whose serviceability is "very poor".

He said the HAL is now seriously focusing on boosting exports in sync with the government's priority and identified South East Asia, West Asia and North Africa to sell key platforms like Tejas, attack helicopter Rudra and advanced light helicopter Dhruv.

Last month, Prime Minister Narendra Modi has set an ambitious defence export target of USD 5 billion dollars in the next five years and asked all the key military manufacturers to work hard to achieve the target.

"We are looking at setting up maintenance facilities in Malaysia, Vietnam, Indonesia, Sri Lanka. We can give them a lot of support to as these countries use lot of platforms which are common to India, and their serviceability is very poor," he told .

The HAL top executive said the company is looking at setting up maintenance facilities in these four countries as having logistics bases is key to sell the products and ensure after-sales services.

Without divulging details, Madhavan said a number of countries in West Asia are also in touch with the HAL for possible procurement of its key products.
"We now are looking at exports very seriously. A sizeable number of countries are showing lots of interests in the platforms we are producing as they are world class. We are in talks with so many countries," said the HAL chief.

Specifically, he said that Tejas has a "very good" export potential as it is a four-and-half generation fighter jet which can compete with some of the famous military jets in its class.


The Tejas has been Developed by Aeronautical Development Agency and the HAL. The lifespan of the jet would be a minimum of 30 years just like any other frontline combat aircraft.

The combat jets are classified under various generations depending on their avionics, capability and weapons systems. The current fleet of fighter jets with the IAF range from three-and-half generation to the fourth generation.

The Indian Air Force has already placed an order for 40 Tejas and is likely to seal a contract "very soon" with HAL for another 83 aircraft at a cost of around Rs 38,000 crore.

India is one of the largest importers of arms and military platforms globally. The government has been focusing significantly on promoting defence indigenisation by taking a slew of reform initiatives including liberalising FDI in defence sector.
India Plans Various Overseas Bases Across Asia For HAL Tejas Fighter Jets
March 1, 2021
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ByEurAsian Times Desk

India’s homegrown Tejas fighter jets are participating in the Sri Lankan Air Force’s aerobatic show amid speculation that the state-run Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) might set up a logistics base in the island nation.

Indian High Commission in Colombo has said Sri Lanka is “Priority One” partner for India in the defense sphere. Earlier, National Security Advisor Ajit Doval, during his visit to Colombo for a trilateral Maritime Security Cooperation talks, had reiterated India’s fullest cooperation in the field of defense and security.

HAL To Set Up Overseas Logistics Bases
Last year, there were reports saying the state-owned HAL was looking to set up bases in Malaysia, Vietnam, Indonesia, and Sri Lanka as part of its efforts to sell Tejas and military helicopters.

The company’s chairman and managing director R Madhavan was quoted as saying by The Economic Times that HAL was focusing on boosting exports in sync with the government’s priority.

He said that there are other countries in West Asia which too were in touch with the HAL for procurement of key products. According to Madavan, Tejas has a good export potential as it is a four-and-half generation fighter jet. Developed by Aeronautical Development Agency and the HAL, Tejas has a lifespan of 30 years, like any other frontline combat aircraft.

A single-engine fourth-generation, multirole light fighter, Tejas is an outcome of the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) program which began in the 1980s to replace India’s aging MiG-21 fighters. After Marut, Tejas is HAL’s second supersonic fighter.

Tejas would become frontline fighter jets for Indian Air Force as an order for 40 jets have been placed and a contract for another 83 would be sealed soon for a cost of around Rs 38,000 crore.
 

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Please

When nearly all FOC aircraft have been delivered (freeing up assembly line space), does Mk1A assembly start?
What is the status on the 4 x IOC and 4 x FOC 2-seaters?
 

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Please

When nearly all FOC aircraft have been delivered (freeing up assembly line space), does Mk1A assembly start?
What is the status on the 4 x IOC and 4 x FOC 2-seaters?
1. Likely assumption, yes.

2. There's a seperate line for trainers that can do 6 per year. I'm expecting the trainers & export LOFT to roll out of there.
 

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I read in this article...


...that Malaysia had retired its MiG-29's. Any chance of India taking them in part payment for a few Mk1A's? It sounds like Malaysia has insufficient funds to maintain its existing inventory - scrapped a Hawk upgrade, retired all their Sikorski S-61's - let alone enough funds to pay for 36 new light fighters. How many light fighters is a practical minimum? Would a dozen be enough?
 

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Although when comparing mk1 and and fa-50 variant most specifications regarding avionics are same(do correct me if i am wrong here)...but when compared with mk1a tejas will be getting better (AESA) radar, EWpod, have a helmet mounted display, air-to-air refueling capability and add astra mk2 in package tejas bvraam capabilities will be better as fa-50 still doesn't have a bvraam capabilities as of now
No Even MK1 is far better than Fa-50
 

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I read in this article...


...that Malaysia had retired its MiG-29's. Any chance of India taking them in part payment for a few Mk1A's? It sounds like Malaysia has insufficient funds to maintain its existing inventory - scrapped a Hawk upgrade, retired all their Sikorski S-61's - let alone enough funds to pay for 36 new light fighters. How many light fighters is a practical minimum? Would a dozen be enough?
It's upto them , they can pay in palm oil for our fmgc industry ,for context ,we are setting up new units for food processing to increase rural income , so nice choice , india may acquire mig 29 , for spares and all , well Malaysia once under mahatir sided with porkistan, relations with them will help in keeping bitch in place .

Atleast we may grow some influence , this may open avenue for export , Singapore too want to buy some liggt plane , as we are already planning a twin seater mothership tejas for loyal wingman , they might go for mk 2 with their ucav linked to it .
 

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It's upto them , they can pay in palm oil for our fmgc industry ,for context ,we are setting up new units for food processing to increase rural income , so nice choice , india may acquire mig 29 , for spares and all...
That sounds promising. I wonder also if spares, ancilliary equipment, training etc would be more competitively priced for Tejas.
 

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That sounds promising. I wonder also if spares, ancilliary equipment, training etc would be more competitively priced for Tejas.
This us our first export attempt ,hal is compromising profit for market and globsl image , we have bigger plan , have to sacrifice some extra bucks but we can be the much needed intermediary between expensive west , low quality export choyna and heavy category russia .
 

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