Kolkata Class Destroyers Update

[CCP]

Re: Indian Navy most powerful warship to be delivered next month

How any do you think they carry?

Do your homework.

 

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Re: Indian Navy most powerful warship to be delivered next month

If you are not blind , you can tell me the difference.

Only if you stop editing your photos posted.

Suffering from inferiority complex?

 

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Re: Indian Navy most powerful warship to be delivered next month

Do your homework.

I am not in school. You are.

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[CCP]

Re: Indian Navy most powerful warship to be delivered next month

Only if you stop editing your photos posted.

Suffering from inferiority complex?

you replied too quick.

 

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Re: Indian Navy most powerful warship to be delivered next month

you replied too quick.

That doesn't absolve that your original photo was clueless.

 

[CCP]

Re: Indian Navy most powerful warship to be delivered next month

That doesn't absolve that your original photo was clueless.

ok, my bad.

 

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Re: Indian Navy most powerful warship to be delivered next month

ok, my bad.

No offence dear.

But, you never replied how HQ-16 is better than Shtil-1. When the former is a variant of other.

 

[CCP]

Re: Indian Navy most powerful warship to be delivered next month

No offence dear.

But, you never replied how HQ-16 is better than Shtil-1. When the former is a variant of other.

1. Range
the newest version of India's Pechora 2A (SA-3 OSA) is 28 kms, comapre to HQ-16 50 kms.
Shtil-1 Naval Air Defense System - Russia

2. Shtil-1 is not VLS, so it can no intercept multiple targets

 

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1. range the newest version of India's Pechora 2A (SA-3 OSA) is 28 kms, comapre to HQ-16 50 kms.
Shtil-1 Naval Air Defense System - Russia

2. Shtil-1 is not VLS, so it can no intercept multiple targets

Pechora is with IAF not IN.

And it is called SA-3 Goa and not SA-3 OSA

S-125 Neva/Pechora - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

here is osa

9K33 Osa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Find a better source.

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We have B1 along with Shtil-1 system.

Or Igla ER with Shitil-1

Your mighty frigate don't have second SAM system.

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[CCP]

Re: Indian Navy most powerful warship to be delivered next month

Pechora is with IAF not IN.

And it is called SA-3 Goa and not SA-3 OSA

S-125 Neva/Pechora - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

read this link again...

Naval version

Work on a naval version M-1 Volna (SA-N-1) started in 1956, along with work on a land version. It was first mounted on a rebuilt Kotlin class destroyer (Project 56K) Bravyi and tested in 1962. In the same year, the system was accepted. The basic missile was a V-600 (or 4K90) (range: from 4 to 15 km, altitude: from 0.1 to 10 km). Fire control and guidance is carried out by 4R90 Yatagan radar, with five parabolic antennas on a common head. Only one target can be engaged at a time (or two, for ships fitted with two Volna systems). In case of emergency, Volna could be also used against naval targets, due to short response time.

The first launcher type was the two-missile ZIF-101, with a magazine for 16 missiles. In 1963 an improved two-missile launcher, ZIF-102, with a magazine for 32 missiles, was introduced to new ship classes. In 1967 Volna systems were upgraded to Volna-M (SA-N-1B) with V-601 (4K91) missiles (range: 4–22 km, altitude: 0.1–14 km).

In 1974 - 1976 some systems were modernized to Volna-P standard, with an additional TV target tracking channel and better resistance to jamming. Later, improved V-601M missiles were introduced, with lower minimal attack altitude against aerial targets (system Volna-N).

Some Indian frigates also carry the M-1 Volna system.

Your mighty frigate don't have second SAM system.

HQ- 7,9,10,16,61

 

[SajeevJino]

Re: Indian Navy most powerful warship to be delivered next month

Wrong Info.

Even going by the above article.

The author claims P-15 A to be 7200 tonnes, so accordingly to him how much is the displacement of P15 Delhi class?

Ret Lt. Col Ajay Shukla

Expert in LCA

and you Know his good Interview with a Air force Officer ..Where He Told we need Platform like Rafale and Ajay Told everyone going to F 35 so we too ...!!!

 

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Re: Indian Navy most powerful warship to be delivered next month

read this link again...

Naval version

Work on a naval version M-1 Volna (SA-N-1) started in 1956, along with work on a land version. It was first mounted on a rebuilt Kotlin class destroyer (Project 56K) Bravyi and tested in 1962. In the same year, the system was accepted. The basic missile was a V-600 (or 4K90) (range: from 4 to 15 km, altitude: from 0.1 to 10 km). Fire control and guidance is carried out by 4R90 Yatagan radar, with five parabolic antennas on a common head. Only one target can be engaged at a time (or two, for ships fitted with two Volna systems). In case of emergency, Volna could be also used against naval targets, due to short response time.

