Know Your 'Rafale'

[BON PLAN]

RCS can be estimated ( to a certain degree of accuracy ) by software, especially if airframe is in optical region of the wavelength , they have done that for aged.

RCS beiing estimated? You are pulling our legs ! In this case why investing in huge RCS chamber? Or the accuracy is.... totally inapropriate. It's not like seeing a woman to estimate her breast size (with practice it's possible). LOL.

 

[BON PLAN]

no , they are 2000 lbs , google it

Find nothing. Help me.

Some years ago the JSF team had to reduce the bomb size (2000lbs => 1000lbs) load inside the airframe because of weight and space issues....

 

[BON PLAN]

i dont care if it is 3% shorter than it's own specifications , the point is it still have much longer leg than most others fighters.

Another promise never kept.

After affordability, F16 like manoeuvrability, supercruise. And some others to come.

 

[BON PLAN]

Rafale go in and hit 1 tanks , big deal
SEAD roles was done by Italian F-16 and tornado , still none get shoot down.

Tss Tss Tss.

It hit several tanks and artillery near Tobrouk.

It also destroyed a Galeb plane.
Yes ! I can assured it to you....

... But on the ground : with a Hammer bomb fired from dozens of km.

 

[BON PLAN]

No F-16 CJ came to Mace XIII , F-16 CJ is very distinguishable by their ASQ-213
http://foto.poork.pl/en/fotoreportaze/mace-xiii-cwiczenia-nato/

http://www.kamov.net/general-aviation/trial-mace-xiii-exercise-in-slovakia/#.dpuf
if you can find any official source indicated F-16CJ joined MACE XIII then go ahead and try
As far as official information showed there were only F-4E, F-16AM, Mig-29AS, Mig-29UBS, Mirage 2000D, Learjet 35A, Rafale B. and E-3



Give an official source then , this is similar to the BS that someone pulled before , they posted a picture of a fuselage with many F-22 marking and claimed that Rafale did that , funny how it later turned out to be a T-38 who did the shooting

What about MACE XII (and not 13) ?

 

[BON PLAN]

That wrong , the current problem with F-35 software is similar to this
however since F-35 ( and no fighters for that matter ) will loiter for more than 8 hours in reality so practically it is a none issue

If you have to overhaul (or change) the radar every 2, 3 or 4 flights.... It's a logistical nighmare.

 

[gadeshi]

Find nothing. Help me.

Some years ago the JSF team had to reduce the bomb size (2000lbs => 1000lbs) load inside the airframe because of weight and space issues....

1000 lb is max for F-35B due to its lifting fan eats a place in bays forward section.
All the others can carry 2000 lb ones.
The point is those bombs are useless for actions in contested airspace...

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[smestarz]

The French along with other countries were enforcing UN ,mandated no fly zone.so the Libyans did not think there was a threat. and the Libyans did track the Rafales without any worry. We already established many times that Libyan Air force and AD was antiquated Everyyone knows that. But importantly, those libyans radars were able to detect Rafale.
Technically based on all the BS your pro Rafale brothers had said, that SPECTRA is Active cancellation
If its active cancellation, how can the Libyan radars detect Rafale? They should not be seeing those planes at all and that means ACTIVE CANCELLATION.
So seems like I said, SPECTRA capabilities are just BS woven by Dassault to somehow sell Rafale which did not have any buyers till 2015

How many Rafale shoot down? zero. Spectra send false target location to Lybian radar.....

MACE : it was a SA10 missile site. 2 decades old tech? I'm not sure. And the other planes, like a dedicated F16CJ failed....

 

[smestarz]

About the MACE exercise
SA-10 Grumble

The S-300P (transliterated from Russian С-300П, NATO reporting name SA-10 Grumble) is the original version of the S-300 system which became operational in 1978.[1] In 1987, over 80 of these sites were active, mainly in the area around Moscow. The P suffix stand for PVO-Strany (country air defence system). An S-300PT unit consists of a 36D6 (NATO reporting name TIN SHIELD) surveillance radar, a 30N6 (FLAP LID) fire control system and 5P85-1 launch vehicles. The 5P85-1 vehicle is a semi-trailer truck. Usually a 76N6 (CLAM SHELL) low altitude detection radar is also a part of the unit.

