Know Your 'Rafale'

[Blademaster]

Last son is arrived !

Since we have gone for the Rafales and paid for the infrastructure, we need to get more sons.

 

[pankaj nema]

 

[BON PLAN]

Since we have gone for the Rafales and paid for the infrastructure, we need to get more sons.

With pleasure !
How many? 36? 72? 108? more?

 

[Love Charger]

Last son is arrived !

MERCI DE TOUT COEUR, dassult

 

[BON PLAN]

MERCI DE TOUT COEUR, dassult

Dassault :
ON TIME,
ON BUDGET,
ON SPEC.

Something LM no more do.

 

[Blademaster]

With pleasure !
How many? 36? 72? 108? more?

248 more. That will make 12 squadrons at 24 planes per squadron allowing for spares and downtime and replacement.

 

[pankaj nema]

 

[Wisemarko]

Dassault :
ON TIME,
ON BUDGET,
ON SPEC.

Something LM no more do.

For a decades old 4 Gen technology, LM would also be before time, under budget, super spec.

In regards to current technology:
https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/29855-a-record-year-lockheed-martin-delivers-142-f-35s-in-2021

 

[Corvus Splendens]

 

[Sanglamorre]

Since we have gone for the Rafales and paid for the infrastructure, we need to get more sons.

Yes, we already bought the baby stuff for the previous kids do we should get more sons

 

[Wisemarko]

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Lol.. I would love to make up one article too!

 

[Wisemarko]

Mediapart can reveal that, alongside this controversial deal, Dassault also agreed to pay one million euros to a middleman who is now under investigation in India in connection with another defence deal. The French anti-corruption agency Agence Française Anticorruption (AFA) discovered this separate arrangement during a routine audit of Dassault.

Sale of French Rafale jet fighters to India: how a state scandal was buried

In 2016 France and India signed a 7.8-billion-euro deal for the purchase of 36 Rafale jet fighters made by French defence group Dassault. Mediapart can reveal that, alongside this controversial deal…

www.mediapart.fr

 

[Blademaster]

Mediapart can reveal that, alongside this controversial deal, Dassault also agreed to pay one million euros to a middleman who is now under investigation in India in connection with another defence deal. The French anti-corruption agency Agence Française Anticorruption (AFA) discovered this separate arrangement during a routine audit of Dassault.

Sale of French Rafale jet fighters to India: how a state scandal was buried

In 2016 France and India signed a 7.8-billion-euro deal for the purchase of 36 Rafale jet fighters made by French defence group Dassault. Mediapart can reveal that, alongside this controversial deal…

www.mediapart.fr

That guy was from the UPA times when UPA was trying to negotiate setoffs and trying to shake down Dassault for bribes. When Modi came on, he shut that conduit for good and went for government to government deal. Dassault probably told that guy to eff off.

 

[Wisemarko]

That guy was from the UPA times when UPA was trying to negotiate setoffs and trying to shake down Dassault for bribes. When Modi came on, he shut that conduit for good and went for government to government deal. Dassault probably told that guy to eff off.

Excuses excuses..
“Incidentally, in April 2021, French online journal Mediapart had reported that Defsys Solutions had received a payment worth one million euros (Rs 8.62 crore) in connection with the deal to supply Rafale fighter jets to India. The manufacturer of the fighter jets, Dassault Aviation, had not been able to explain the payment to French anti-corruption authorities, the report had said.”

Now explain that… did Dassault actually say eff off? Nope. The whole trial was rigged. G2G deal or not, bribes were paid and Dassault got a lucrative, overpriced contract. India is not alone, Egypt, Qatar, UAE, all have similar tainted deals with French. Where corruption thrives, French excel.

Looking back, Gripen was the best bet for India. Offered at 55% less price than Rafale, it has better aerodynamics, engine, datalinks and local manufacturing offer. Gripen could carry more meteors, without a need to pay for helmet mounted sighs, NATO weapon compatibility (which Rafale lacked), ARM capabilities, better sustained and instantaneous turn rates, lowest maintenance costs off all 4th Gen fighters and excellent growth potential. But the middlemen made sure that the “trials” failed it.

Only loser here is India.. so defending anyone else makes no sense for Indians.

 

[WolfPack86]

Five components being made in Dassault-Reliance’s Nagpur plant to be integrated with all Rafale jets
Nagpur, Dec 15 (PTI) Five Rafale parts being manufactured in the Dassault Reliance Aerospace plant in Nagpur are sent to France to get fitted in all the Rafale jets, not just the Indian ones.

Consul General of France in Mumbai Jean-Marc Sere-Charlet and a delegation of the regional economic service of the embassy visited the two French companies Dassault Reliance Aerospace Limited (DRAL) and Air Liquide present in Nagpur.

