Key 26/11 conspirator Abu Hamza arrested at Delhi Airport

[sayareakd]

Their is sufficient evidence to prove that control room was in Pakistan as all call were coming from Pakistan, GPS coordinates started from Pakistan and they have get away plan on GPS which ends in Pakistan, it was proved in Court of law. Sentence was given which is under challenge in SC.

Facts of case are now part of court record. Even Pakistan has accepted that its citizen were involved in Mumbai attack. So dont float around false stories.

 

[ajtr]

US started LeT? Are you nuts? There's a limit to stupidity.

Credit of brainwashing and starting all mujahideen faction goes to usa and usa alone.And the books of wahabi islam which were /are taught in pakistani madarssas to create army of mujahideens were printed from university of nebraska.check out president reagan with haqani.




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[ajtr]

Their is sufficient evidence to prove that control room was in Pakistan as all call were coming from Pakistan, GPS coordinates started from Pakistan and they have get away plan on GPS which ends in Pakistan, it was proved in Court of law. Sentence was given which is under challenge in SC.

Facts of case are now part of court record. Even Pakistan has accepted that its citizen were involved in Mumbai attack. So dont float around false stories.

How does setting up some obscure control room by some motivated jehadis in pakistan proves pakistan govt.'s hand in 26/11.Even Riaz bhaktal of IM used to send emails by using unsecure wireless networks of people from with in india after every serial blasts.does that mean that indian govt. can be accused of carrying those serial blasts?

 

[Oracle]

Credit of brainwashing and starting all mujahideen faction goes to usa and usa alone.And the books of wahabi islam which were /are taught in pakistani madarssas to create army of mujahideens were printed from university of nebraska.check out president reagan with haqani.



Haqqani Network, Proxy War & US History of Proxy War. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2011/09/haqqani-network-proxy-war-us-history... Meet Jalaluddin Haqqani aka The Asset but WHOSE? http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2011/09/meet-jalaluddin-haqqani-aka-asset-bu... Jalaluddin Haqqani & CIA's Phoenix Program in Vietnam http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2011/09/jalaluddin-haqqani-cias-phoenix-prog... Jalaluddin Haqqani, Ronald Reagan & Strategic Assets/Depths! Chagatai Khan: Jalaluddin Haqqani, Ronald Reagan & Strategic Assets/Depths! Oil, Drugs & the Future of Afghanistan. Chagatai Khan: Oil, Drugs & the Future of Afghanistan.

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Five myths about Osama bin Laden

Few individuals in recent history have exerted greater influence on world events than Osama bin Laden — and even fewer have inspired as much mythology. From the origins of the al-Qaeda terrorist network to the devastation of Sept. 11, 2001, to the manhunt that came to an end with such drama last Sunday, bin Laden's life has been shrouded in mysteries and misconceptions.

1. The CIA created Osama bin Laden.

Common among conspiracy theorists is the notion that bin Laden was a CIA creation and that the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, were blowback from an agency operation gone awry. Typifying this view is filmmaker Michael Moore, who on the day after the terrorist attacks wrote: "WE created the monster known as Osama bin Laden! Where did he go to terrorist school? At the CIA!"

In fact, during the Soviet war in Afghanistan during the 1980s, the CIA had no dealings with "Afghan Arabs" such as bin Laden and had few direct dealings with any of the Afghan mujaheddin. Instead, all U.S. aid to Afghanistan was funneled through Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency, the ISI. Brigadier Mohammad Yousaf, the ISI officer who coordinated Pakistani efforts during the war, explained in "The Bear Trap," his 1992 book: "No Americans ever trained or had direct contact with the mujaheddin."

Since 9/11, al-Qaeda insiders have responded in writing to assertions that they had some kind of relationship with the CIA. Bin Laden's top lieutenant, Ayman al-Zawahiri, in his autobiographical "Knights Under the Banner of the Prophet," wrote, "The truth that everyone should learn is that the United States did not give one penny in aid to the [Arab] mujaheddin." Similarly, Abu Musab al-Suri, long an associate of bin Laden's, explained in his history of the jihadist movement, "The Call to Global Islamic Resistance": "It is a big lie that the Afghan Arabs were formed with the backing of the CIA."

There are very few things that al-Qaeda and the CIA agree upon — except that they have never had any relationship.

Read the rest yourself and try to educate yourself.

 

[Cliff@sea]

US started LeT? Are you nuts? There's a limit to stupidity.

No Actually i think that might have some truth ...

in 86-88 during the Afghan (US-USSR) war ,

US funded and armed all Islamic extremists elements in the region, under Zia's supervision
to fight the Communist 'atheist' Soviets as Mujahideen

Later on when the war was over ....and Soviets were vanquished
US simply took off .... . . . Washing its hands off the whole affair

Pakistan instead off disbanding them decided to
use them as strategic assets against India . . . (which probably was always the plan)

some groups became the Taliban
others devided themselves into many other groups

LeT was born out of such rogue groups merging with Hafiz Saeed's JuD (which was till then more ideological then militant)

so while US didn't directly start LeT . . .
it sure is somewhat responsible for their existence today

 

[ajtr]

You're giving me links to blogs?