Do read 1978 model and what tech was Rafale using? 2010 ???? Haahahaha, like I said,, wonderful, France can achieve "great victory" when using its top weapons against antiquated Soviet Era AD system and then say it with pride.

So, if F-16C failed against it, then its porblem of the American, now the French are going to compare Rafale to F-16C ??? hahahahaha how the mighty are falling

How many Rafale shoot down? zero. Spectra send false target location to Lybian radar.....

MACE : it was a SA10 missile site. 2 decades old tech? I'm not sure. And the other planes, like a dedicated F16CJ failed....

 

[smestarz]

Stealth will always be there, but this is just start of stealth,
There will be electronic steatth, and perhaps optical stealth,
Stealth has just starte the evolution, do not write it just yet since France does not understand Stealth

The RCS of F35, SH, EF, Rafale are known only by their respective manufacturer.

Some say F25 stealthier than F22, some not. Some say F35 is stealthier only from front side, some not.

Some say EF has half the RCS of Rafale....

Stealth will vanish in the near future. Every body work on that. But contrary to F22, F35 without stealth cap will be a poor fighter.

 

[StealthFlanker]

RCS beiing estimated? You are pulling our legs ! In this case why investing in huge RCS chamber? Or the accuracy is.... totally inapropriate. It's not like seeing a woman to estimate her breast size (with practice it's possible). LOL.

Do you understand the word "estimate"?
Estimate : To calculate approximately (the amount, extent, magnitude, position, or value of something).
the point of anechoic chamber is to measure RCS accurately but to estimate RCS then computer simulation is a completely valid way.Just because you are not smart enough to understand it doesn't mean they cant do it

 

[gadeshi]

Do you understand the word "estimate"?
Estimate : To calculate approximately (the amount, extent, magnitude, position, or value of something).
the point of anechoic chamber is to measure RCS accurately but to estimate RCS then computer simulation is a completely valid way.Just because you are not smart enough to understand it doesn't mean they cant do it

RCS cannot be expressed by single number, it's a quite complex system (a quad matrix) of differential equations describing signal reflections from complex object.
So be cool

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[StealthFlanker]

Tss Tss Tss.

It hit several tanks and artillery near Tobrouk.

It also destroyed a Galeb plane.
Yes ! I can assured it to you....

... But on the ground : with a Hammer bomb fired from dozens of km.

Doesn't matter, it didn't do any SEAD, SEAD was done by F-16 and Tornado and neither got shotdown

 

[StealthFlanker]

RCS cannot be expressed by single number, it's a quite complex system (a quad matrix) of differential equations describing signal reflections from complex object.
So be cool

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I know, i mean the scattering graph could be estimated by software, exact RCS obviously depending on RAS and RAM too

 

[StealthFlanker]

Find nothing. Help me.

Some years ago the JSF team had to reduce the bomb size (2000lbs => 1000lbs) load inside the airframe because of weight and space issues....

The one that got reduction is F-35B, and it didn't get reduced to 1000 lbs, it get reduced to 1500 lbs, these A, C version can still carry 2000 lbs JDAM, get your information right

 

[gadeshi]

I know, i mean the scattering graph could be estimated by software, exact RCS obviously depending on RAS and RAM too

It will be very raugh analysis if you don't have complete object 3D model with different materials and RAMs distribution map.

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[gadeshi]

The one that got reduction is F-35B, and it didn't get reduced to 1000 lbs, it get reduced to 1500 lbs, these A, C version can still carry 2000 lbs JDAM, get your information right

What Mk. 80 series bomb has 1500 lb caliber???

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[StealthFlanker]

Another promise never kept.

After affordability, F16 like manoeuvrability, supercruise. And some others to come.

Nope, F-35 has better high AoA characteristics than F-16 and it does have better leg than most fighter

 

[StealthFlanker]

What Mk. 80 series bomb has 1500 lb caliber???

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Not necessary about MK series but stuff like JSOW-ER, NSM, or 4 SPEAR may be around that range

 

[StealthFlanker]

What about MACE XII (and not 13) ?

I dont care, the rumors was about MACE XIII, unless you can give an official source that mentioned Rafale doing same exercise with F-16CJ and it survive while F-16CJ didn't then everything you said is nothing more than nonsense rumors