LCA TEJAS MK1 & MK1A: News and Discussion

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That’s what I am saying unfortunately we don’t have funds for everything so we should focus on one thing and move step by step taking small steps
we should follow the Iranian model they are focused on engine development and despite being much smaller than India and resource constrained country with negligible experience in Engine tech (compared to India) they’re close to develop a working turbofan engine
Iran is more into producing low end/ineffecient versions of strategic weapons, revealing license built/tech transfered copies and all that for more of a purpose of PR than actual substance. Anyone aware of Iran's standing in R&D wouldn't be giving its example in any kind if project.
 

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Iran is more into producing low end/ineffecient versions of strategic weapons, revealing license built/tech transfered copies and all that for more of a purpose of PR than actual substance. Anyone aware of Iran's standing in R&D wouldn't be giving its example in any kind if project.
PR is also important, and India should have focused on developing a low end product before jumping to High end products
 
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PR is also important, and India should have focused on developing a low end product before jumping to High end products
Iranian approach isn't like "developing" low end. The entire purpose to create a working mock up, sufficient for use. India's projects don't run with sufficient for use in mind. They have to be superior to requirements given by armed forces.

PR holds importance here for those only who are more interested in publicity than substance.
 

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Iranian approach isn't like "developing" low end. The entire purpose to create a working mock up, sufficient for use. India's projects don't run with sufficient for use in mind. They have to be superior to requirements given by armed forces.

PR holds importance here for those only who are more interested in publicity than substance.
Both publicity and substance are important
Tejas is a very good Aircraft but foreign lobby tried to kill it by doing negative publicity against it
 

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Tejas is a very good Aircraft but foreign lobby tried to kill it by doing negative publicity against it
Nah... Public opinion neans nothing. Tejas hadn't even competed in many of the the minor fighter jet deals that took place in recent years. No amount of publicity would make up for that.

Just as no amount of this information would make up for beating competition & winning tenders.
 

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Our approach was wrong from the beginning
we should either have simply imported the engine and develop an aircraft around it or simply master the engine technology first and develop an aircraft later
 
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Both publicity and substance are important
Tejas is a very good Aircraft but foreign lobby tried to kill it by doing negative publicity against it
It again has nothing to do with Iranian context who can't even purchase equivalent foreign aircrafts. Iran's PR is about showing major countries that it is also something, although Iran is nothing in R&D and such prototypes would be rejected in early stages for any other country.
We may stop it here.
 

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Only one FOC Tejas has been delivered to IAF ?
By this speed they will complete the order in next 100 years
Dassault delivered 5 rafales and the next 5 are about to be delivered they will deliver all the 36 aircraft by 2021
 

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Hope so....,.
Bdw the issue with sp22 is not known....but
Sp5 had a late flight due to issues...
From the article:
"The target is to produce eight aircrafts by end of this FY..."

As you see, chatter info can be surprisingly accurate if you can filter it well. So, I can't ignore the claims of some modifications.
Let's wait & see if something is announced.
 

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The F-16 uses a trick to increase its hardpoint carriage weight. It lowers the aircraft's G-limit to around 2Gs in order to carry heavier fuel tanks: Once the external fuel tanks are emptied or dropped, the aircraft regains its full G capability. I've been wondering if the same is being done for the Tejas to increase its external fuel tank size on long range missions. It would be easier to do due to the digital fly by wire. Then there is the option of making a larger semi-conformal tank for the centerline hardpoint.
 

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Having a huge defence budget doesn’t necessarily mean a country Will have a huge millitary industrial complex
Saudi Arabia has huge defence budget but they have zero local production of millitary equipments
 

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The F-16 uses a trick to increase its hardpoint carriage weight. It lowers the aircraft's G-limit to around 2Gs in order to carry heavier fuel tanks: Once the external fuel tanks are emptied or dropped, the aircraft regains its full G capability. I've been wondering if the same is being done for the Tejas to increase its external fuel tank size on long range missions.
The amount of Gs that can be achieved by a jet is lowered with the payload... Non-TVC jets simply can't turn hard enough to induce more than 2-3G at full load.
Is not some smart trick. It's physics.

Tejas has 1200lt & 800lt tanks available, a drag optimised 1360lt one is not yet cleared.
 

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The amount of Gs that can be achieved by a jet is lowered with the payload... Non-TVC jets simply can't turn hard enough to induce more than 2-3G at full load.
Is not some smart trick. It's physics.

Tejas has 1200lt & 800lt tanks available, a drag optimised 1360lt one is not yet cleared.
How many Gs can the Tejas pull with maximum external fuel load, because I was under the impression that it was more than 2 Gs?
 

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