Speaking with PTI during his visit, Sere-Charlet said the visit aims to further enhance the close cooperation between France and India in many areas — ranging from trade and investments, defence and security, energy, education, and French language teaching to civil society.

He also said that Agence Francaise Development (AFD) public development bank had contributed 130 million euros in funding for 20 years.

To a query on the manufacturing status of Rafale and Falcon 2000 in the DRAL manufacturing plant, the Consul General said that 5 pieces of Rafale are manufactured in Nagpur and then sent to the France assembly line to be assembled in all the Rafale jets, not just the Indian ones.

He also said that as regards to the manufacturing of Falcon 2000 jets, DRAL is making different segments of Falcon 2000 jets and they are sent to France to be integrated with the assembly line.

AFD is very happy with the work it did in Nagpur metro phase 1 and it is active in other metro projects in Pune and Gujarat, he added.

On whether AFD will be funding the second phase of Nagpur Metro, he informed that it was up to the Maharashtra Metro Rail Corporation to decide with whom they want to partner. But, France and AFD are always interested in developing urban mobility with low carbon impact projects.

The Consul General has also held a meeting with Nagpur Municipal Commissioner Radhakrishnan B. PTI CLS NP BAL BAL

Five components being made in Dassault-Reliance's Nagpur plant to be integrated with all Rafale jets

Nagpur, Dec 15 (PTI) Five Rafale parts being manufactured in the Dassault Reliance Aerospace plant in Nagpur are sent to France to get fitted in all the Rafale jets, not just the Indian ones. Consul General of France in Mumbai Jean-Marc Sere-Charlet and a delegation of the regional economic...

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[Blademaster]

Excuses excuses..
“Incidentally, in April 2021, French online journal Mediapart had reported that Defsys Solutions had received a payment worth one million euros (Rs 8.62 crore) in connection with the deal to supply Rafale fighter jets to India. The manufacturer of the fighter jets, Dassault Aviation, had not been able to explain the payment to French anti-corruption authorities, the report had said.”

Now explain that… did Dassault actually say eff off? Nope. The whole trial was rigged. G2G deal or not, bribes were paid and Dassault got a lucrative, overpriced contract. India is not alone, Egypt, Qatar, UAE, all have similar tainted deals with French. Where corruption thrives, French excel.

Looking back, Gripen was the best bet for India. Offered at 55% less price than Rafale, it has better aerodynamics, engine, datalinks and local manufacturing offer. Gripen could carry more meteors, without a need to pay for helmet mounted sighs, NATO weapon compatibility (which Rafale lacked), ARM capabilities, better sustained and instantaneous turn rates, lowest maintenance costs off all 4th Gen fighters and excellent growth potential. But the middlemen made sure that the “trials” failed it.

Only loser here is India.. so defending anyone else makes no sense for Indians.

Gripen was ruled out and we don't need NATO weapon compatibility and for the other reasons you cited, it is full of bullshit. Gripen would have threaten the viability of the LCA Tejas program and India could not have that. Moreover, Gripen has no takers outside of Brazil and Brazil has a very different threat environment.

 

[Wisemarko]

Gripen was ruled out and we don't need NATO weapon compatibility and for the other reasons you cited, it is full of bullshit.

India paid close to $2 billion dollars to Dassault for NATO system compatibility

 

[NutCracker]

India paid close to $2 billion dollars to Dassault for NATO system compatibility

Source ?

 

[NutCracker]

India paid close to $2 billion dollars to Dassault for NATO system compatibility

no response and laughing reaction tells me that you are pulling out things from where sun doesn't shine.

French portal Mediapart publishes yet another dubious report on Rafale

The Mediapart report shows that Sushen Gupta was involved in defence deal negotiations in 2012 during UPA government | OpIndia News

www.opindia.com

This can help you.


or Are you salty that US middlemen or companies didn't receive the "bribe" ?

Boeing Charged with 737 Max Fraud Conspiracy and Agrees to Pay over $2.5 Billion

The Boeing Company (Boeing) has entered into an agreement with the Department of Justice to resolve a criminal charge related to a conspiracy to defraud the Federal Aviation Administration’s Aircraft Evaluation Group (FAA AEG) in connection with the FAA AEG’s evaluation of Boeing’s 737 MAX airplane.

www.justice.gov

 

[NutCracker]

Further orders of Rafale will be 20%(or more) cheaper in dollar terms but upto 10% more expensive in Rupee terms bcoz INR has depreciated approx 25% since September 2016

& this is how the next Rafale scam will be invented by pappu & khangress.

Thats why we should sign Rafale MRCBF asap, with a clause for bigger order for Airforce with shorter timeline for first delivery.
Our TEDBF isnt developed yet, so INC whining against "make In India" will not make much waves, and we would get Navy and Airforce equipped much quicker.