Five myths about Osama bin Laden

Few individuals in recent history have exerted greater influence on world events than Osama bin Laden — and even fewer have inspired as much mythology. From the origins of the al-Qaeda terrorist network to the devastation of Sept. 11, 2001, to the manhunt that came to an end with such drama last Sunday, bin Laden's life has been shrouded in mysteries and misconceptions.

1. The CIA created Osama bin Laden.

Common among conspiracy theorists is the notion that bin Laden was a CIA creation and that the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, were blowback from an agency operation gone awry. Typifying this view is filmmaker Michael Moore, who on the day after the terrorist attacks wrote: "WE created the monster known as Osama bin Laden! Where did he go to terrorist school? At the CIA!"

In fact, during the Soviet war in Afghanistan during the 1980s, the CIA had no dealings with "Afghan Arabs" such as bin Laden and had few direct dealings with any of the Afghan mujaheddin. Instead, all U.S. aid to Afghanistan was funneled through Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency, the ISI. Brigadier Mohammad Yousaf, the ISI officer who coordinated Pakistani efforts during the war, explained in "The Bear Trap," his 1992 book: "No Americans ever trained or had direct contact with the mujaheddin."

Since 9/11, al-Qaeda insiders have responded in writing to assertions that they had some kind of relationship with the CIA. Bin Laden's top lieutenant, Ayman al-Zawahiri, in his autobiographical "Knights Under the Banner of the Prophet," wrote, "The truth that everyone should learn is that the United States did not give one penny in aid to the [Arab] mujaheddin." Similarly, Abu Musab al-Suri, long an associate of bin Laden's, explained in his history of the jihadist movement, "The Call to Global Islamic Resistance": "It is a big lie that the Afghan Arabs were formed with the backing of the CIA."

There are very few things that al-Qaeda and the CIA agree upon — except that they have never had any relationship.

Read the rest yourself and try to educate yourself.

What can be biggest proof when president reagan himself is seen with mujahideens in whitehouse .there goes the lie.

 

[Cliff@sea]

You're giving me links to blogs?

Five myths about Osama bin Laden

Few individuals in recent history have exerted greater influence on world events than Osama bin Laden — and even fewer have inspired as much mythology. From the origins of the al-Qaeda terrorist network to the devastation of Sept. 11, 2001, to the manhunt that came to an end with such drama last Sunday, bin Laden's life has been shrouded in mysteries and misconceptions.

1. The CIA created Osama bin Laden.

Common among conspiracy theorists is the notion that bin Laden was a CIA creation and that the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, were blowback from an agency operation gone awry. Typifying this view is filmmaker Michael Moore, who on the day after the terrorist attacks wrote: "WE created the monster known as Osama bin Laden! Where did he go to terrorist school? At the CIA!"

In fact, during the Soviet war in Afghanistan during the 1980s, the CIA had no dealings with "Afghan Arabs" such as bin Laden and had few direct dealings with any of the Afghan mujaheddin. Instead, all U.S. aid to Afghanistan was funneled through Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency, the ISI. Brigadier Mohammad Yousaf, the ISI officer who coordinated Pakistani efforts during the war, explained in "The Bear Trap," his 1992 book: "No Americans ever trained or had direct contact with the mujaheddin."

Since 9/11, al-Qaeda insiders have responded in writing to assertions that they had some kind of relationship with the CIA. Bin Laden's top lieutenant, Ayman al-Zawahiri, in his autobiographical "Knights Under the Banner of the Prophet," wrote, "The truth that everyone should learn is that the United States did not give one penny in aid to the [Arab] mujaheddin." Similarly, Abu Musab al-Suri, long an associate of bin Laden's, explained in his history of the jihadist movement, "The Call to Global Islamic Resistance": "It is a big lie that the Afghan Arabs were formed with the backing of the CIA."

There are very few things that al-Qaeda and the CIA agree upon — except that they have never had any relationship.

Read the rest yourself and try to educate yourself.

Oh come on ...!!
This Is Propoganda ....
and while Osama was pretty much a self made terrorist (he was never a part of LeT b t w )

The organization he created was very much made up of elements ...which were CIA's illegitimate children .

 

[Cliff@sea]

What can be biggest proof when president reagan himself is seen with mujahideens in whitehouse .there goes the lie.

Have to agree with her on this one . . .!

 

[sayareakd]

How does setting up some obscure control room by some motivated jehadis in pakistan proves pakistan govt.'s hand in 26/11.Even Riaz bhaktal of IM used to send emails by using unsecure wireless networks of people from with in india after every serial blasts.does that mean that indian govt. can be accused of carrying those serial blasts?

well then why the Pakistan was so desperate to get his hand on abu jindal ? if he was not their citizen.

 

[ajtr]

well then why the Pakistan was so desperate to get his hand on abu jindal ? if he was not their citizen.

Coz pakistani govt thought he is pakistani citizen coz he was travelling on pakistani passport.Iwould rather say that pakistan govt was fooled by jundal in trying to save him thinking that he is pak citizen.And every country's mission in foreign country provides assistance to its citizen.in jundal case pak local consulate got fooled in thinking he is pak citizen.

