LCA TEJAS MK1 & MK1A: News and Discussion

[ARVION]

BSDK Meteor, Astra mk1, mk2, sfdr, AIM 120d, these Missiles can be easily integrated with Griepen

Sorry to say but joker gone the wrong way Astra's and sfdr to interagte sorry but check your info again .

 

[Shekhar Singh]

BSDK Meteor, Astra mk1, mk2, sfdr, AIM 120d, these Missiles can be easily integrated with Griepen

Wow! what a great deal for Sweden. Now they should buy Astra Mk1, mk2 and sfdr for gripen. Lol

 

[ARVION]

Wow! what a great deal for Sweden. Now they should buy Astra Mk1, mk2 and sfdr for gripen. Lol

Then why not integrate the MRBM's into the grip even better ICBM's sorry but this joker need a peace full mediations.

 

[Shekhar Singh]

Then why not integrate the MRBM's into the grip even better ICBM's sorry but this joker need a peace full mediations.

Let him post few more. He will ask for Prithvi, Pralay, K4 and Agni to be integrated on Tejas. Maze lete raho uske.

 

[Tumba]

Yes. They would allow it. If they don't want to do that, they would have directly asked HAL to go for US or France RADAR.
A missile is as good as the RADAR to pass on the information to it. In case of Elta, for Meteor integration, the source code would have to be provided to Israel which is a real concern for France. But if we use Uttam, those source code would be with us.

For integration no two modular systems need source code of each other this is incorrect information if published anywhere...

Fighter planes has a central unit which is responsible for execution of all interfacing between any two system for data exchanges between them,
If India has its own mission control system or central unit even if both radar and missiles are from different sources with no source code known only thing required is which is provided with any purchase is interface software data in-out entities ...

of-course if one has source code one can do many improvements in the source code...
but not required for integration purposes.
In Su-30 MKI III India has own mission control system so India can integrate any missile provided seller agrees missile to be used in Russian system.

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

Sorry to say but joker gone the wrong way Astra's and sfdr to interagte sorry but check your info again .

If India buys Griepen then Astra and SFDR can be integrated

 

[ARVION]

If India buys Griepen then Astra and SFDR can be integrated

What we need is to increase the production and orders for LCA Teja's .

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

Tejas can integrate Brahmos gripens can’t even rafales cannot integrate Brahmos but they can integrate scalp which Tejas cannot

 

[ARVION]

Tejas can integrate Brahmos gripens can’t even rafales cannot integrate Brahmos but they can integrate scalp which Tejas cannot

It is not just about integration .

 

[Assassin 2.0]

If India has its own mission control system or central unit even if both radar and missiles are from different sources with no source code known only thing required is which is provided with any purchase is interface software data in-out entities

India have it's own mission computer in tejas
Open Architecture Computer (OAC) designed and developed by ADA, combines the functions of earlier mission computer, display processor, video switching unit, mission preparation and retrieval unit. It is designed based on open system interfaces standards, which provides interoperability, scalability, and portability.

Open Architecture Computer for Avionics - Technology | Tejas - India's Light Combat Aircraft

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MBD Claims that because of non European radad proprietary data link cannot be established with aircraft.

MISSILE DATA LINK APPLICATIONS
Man-In-The-Loop (MITL)
Mission abort
Eyes on target
Transmission of surveillance information (en-route recce)
SOFTWARE FEATURES
Customer- and application-specific waveforms (e.g. single- or multi-carrier)
Rapid waveform development by system-driven design
Robust synchronization at supersonic speeds (Mach 3 and beyond)
Scalable channel bandwidth and data-rate
Powerful error-correction
Optional payload data encryption
And this system was specially developed for the Meteor

Universal Miniaturized Missile Data-Link - MBDA

The UMMD is a fully customizable MBDA software that defines radio solution for missiles.

www.mbda-systems.com

 

[Assassin 2.0]

Su-30 MKI III India has own mission control system so India can integrate any missile provided seller agrees missile to be used in Russian system

Yes we have integrated bhramos on our own and have made isreali system work with MKi because of mission computer. And we can also integrate i-derby on it
But the case is little tricky with meteor as it's one of the kind missile.

