Know Your 'Rafale'

[WolfPack86]

The @byMBDA weapons package for the Indian Rafales — including the Meteor, SCALP & MICA will begin delivery & integration in 2020 when the first jets are ferried to India starting May 2020.

 

[Chanakya 002]

The Indian Air Force is set to get the `game changer’ SCALP and Meteor missiles for its Rafale fighter jets next year which will outrange all known weapon systems in the region and will give India a definitive combat edge.

The SCALP stand off missile, manufactured at the highly protected facility here, has a range of over 300 km and is designed to hit high value, strongly protected targets deep inside enemy territory. The Rafale jets – the first of which is likely to arrive in India in May 2020 – can carry two of the missiles that will enable them to hit virtually any target within Pakistan. The first Rafale jets are set to be handed over to India on October 8 but will be flown in France for several months before being ferried to the home base at Ambala.

“The SCALP is highly combat proven. It can carry out high destruction against high value assets, bridges, railroads, power plants, airfields, buried bunkers and command and control centres. It can evade enemy air defence units with its ground hugging trajectory,” a senior MBDA executive – which is the manufacturer of the system – says.

While India already has the Brahmos cruise missile in service, air force officers say that the SCALP is in a different category, given its pinpoint accuracy to take down targets in all weather conditions and ability to evade air defence systems.

 

[uoftotaku]

Small point to note. The Rafale can actually carry upto 5 Scalp missiles each if required. Not just 2 as is mentioned in the excerpt above

 

[BON PLAN]

SCALP at @byMBDA’s Selles-Saint-Denis facility in central France. SCALP part of the weapons package on the Indian Rafales, the first of which are entering service next month.

SCALP entering service next month on what kind of plane ?
The indian rafale are not delivered....

 

[Absolut_Vodka]

SCALP entering service next month on what kind of plane ?
The indian rafale are not delivered....

He meant first of RAFALES are entering service next month, not SCALP.

 

[BON PLAN]

The Indian Air Force is set to get the `game changer’ SCALP and Meteor missiles for its Rafale fighter jets next year which will outrange all known weapon systems in the region and will give India a definitive combat edge.

The SCALP stand off missile, manufactured at the highly protected facility here, has a range of over 300 km and is designed to hit high value, strongly protected targets deep inside enemy territory. The Rafale jets – the first of which is likely to arrive in India in May 2020 – can carry two of the missiles that will enable them to hit virtually any target within Pakistan. The first Rafale jets are set to be handed over to India on October 8 but will be flown in France for several months before being ferried to the home base at Ambala.

“The SCALP is highly combat proven. It can carry out high destruction against high value assets, bridges, railroads, power plants, airfields, buried bunkers and command and control centres. It can evade enemy air defence units with its ground hugging trajectory,” a senior MBDA executive – which is the manufacturer of the system – says.

While India already has the Brahmos cruise missile in service, air force officers say that the SCALP is in a different category, given its pinpoint accuracy to take down targets in all weather conditions and ability to evade air defence systems.

what is the kind of warhead of Brahmos?
SCALP use a broach warhead : a first stage to create in hole in the hardened target (bunker...) and a second one for the blast. SCALP is specially dedicated to hit hardened target.

 

[IndianHawk]

what is the kind of warhead of Brahmos?
SCALP use a broach warhead : a first stage to create in hole in the hardened target (bunker...) and a second one for the blast. SCALP is specially dedicated to hit hardened target.

Bramhos velocity itself can penetrate any target. Warhead is for extra fun.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

UPDATE..................

 

[Deathstar]

UPDATE..................

If Kaveri core is replaced by M88 ,it stops being indian engine. Why waste time then instead directly buy M88 cores

 

[Assassin 2.0]

I think government is thinking how much of our total funds stays in india. If france can give a good or can produce these cores in india with some private company this can be a huge boost for our capabilities. If most of our funds stays in india then using French core will be sweet.

 

[BON PLAN]

If Kaveri core is replaced by M88 ,it stops being indian engine. Why waste time then instead directly buy M88 cores

It's not as easy.
There is a fine tune between the core and the rest of the engine.
Variable dilution rate, post combustion, air flow rate... have effects on the core.

 

[BON PLAN]

UPDATE..................

At least the talks are continuing...
We have read that it was stopped and that new talks were to begin with RR....

 

[Armand2REP]

If Kaveri core is replaced by M88 ,it stops being indian engine. Why waste time then instead directly buy M88 cores

M88 isn't big enough, the core would be an enlarged version to fit Kaveri and make it more powerful than the smaller M88.

 

[WolfPack86]

JUST IN: @byMBDA & India’s Bharat Dynamics Ltd enter into agreement to for final assembly & integration of ASRAAM & Mistral missiles in India. We had reported on the plan last October:

 

[WolfPack86]

As Rafale Storm Rages, Offsets May Bring 2 Big Missile Lines To Indian Govt Firm
As a political storm rages over allegations that India’s state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) was somehow ‘abandoned’ in favour of private sector beneficiaries in the 2016 contract for 36 Rafale jets, another Indian government-owned firm stands to gain big. Livefist has learned that two major proposals as part of the offsets plan involve moving the final assembly of major missile systems to India and the manufacture of substantial parts in country.

With much of the current political fire aimed at the Rafale offsets partnerships, the actual work of executing the billions of Euros in offsets has gathered pace. Not that the makers of the Rafale have a choice. The three big companies that make the Rafale — Dassault Aviation, Thales and Safran — have until 2023 (a seven year period from the time the contract was signed) to plough nearly €4 billion back into India in the form of offsets, half of the €7.87 billion value of the Rafale deal.

