Kaveri Engine

[Apollyon]

ToT to any PSU is useless

I am sure there are Indians working in P&W/GE/RR who would want to come back and work in India for enough . I am also sure GTRE has some world class engineers/metallurgists.

If GoI is willing, we can have a NASA/SpaceX type arrangement where government fund a startup with money, technology (GTRE) and infrastructure backed by world class talent.

 

[Vivek85]

For any technology devlopment funding is crucial. No one will sell u advanced tech.we need to develop or steal it and reverse engineer it as Chinese do.

 

[MonaLazy]

Getting "Know-why" is not an easy thing.

How about RR's proposal? Is know why part of that deal? I guess not.. they'll just deliver a core to match our specifications without teaching us how they did it. The only difference then is with the Brits it's one time lump sum payment for engine consultancy, while with the French it is that plus license fee for every copy every made.

If that's the case then both offers are cr@p and we need to pursue our own road to 110kN afterburning thrust. Use GEs engines till we get there.

 

[THESIS THORON]

HOOKE AND JAPAN

 

[Karthi]

Gas Generator – Nozzle Guide Vane (GG-NGV) using 3D printing forHTFE-25.

Intech Additive Solutions & Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) are the first in India to develop a 3D Printed Aero-Engine part using Superalloy CM 247LC.

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but i am more impressed with the fact that they developed developed 3D-Printing machines iFusion SF-1 & iFusion LF.

iFusion SF1 Metal 3D Printer is based on Powder Bed Fusion (PBF) technology. Over 30,000 man-hours of Innovation and R & D have gone into its development.

I fusion SF-1.



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The iFusion LF is a high-performance large format laser Metal 3D printer indigenously designed, developed, and manufactured by Intech Additive Solutions. The printer is combined with extensive features designed for the Industrial use of Metal additive Manufacturing.

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Intech Additive Solutions’ IFusion SFI is India’s first indigenously designed and developed Metal 3D Printer is integrated with inhouse developed Build ‘Build process software – AMBuilder’ & ‘AMOptomet – parameter optimising software’.

 

[Tang]

Guys don't keep your hopes high about french promising us the complete tech transfer . They may give us only "know-how" ,but not " Know-why". No will give us "Know-why" , no matter how much money we throw at them.

Also note that I'm not completely against this JV. My only concern is about our workshare in hot section of the engine.

We can only expect good from this JV if and only if we utilise our own experience and knowledge that GTRE had gained from the development of Kaveri's hot section.

If we are not using our own experience and knowledge of hot section & have no workshare in its development and if we are completely dependent on french for it ,then all the hardwork and R&D we have done all these years regarding materials ,SCBs,TBCs etc will have no value at all.

So if we are going for this JV, then we must have workshare not only in Cold section ,but also in hot section too, our past experiences and knowledge regarding this must be used at all cost.We must not completely dependent on french for this.

One question to all knowledgeable, what is India's contribution in Shakti engine.

 

[Dessert Storm]

One question to all knowledgeable, what is India's contribution in Shakti engine.

Willingness to learn and ability to invest.

 

[THESIS THORON]

One question to all knowledgeable, what is India's contribution in Shakti engine.

no contribution, India just produces it under license.

 

[MonaLazy]

what is India's contribution in Shakti engine.

More than 70% is TOT'd- ie made from Indian components. We must be paying Safran a licence fee per copy and balance 30 or so % components coming from France.

That 250 number is from early 2020 and had ballooned to 450 by early 2021.

We propose full technology transfer for engine to power next gen fighters: French manufacturer Safran

Our technologies make France one of the four countries in the world to master the complete development of a fighter jet engine. And if India needs us on this particularly strategic field, we will be there. Safran is definitely ready for a partnership with India, with the full support of the...

m.economictimes.com

Aero-India: We are in India for a long run and seeking more local partnerships, says Safran Executive Vice President, International and Public Affairs

Alexandre Ziegler, Executive Vice President, International and Public Affairs, Safran shares details about the projects and updates of the company with Huma Siddiqui.

www.financialexpress.com

HAL, French firm Safran ink MoU for strategic cooperation on high-thrust aero-engines

BENGALURU: HAL and Safran Aircraft Engines, France, on Friday signed an MoU at Aero India 2021 to explore opportunities for strategic business cooperation that

www.newindianexpress.com

 

[MonaLazy]

More than 70% is TOT'd- ie made from Indian components. We must be paying Safran a licence fee per copy and balance 30 or so % components coming from France.