 

[VIP]

I wish if Tejas could carry Meteors because we already bought Rafales and Meteors from France so why Tejas shouldn’t be able to integrate it as well Tejas can carry Meteors once it gets fitted with our indigenous UTTAM AESA Radars (hopefully) and i doubt US would allow us to use Tejas against Pakistan as long as it flies with American engines US suppled AIM-120C Missiles to Pakistan only to counter IAF there was no other reason to supply air to air missiles to Pakistan

Why would US have a say if we use Tejas or not? Do you think by providing AIM120 to pak, they will stop us from flying tejas? What absurd thinking is this! We have deployed Mig21 against F16 and also destroyed one f16 so stop this nonsense. We will have Astra Mk2 and in future mk3 which will be as par with meteor.

 

[Tumba]

India have it's own mission computer in tejas
Open Architecture Computer (OAC) designed and developed by ADA, combines the functions of earlier mission computer, display processor, video switching unit, mission preparation and retrieval unit. It is designed based on open system interfaces standards, which provides interoperability, scalability, and portability.

Open Architecture Computer for Avionics - Technology | Tejas - India's Light Combat Aircraft

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MBD Claims that because of non European radad proprietary data link cannot be established with aircraft.

MISSILE DATA LINK APPLICATIONS
Man-In-The-Loop (MITL)
Mission abort
Eyes on target
Transmission of surveillance information (en-route recce)
SOFTWARE FEATURES
Customer- and application-specific waveforms (e.g. single- or multi-carrier)
Rapid waveform development by system-driven design
Robust synchronization at supersonic speeds (Mach 3 and beyond)
Scalable channel bandwidth and data-rate
Powerful error-correction
Optional payload data encryption
And this system was specially developed for the Meteor

Universal Miniaturized Missile Data-Link - MBDA

The UMMD is a fully customizable MBDA software that defines radio solution for missiles.

www.mbda-systems.com

Data Link is basically for networking ur systems.. its not necessarily needed for integration between aircraft systems it might be related to Meteor‘s capabilities to pair with exo systems ...

 

[VIP]

BSDK Meteor, Astra mk1, mk2, sfdr, AIM 120d, these Missiles can be easily integrated with Griepen

Tereko kahi gripen dikh raha hai aaspas? To fir kya bawasir macha rakha hai.

 

[Abhay Rajput 02]

Tejas can integrate Brahmos gripens can’t even rafales cannot integrate Brahmos but they can integrate scalp which Tejas cannot

Rafale can and will integrate brahmos missile, astra , DRDO indigenous bombs etc in 2023. But Brahmos will be NG version which is lighter than current version

 

[Abhay Rajput 02]

Yes we have integrated bhramos on our own and have made isreali system work with MKi because of mission computer. And we can also integrate i-derby on it
But the case is little tricky with meteor as it's one of the kind missile.

Yes we can definitely integrate I Derby er missiles but Russians will be very pissed off if we did. Also astra is quite fine missile and newer Russian missile are also nice , I guess that's why IAF has only ordered only 250 astra missile.

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

Why would US have a say if we use Tejas or not? Do you think by providing AIM120 to pak, they will stop us from flying tejas? What absurd thinking is this! We have deployed Mig21 against F16 and also destroyed one f16 so stop this nonsense. We will have Astra Mk2 and in future mk3 which will be as par with meteor.

Because Tejas has American GE F404 engines Mig21 was entirely Russian

 

[ARVION]

Competitive private industry gives an opportunity for HAL to evolve - Defence News India

A/The order for the first 40 aircraft is categorised into two tranches of 20 each—initial operational clearance (IOC) and final operation clearance (FOC)—with 16 fighters and four trainers in each batch. The delivery of the first 16 fighters in IOC configuration is complete.

www.defenceaviationpost.com

Hope this happens .

 

[tsunami]

Griepen E is the most expensive aircraft because it’s a single engine light aircraft but still costs 100-130 million dollars per unit cost of maintenance and missiles are extras

If we can get MWF right by 2027 gripen will be officially dead after that.

 

[ARVION]

If we can get MWF right by 2027 gripen will be officially dead after that.

What the goppu will do it's in the last leg's and our's LCA Tejas has just started to grow .