 

[ajtr]

BTW it is intriguing indians not blaming chinese for supporting terrorism by blocking UNSC resolution against hafiz saeed.Are indians afraid of chinese military action if they accuse chinese of 26/11

 

[Yusuf]

BTW it is intriguing indians not blaming chinese for supporting terrorism by blocking UNSC resolution against hafiz saeed.Are indians afraid of chinese military action if they accuse chinese of 26/11

Chinese terrorizes citizens under its control like East Turkestan and Tibet. State sponsored terror. Add to that China will fight India to the last Paki. No surprises that they will continue to block any action against Pak.

 

[ajtr]

Chinese terrorizes citizens under its control like East Turkestan and Tibet. State sponsored terror. Add to that China will fight India to the last Paki. No surprises that they will continue to block any action against Pak.

Chinese are supporting terrorist in India by helping Indians.I would say PRC will fight India to the last Indian and abu jundal is one of those Indian.even he confirmed Chinese citizen's role in 26/11 and Chinese help to northeast rebel groups and Maoists is no secret either.So why don't you accuse them of supporting terrorists in India.Is it the fear of CCP hammering you flat on the ground is stopping you from throwing direct accusations at PRC?

 

[sayareakd]

Coz pakistani govt thought he is pakistani citizen coz he was travelling on pakistani passport.Iwould rather say that pakistan govt was fooled by jundal in trying to save him thinking that he is pak citizen.And every country's mission in foreign country provides assistance to its citizen.in jundal case pak local consulate got fooled in thinking he is pak citizen.

who are you fooling Ajtr, first step is to check the passport details with the official record, Pakistan govt knew it was fake passport, still they for the year contested the claim of deportation and filed their own case against abu jindal.

Now Pakistan has mud all over their face...............

 

[ajtr]

who are you fooling Ajtr, first step is to check the passport details with the official record, Pakistan govt knew it was fake passport, still they for the year contested the claim of deportation and filed their own case against abu jindal.

Now Pakistan has mud all over their face...............

I'm fooling no one.Instead i'm rightfully arguing pakistan's case whom you indians are blaming without solid proof.

Regarding Abujundal's pakistani passport:How can pakistani govt. prove it fake if he had procured it genuinely by bribing officials as many bangladeshi's and pakistanis procure indian passports /voters id card pan cards etc in india.Take for following case as example:

Pakistan family overstays visa, held

Hooghly: Five members of a family, believed to be Pakistani nationals, were rounded up by CID officers on Monday. They have been charged with conspiracy under the Foreigners Act.
The family came on a tourist visa that had validity till May 2012. They had come to visit relative Osman Gani , who lives on RK Road in Hooghly's Serampore. During their stay, one of the members married Gani's relative and the family did notreturn to their country.
Using the certificate, they managed to obtain other documents like a PAN card and even opened bank accounts like Indian nationals. Everything in place, they decided to stay back permanently in India. Apart from conspiracy, CID officers have arrested them arrested all five for staying in India even after their visa had expired and forging documents.
They were also charged with conspiracy. The officers said they willinterrogate all the five family members to confirm whether they hold any links with spies or had any plans of sabotage plan in India.

In above case indian authorities had proof as visa to prove their pakistani identity when CID went chasing the family.But in Abu jundal's case pakistan might not have any proof to prove his indian identity as he entered pakistan illegally as many bangladeshis cross over the border illegally in india.So how can pakistan prove that he is indian as his passport was genuine.Can you prove that any bangladeshi who entered india illegally and who procured indian passport by bribing officials is a citizen of bangladesh.

 

[Yusuf]

Chinese are supporting terrorist in India by helping Indians.I would say PRC will fight India to the last Indian and abu jundal is one of those Indian.even he confirmed Chinese citizen's role in 26/11 and Chinese help to northeast rebel groups and Maoists is no secret either.So why don't you accuse them of supporting terrorists in India.Is it the fear of CCP hammering you flat on the ground is stopping you from throwing direct accusations at PRC?

Open secret that China is helping Maoists. What's new? We have already said that.

Google results here http://www.google.co.in/search?q=china+helping+maoists&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari will give you all the links.

 

[ajtr]

Open secret that China is helping Maoists. What's new? We have already said that.

Google results here china helping maoists - Google Search will give you all the links.

Those are accusation in feeble voice as if accusing with love.

 

[Yusuf]

Those are accusation in feeble voice as if accusing with love.

Classic troll deflecting the topic.

BTW, india has the Tibet card to play.

 

[ajtr]

Classic troll deflecting the topic.

BTW, india has the Tibet card to play.

India has already accepted tibet as part of china by recognizing "one china".I dont think any one today or in future indian leadership will have any spine to backtrack from one china policy.

 

[Yusuf]

India has already accepted tibet as part of china by recognizing "one china".I dont think any one today or in future indian leadership will have any spine to backtrack from one china policy.

One china is to do between PRC and ROC. Nothing to do with Tibet. India recognizes the "suzerainty" of Tibet not sovereignty for the Chinese.