The fourth firm in the Rafale deal that also has major offsets commitments is European missile maker MBDA. Livefist learns that to complete offset obligations, the company is looking to transfer substantial manufacturing of missile parts to India, in addition to entire final assembly lines of certain missile systems. A major current proposal, sources say, is to build the rear portion of the MICA air-to-air missile in India at MBDA’s joint venture with Indian giant Larsen & Toubro. The MICA, currently built in Selles-Saint-Denis in France, is a weapon system that the Indian Air Force will receive both on its upgraded Mirage 2000 jets as well as on the new Rafales. Mechanical parts of the launcher of MBDA’s MICA missile are already built in India by L&T. A proposal currently exists for integration of the entire MICA at MBDA’s joint venture with L&T, formed last year.

MBDA has offsets obligations totaling over €1 billion from contracts that include the Rafale deal, the Mirage 2000 upgrade program and a contract for ASRAAM missiles for Indian Air Force Jaguar jets.

The other major proposal, of even greater possible significance, is to transfer final assembly of the ASRAAM air-to-air missile from MBDA’s facility in Bolton in the United Kingdom to Indian state-owned Bharat Dynamic Ltd’s Hyderabad facilities. Coupled with a standing offer to conduct final assembly of the Mistral air-to-air/air defence missile in Hyderabad, MBDA believes it has a powerful pair of proposals to transfer skilled workforce jobs to India on two current weapon systems.

While MBDA has managed to navigate the turbulent Indian defence procurement system to land major contracts in the last few years, its costliest campaign ever in the world is still hanging fire in India — a $5.8 billion order for very short range air defence systems (VSHORADS) for the Indian Army. MBDA’s Mistral system competes against Sweden’s Saab RBS 70NG and Russia’s Igla-S. After five years of trials and letters of protest shot off to the MoD earlier this year, the deal sits on a razor’s edge. After an unprecedented number of trial rounds, including a final round last year, a decision is awaited from the Indian MoD on final evaluations. Considering the ill-tempered, turbulent nature of the contest, which even included a no-show by the Russian competitor on a couple of occasions, it remains to be seen how and if the MoD will navigate this final stretch. Or if it will at all.

But MBDA has less reason for despondence than firms, including one of its own parent shareholders Airbus, considering that the missile maker has landed substantive contracts in India despite a chronic air of uncertainty, one that’s been amplified by the current political swirl over the Rafale deal. Apart from the vulnerable VSHORADS contest, MBDA’s future opportunities in India include the MMP ATGM 5 system for the Indian Army, the Sea Venom and Marte for the Indian Navy’s multirole helicopter procurements (as part of the MH-60R package) and the Sea Ceptor and VL MICA for the Indian Navy’s recently cleared acquisition of 10 short-range surface to air missile (SRSAM) systems.
https://www.livefistdefence.com/201...-2-big-missile-lines-to-indian-govt-firm.html

 

[WolfPack86]

Just visited @byMBDA’s new SCALP integration line at Selles-Saint-Denis. The first SCALPs for the Indian Rafales begin production ‘in weeks’ according to the company, in time for deliveries early next year. Detailed report later this week.

 

[WolfPack86]

#BREAKING: European missile manufacturer MBDA signs an MoU with Bharat Dynamics Limited (BDL) 4 final assembly, integration and test of #Mistral and #ASRAAM missiles in India.

MBDA, Europe’s leading missile manufacturer, has signed an agreement with Bharat Dynamics Limited (BDL) of India for the final assembly, integration and test (FAIT) of Mistral and ASRAAM missiles in India. The Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) was signed on 12 Sep at DSEI in London by George Kyriakides, Director of International Industrial Co-operation at MBDA, and Commodore Siddharth Mishra (Retd.), Chairman & Managing Director of BDL.

Su-30MKI & Tejas will also get ASRAAM. Integration of the #Mistral on the Dhruv helicopter and Light Combat Aircraft has been completed.
.https://www.facebook.com/pg/TeamAMCA/photos/?ref=page_internal

 

[IndianHawk]

#BREAKING: European missile manufacturer MBDA signs an MoU with Bharat Dynamics Limited (BDL) 4 final assembly, integration and test of #Mistral and #ASRAAM missiles in India.

MBDA, Europe’s leading missile manufacturer, has signed an agreement with Bharat Dynamics Limited (BDL) of India for the final assembly, integration and test (FAIT) of Mistral and ASRAAM missiles in India. The Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) was signed on 12 Sep at DSEI in London by George Kyriakides, Director of International Industrial Co-operation at MBDA, and Commodore Siddharth Mishra (Retd.), Chairman & Managing Director of BDL.

Su-30MKI & Tejas will also get ASRAAM. Integration of the #Mistral on the Dhruv helicopter and Light Combat Aircraft has been completed.
.https://www.facebook.com/pg/TeamAMCA/photos/?ref=page_internal

It's quite amusing . This was the American dream with nuke deal and Indian alliance.
They wanted to integrate India into defense paradigm and wanted to manufacture small , medium weapons cheaply in India to be able to compete with china on scale .

But there high headness left a vacuum and now france is taking advantage of it.

 

[Prashant12]

Indian Air Force (IAF) Sources: IAF received its first ‘acceptance’ Rafale combat aircraft from Dassault Aviation in France

 

[Assassin 2.0]

IAF 'accepts' Rafale, formal hand-over on Dussehra

On Dussehra we Celebrates the victory of good over evil

Symbolic gesture By IAF.

https://m.economictimes.com/news/de...and-over-on-dussehra/articleshow/71223533.cms