The first launcher type was the two-missile ZIF-101, with a magazine for 16 missiles. In 1963 an improved two-missile launcher, ZIF-102, with a magazine for 32 missiles, was introduced to new ship classes. In 1967 Volna systems were upgraded to Volna-M (SA-N-1B) with V-601 (4K91) missiles (range: 4–22 km, altitude: 0.1–14 km).

In 1974 - 1976 some systems were modernized to Volna-P standard, with an additional TV target tracking channel and better resistance to jamming. Later, improved V-601M missiles were introduced, with lower minimal attack altitude against aerial targets (system Volna-N).

Some Indian frigates also carry the M-1 Volna system.




HQ- 7,9,10,16,61

Desperate aren't you?

Where it is written that M1 Volna is Shtil-1?

and this is year of the lord 2014 and you are quoting me 1974-1976.

And last we were discussing Shtil-1 system.

Provide link about Shtil system.

And you are yet to provide me link on how HQ 16 which is based on Shtil-1 evolvrd into a 50 km SAM when you say Shtil could not evolve.

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Show me the link which says Type 54 carries secondary sam.

 

[CCP]

Re: Indian Navy most powerful warship to be delivered next month

And you are yet to provide me link on how HQ 16 which is based on Shtil-1 evolvrd into a 50 km SAM when you say Shtil could not evolve.

could you show me a link for that?

Show me the link which says Type 54 carries secondary sam.

I got you question now.

We do not need 2 SAMs, since HQ-16(range 50Km) have range covered both short and middle range.
Barak-1(range 17 kms) is good but can only cover short range. That is why you have to put an arm-launch Shtil (range 28 kms)on the front(better than nothing).

 

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Re: Indian Navy most powerful warship to be delivered next month

could you show me a link for that?



I got you question now.

We do not need 2 SAMs, since HQ-16(range 50Km) have range covered both short and middle range.
Barak-1(range 17 kms) is good but can only cover short range. That is why you have to put an arm-launch Shtil (range 28 kms)on the front(better than nothing).

Counter questions, will end discussion. I have asked first. Answer or your silence will be well understood.

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We do not need 2 SAMs, since HQ-16(range 50Km) have range covered both short and middle range.

No one will focus fire on a destroyer but AC.

Barak-1 is good but there are limits :
1.number of missiles the ship can carry
2.capacity of how many incoming missiles can handle at a time

What is good for Goose is good for the Gander


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Going by your logic why your comrades fitted FL-3000N CIWS in your Type 54 -B along with HQ-16 ?

Tying yourself in Knots aren't you?

 

[Eastman]

Re: Indian Navy most powerful warship to be delivered next month

Indian navy should go for destroyers in excess of 10000 tons next !!

Well how about 64 VLS Air-defence and 16 Anti Ship VLS upon the existing design...?

 

[CCP]

Re: Indian Navy most powerful warship to be delivered next month

Counter questions, will end discussion. I have asked first. Answer or your silence will be well understood.

32 units of barak -1

Tying yourself in Knots aren't you?

I think you are the one tying yourself in Knots.

Any link for FL-3000N goes to 054B?

BTW, FL-3000N is for export, PLAN is using HQ-10.

 

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Re: Indian Navy most powerful warship to be delivered next month

32 units of barak -1



I think you are the one tying yourself in Knots.

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Well you haven't answered.

Should I list you the questions dear?


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Don't need to get your panties in a twist, it's you who needs to do the answering.

 

[CCP]

Re: Indian Navy most powerful warship to be delivered next month

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Well you haven't answered.

Should I list you the questions dear?


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Don't need to get your panties in a twist, it's you who needs to do the answering.

You replied too quick, again.

 

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Re: Indian Navy most powerful warship to be delivered next month

32 units of barak -1



I think you are the one tying yourself in Knots.

Any link for FL-3000N goes to 054B?

BTW, FL-3000N is for export, PLAN is using HQ-10.

Whatever, I am least concerned about what you keep for yourself and what monkey model you export.

You didn't answer why type type 54, type 54A doesn't have a secondary SAM while 54-B has/will have it?

Do you wan't to say Type 54-B will not have HQ-10/ FL-3000N? Strange?

 

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Re: Indian Navy most powerful warship to be delivered next month

You replied too quick, again.

And you can't post in one go, poor you.