Know Your 'Rafale'

TrueSpirit

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No, the common one is F-16 B50/52. B60 comes with AESA and the works. Only UAE operates it and it is a derivative of the version offered to us in MRCA.
Yeah, same derivative was offered to us during MMRCA RFP. Was not shortlisted for all the right reasons.

I don't know what you mean. Heavy bombers are entirely different.
Obviously. What I mean is, legacy bomber B-52 having a better aerodynamic performance than F-16 (any version) is not palatable to a layman.
 
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Anyway, MKIs T/W ratio is not impressive enough to challenge the newer aircraft regardless of its other qualities due to the inferior climb rates.
Okay, here's a fanboy poser...

So, is it that MKI is effective against 4th Gen fighters, only ?

I mean, what is real use case for MKI's vastly superior maneuverability & powerful radar, if it MKI would face difficulty in evading BVRAAM's fired from 4.5 Gen foes...?

As it stands today, what are MKI's chances against PAF's upgraded F-16's (Block 52, I guess), J-10's, Su-30 MKK, Gripen-NG (when its fielded) & EF (the Saudi version) ?
 

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SINCERE REQUEST PLEASE RESTRICT THIS THREAD FOR RAFALE & IT'S RELATED INFO

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PARIS: First AESA-equipped Rafale heads for squadron service

With a first sensor already in the advanced stages of test and evaluation at its air force's Mont-de-Marsan air base, an operational French squadron will within the next few weeks receive its first Dassault Rafale equipped with a new active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar.

"The first aircraft equipped with the new antenna will be delivered to the forces in late June or early July," says Bruno Carrara, Rafale programme director for RBE2 radar supplier Thales. The sensor in question was delivered to Dassault's final assembly site in Merignac at the end of 2012, he adds.

Adding the new array to the Rafale forms part of a fourth domestic production order for the Rafale, which covers the delivery of a combined 60 aircraft for the French air force and navy. Production of the AESA antenna is now running at a rate of 11 per year, Carrara says.

Benefits of the new system include a reported doubling of detection range against airborne threats and an ability to produce ground imagery for support air-to-ground operations. It also forms part of proposals to export the Rafale to international customers.

"Mont-de-Marsan is in charge to define the tactics on how they will use this new piece of equipment," Carrara says. "The feedback we have from their tests shows that we have managed to meet all expectations."

Thales is also performing risk-reduction work for the French defence ministry on a new laser designation pod, which is planned to succeed the company's current Damocles system supplied for the nation's Rafales.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/a...ped-rafale-heads-for-squadron-service-387296/
 

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Eric Trappier (Dassault CEO) officially quoted a 200 Km+ Range, which in itself mean nothing (vs what?)
 

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Eric Trappier (Dassault CEO) officially quoted a 200 Km+ Range, which in itself mean nothing (vs what?)
IMHO, it would be a little better than Bars Phase 1's detection and tracking range. Wonder if the resolution would be similar.
 

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Better Quality Version of F-22 defeat

 
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there are other studies in progress:
-CARAA (Additional capabilities for active antenna) is a software upgrade to improve performance against low speed and low altitude threats and to detect ground targets. Tests planned for 2014/2015.
-DEDIRA (stealth Rafale demonstrator) aims to improve stealth. Significant funding for several years. First modifications will be tested real size soon. Content still classified.
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COURTESY-OLYBRIUS
THANK U FOR THE INFO MATE
 

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Current rafale development programs known :

TREGEDAC : passive detection improvement via aircraft networking and traingulation
INCAS : Spectra improvement including GaN + active decoy against Ka band missiles
CARAA : improved RBE2 AESA with new modes and better performance
DEDIRA : stealth increase
GANIMEDE : GaN modules industrialization
THEO : Engine upgrade
DARTAGNAN : Engine upgrade
 

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Tagedac, and also LEA, active lauched decoy ;) (not part of incas)

I know, i'm a bad boy...
 

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