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The production is nearly 1 a month for India.
After the 4 in late July, another batch of 3 or 4 may arrive in october.
 

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RAFALE F4 and beyong....

The F4 upgrade, planned for 2023, will introduce the new Mica NG air-to-air missile as well secure radios and satellite communication systems.
Updates to the RBE2 active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar and the Spectra electronic warfare system are also planned.

The proposed F5 upgrade, planned for 2030, allows for the integration of the ASN4G missile, replacing the ASMP-A. It also paves the way for the use of remote carriers—the unmanned air systems that will complement the FCAS—performing surveillance and electronic warfare while flying ahead of or alongside the Rafale or NGF.
Perhaps the most significant upgrade in F5 will be what Parisot calls a virtual cognitive assistant—an artificial intelligence system capable of reconfiguring aircraft systems in the event of a failure, alerting the pilots to tactical situations, and advising on new routings.
Parisot likened the cognitive assistant to Iron Man’s “Jarvis” from the Marvel comics. Jarvis communicates with Iron Man through voice activation, a feature Parisot says the cognitive assistant will also require, noting it should operate “intuitively without excess chatter ... with a high level of trust, speakability and intelligibility.”
Most crucially, it will monitor pilots’ brain, heart and eye activity, looking out for what Parisot calls “cognitive overload.”
If detected, the system will deliver “cognitive countermeasures,” he explains, with the AI taking back tasks from the pilot and reducing the level of information on visual displays.
Work on the artificial intelligence is already underway through the Man-Machine Teaming advanced study program launched by Thales and Dassault in March 2018.
A critical element in being able to accelerate the upgrade process for the aircraft is ongoing work to separate the aircraft’s flight-critical software from its tactical systems. This is an approach adopted by Saab for its Gripen NG that allows upgrades to onboard systems to be delivered without the need for costly and time-consuming recertification. Additional connectivity could allow mission data to be updated in real time from electronic intelligence gathering such as the planned CUGE platform to replace the Transall Gabriel Sigint aircraft.
Parisot acknowledges the significant efforts underway to support collaborative operations. But he notes that elements of the Rafale force need to be able to operate in a “nonconnected mode of action ... this is critical for the deterrent mission.”

F6 and F7 upgrade plans are also envisioned and will be aligned with the upgrade path for the NGF.
Several studies are also underway to extend the Rafale’s airframe life from the current 5,000 hr. up to 7,500 and potentially 9,000 hr.
There are also studies taking place into whether additional power could be gleaned from the SafranM88 engine when the Rafale receives the new ASN4G.
 

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Work on the artificial intelligence is already underway through the Man-Machine Teaming advanced study program launched by Thales and Dassault in March 2018.
Indeed. There is also a french start-up in the loop, Craft AI. They are working on an assistant named Aspic.

 

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Sounds good. What is your source ? :basanti:

Anyway, my bet was always 80 Rafale for IAF. Air Chief Marshal Fali Homi Major (who was an helicopter pilot ! ) wanted 80 Rafale, years ago. It looked reasonable then.

 

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Sounds good. What is your source ? :basanti:

Anyway, my bet was always 80 Rafale for IAF. Air Chief Marshal Fali Homi Major (who was an helicopter pilot ! ) wanted 80 Rafale, years ago. It looked reasonable then.

Rafales are for paki corridor, with china, we won't ever need to use them, apparently sticks and stones are enough. I feel 36 is the right number right about now.
 

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Rafales are for paki corridor, with china, we won't ever need to use them, apparently sticks and stones are enough. I feel 36 is the right number right about now.
Don’t underestimate the lust of Chinese for power. I am afraid war is inevitable, if China wants to be an hegemon in all Asia, then India stands in their way. It is like the rise of Imperial Germany, they needed to bleed Austria first, then France, then in the endgame Russia, and be masters of Europe.

80 Rafale by 2026 is a realistic plan. I hope it materializes.
 

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Don’t underestimate the lust of Chinese for power. I am afraid war is inevitable, if China wants to be an hegemon in all Asia, then India stands in their way. It is like the rise of Imperial Germany, they needed to bleed Austria first, then France, then in the endgame Russia, and be masters of Europe.

80 Rafale by 2026 is a realistic plan. I hope it materializes.
Won't be happening Unless we increase our budget to 3 percent atleast.
 

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Will France be willing to provide 1 or 2 squadrons of Rafale directly from the French Air Force holdings to India in case a war breaks out with China?.Emergency transfer. Can we depend on France?.
 

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Firstly we need to learn to be self reliant, we shouldn't have to depend on anybody. Secondly, emergency transfer of Jets doesn't solve anything. Fighters Jet take years to master for combat.
No one has any dispute with the goal of self reliance. But we cannot be blind to present day realities. India as of today has not mastered fighter aircraft technology. We are probably looking at an intense war with China in the next few weeks if media reports are to be believed. The Chinese are bolstering their forces on the ground and in the air. Taking on the PLAAF is not the same as taking on the PAF.

If it were Pakistan we do not need anything extra. Our air assets are more than sufficient.

The Chinese have advanced greatly in aerospace technology in recent years. Jet engines are probably their only weakness. Whether they stole the technology from others is not important.

They have heavy bombers, 5th generation planes?,indigenous EW aircraft, hundreds of flanker variants etc. I am not trying to scare people but we should be realistic while assessing our capabilities. We are on the right path but require probably a decade more to catch up with China in indigenous aerospace capability.

We cannot chant the mantra of self reliance and handicap ourselves at this point of time. We do not know if the J20 has been deployed in Tibet and what are its capabilities. Our Su30 mki, Mig29 and Mirage 2000 cannot counter a 5th generation jet. The Rafale is a generation ahead of the Mirages. In EW it is ahead of the Chinese.

Even superpowers like the United States and Russia (Soviet Union) have taken help from others at certain times. So there is nothing to be ashamed of. India will become self sufficient. We only need a little more time.
 

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