100% Indian designed and manufactured components:

AERDC designed Oil Pump, Heat Exchanger, Filter housing unit and Pipe lines.

Engine and Accessories | रक्षा अनुसंधान एवं विकास संगठन (डी आर डी ओ)| भारत सरकार

Shakti Engine Shakti/Ardiden 1H1 engine is a turbo shaft engines power plant for Advanced Light Helicopter (ALH) Mk III & Mk IV and Light Combat Helicopter (LCH) operated by Indian Armed Forces. This engine designed jointly by M/s Turbomeca, France and AERDC, HAL.

www.drdo.gov.in

 

[INDIAFIRST]

Why this kolaveri happening with kaveri engine.

 

[Vamsi]

More than 70% is TOT'd- ie made from Indian components. We must be paying Safran a licence fee per copy and balance 30 or so % components coming from France.

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That 250 number is from early 2020 and had ballooned to 450 by early 2021.

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We propose full technology transfer for engine to power next gen fighters: French manufacturer Safran

Our technologies make France one of the four countries in the world to master the complete development of a fighter jet engine. And if India needs us on this particularly strategic field, we will be there. Safran is definitely ready for a partnership with India, with the full support of the...

m.economictimes.com

Aero-India: We are in India for a long run and seeking more local partnerships, says Safran Executive Vice President, International and Public Affairs

Alexandre Ziegler, Executive Vice President, International and Public Affairs, Safran shares details about the projects and updates of the company with Huma Siddiqui.

www.financialexpress.com

HAL, French firm Safran ink MoU for strategic cooperation on high-thrust aero-engines

BENGALURU: HAL and Safran Aircraft Engines, France, on Friday signed an MoU at Aero India 2021 to explore opportunities for strategic business cooperation that

www.newindianexpress.com

This Shakti engine didn't helped us in anyway in the development of HTSE-1200. HTSE-1200 is purely our own effort

 

[fire starter]

 

[Vamsi]

So, they are improving AB. That's a good news

 

[fire starter]

Maxon Engineering Technology to supply the Nickel based single crystal alloy powder for HPTR blade brazing to GTRE. 5/n

ALLREACH TECHNOLOGIES, ASSET STUDIO and TechFluent Solutions Pvt Ltd bids for Service for Kaveri Dry Engine Reliability Analysis has been accepted in the Technical Evaluation.

Godrej & Boyce Mfg. Co. Ltd has been selected for the "Development of Brazing Methodology for HPTR Blade" by GTRE. Their bid has been selected by the Techno-Commercial Evaluation Committee for financial bidding stages.

HINDUSTAN AERONAUTICS LIMITED KORAPUT ED bid has been selected for the Procurement of Non-Aerofoiled Turbine Casting.

 

[THESIS THORON]

so there will be 2 efforts to make engine
1. jv
2. improving on kaveri

so, can we expect k10 ?? or they will go for new design ??

 

[MonaLazy]

So, they are improving AB. That's a good news

Koschan- what's an AB got to do with dry Kaveri? Or are the two tweets in the thread about different Kaveri variants?

 

[Dessert Storm]

so there will be 2 efforts to make engine
1. jv
2. improving on kaveri

so, can we expect k10 ?? or they will go for new design ??

JV would be new design. Building on what we have should be the indigenous effort.

 

[THESIS THORON]

lets crowd fund it

 

[India Super Power]

lets crowd fund it

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Seriously ye kya chutiyapa hai
Bhai log dekho na yese kagi f-35 ka engine mil raha hai kya
1 toh crowd funding se kered sakte hai
Mujhe yaha pe amirooo ka list do personally ja kar mangunga