Kashmir Fateh Thread August 2019

[Deathstar]

Yes, they did show Kriti fighting against the Pashtuns.

Its outright ridiculous i feel , there will be outrage by the marathas here.

 

[Chanakya 002]

Delhi CP got booed in the press conference. Sorry sight. Why isn't action being taken against the errant lawyers? Is it so difficult to arrest a few goons who broke the law?

Delhi Police strikes, what a day

 

[Bhadra]

Key to capture Northern Areas is Close air support & Long range artillery & rockets with some precision missiles for strategic targets & high troops concentration atleast 7:1 & air superiority ,there will be high casualties in beginning but Indian army could march upto shaksgam valley if planned & executed at right time with element of surprise ,one game changer is BrahMos vertical steep dive can blow enemy logistics behind high himalayan mountains which supply enemy bunkers at heights which otherwise wouldn't be possible with artillery because of its ballistic trajectory & would have required PGM from Air forces but all this is theoretical our enemy is already muddled in its own cobwebs,if we attack now it would only unite them against the 'kuffars',let enemies internal faultlines deepen some more the salwar kameez fauj is literally despised by aam jihadis because of its impotency on kashmir with now even paki elites against the al baki army coupled with no economic respite for a 7th largest nation in terms of population by its traditional sugar daddies such as Saudi,UAE & USA ,let the pot simmer some more the stew will be much more delicious.View attachment 39866

That is the most obvious, costly and time consuming "direct approach". That is an option of last resort.

Tell us something about "strategy of Indirect approach " - something short, crisp, fast, furious and affordable - short of a nuclear blast.

 

[Bhadra]

Continuing from What I said In the Previous Comment Indian Army Must Strike Fast and Swift. Indian Army must be like the Nazi Army in WW2 during Operation Barbarossa and the US Army During First and Second Gulf War and Operation Overload. We must do a blitzkrieg with combined arms tactics like you said with Air Support and Heavy Artillery. Another Thing you missed was Supply. Supplies are essential in giving an Army Edge there Enemies in battle. When invading a Land Occupied by your enemy and they have local support there will be many problems with supplies reaching your troops. Since we are doing a Deep Battle/Blitzkrieg Tactic we will have to stretch our supply lines like never before. To make this tactic a Success we must Robust Supply Lines protected from IEDs and Porki Missile or Airstrike. PorkiShitani Dogs and ISI will use Local Pisslam Terrorists as like a strike squad lunching fidiween Attacks against Indian Army supply depots and Supply Convoy in the locals village areas. We might see some local resistances movements led by stragglers of PorkiShitani Hijida Army in Pisslam Villages in Gligit Baltistan so we must increase our RR, BSF and CRPF battalion Numbers to combat these dogs. Overall Gilgit Baltistan would Indian Army ‘s Greatest Challenge Yet. Ones Captured it will never go back to Porki Camel Piss Drinker Dogs ‘s Hands ever again.

It is good for you to talk about Barbaross but can one put that tamplet on Pakistan ? A hundred km dash will take you to Tehran or Kabul. Forget Barbaross just do Yom Kippur.

Suplies ? What supplies? just go 10 km inside Pakistan you have plenty of water, grain mandies, green belt and good roads - have makke di roti and sarron da sag from second day onwards. Indian Army will surely be let down by main source of supply - the OFB. They all need Sitaram Yechury and Roul Gandhi's permission to supply things to Armed Forces,

think big, capture Lahore and you would have got POK in your lap without much fight. Just 30 km dash....within artillery range from Amritsar..

Think big and do big to gain big...

 

[Bhadra]

Delhi Police strikes, what a day

I too am too pained by the situation ... Police on strike ?? No agency has the right to wield dundas if they can not take on dundas... Police can not claim an exclusive right to physical violence and then go on strike to demand so...

Poor Army fellows - the true and only slaves of India....

 

[ashdoc]

Yes, they did show Kriti fighting against the Pashtuns.

Kriti plays wife of the maratha commander sadashivraobhau . Name is parvati-bai . It is a historical fact that she used to carry a naked sword with her . But she did not participate in the actual battle.

However when pathans came to dishonor her after they won the battle she used her sword to cut some of them. She escaped unharmed from the battle.

She refused to believe her husband was dead after the battle and refused to remove her mangalsutra and sindoor . An impostor tried to take advantage of this and claimed he was sadashivraobhau and had escaped from the battle. But the next peshwa madhavrao exposed him as imposter.

 

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[ashdoc]

What does Females have to do with Panipat. It was Battle Between Marathas and Pashtuns? I feel like this going to end up like Another Humiliation Movie? Why I have feeling Hindus love to make movies about there greatest defeats.

Yeah it's another glorious humiliation movie. It's made by marathi filmmaker ashutosh gowarikar of jodha akbar fame .

 

[ashdoc]

Posted the trailer in the chit chat thread. Let us know your thoughts on the trailer and it’s historical accuracy.

It shows abdali and sadashivraobhau meeting face to face , something that is not true. They never met each other.

 

[Bosch]

Bollywood could have made a movie on Chandra Gupta Maurya defeating Selucus or when an invader was defeated in the I Battle of Tarain by Prithviraj. Instead we get Panipat.

 

[Icarus]

Kriti plays wife of the maratha commander sadashivraobhau . Name is parvati-bai . It is a historical fact that she used to carry a naked sword with her . But she did not participate in the actual battle.

However when pathans came to dishonor her after they won the battle she used her sword to cut some of them. She escaped unharmed from the battle.

She refused to believe her husband was dead after the battle and refused to remove her mangalsutra and sindoor . An impostor tried to take advantage of this and claimed he was sadashivraobhau and had escaped from the battle. But the next peshwa madhavrao exposed him as imposter.

Real story is as corny as Bollywood. Lol.

 

[Flying Dagger]

Bollywood could have made a movie on Chandra Gupta Maurya defeating Selucus or when an invader was defeated in the I Battle of Tarain by Prithviraj. Instead we get Panipat.

Even panipat wasn't an outright defeat both party suffered heavily . The refusal by other kingdoms to engage abdali could be highlighted to teach Hindus what they lack and should overcome. There is always a way to show the positive side. But bollywood wont do that.

 

[ashdoc]

Real story is as corny as Bollywood. Lol.

There were imposters of other marathas who died in the battle , like that of jankoji shinde/scindia who was ancestor of scindias of gwalior . Nobody could make out who was dead or alive in the fog of war .

 

[Sikhbrah]

Yeah it's another glorious humiliation movie. It's made by marathi filmmaker ashutosh gowarikar of jodha akbar fame .

To be fair, the political climate has changed a lot since Jodha Akbar.

If the movie released today - it wouldn’t fare well. India isn’t as “sickular” as it used to be before the internet arrived.

 

[Sikhbrah]

Even panipat wasn't an outright defeat both party suffered heavily . The refusal by other kingdoms to engage abdali could be highlighted to teach Hindus what they lack and should overcome. There is always a way to show the positive side. But bollywood wont do that.

Well, I felt Padmavat showed Rajputs in much more positive light compared to the Khilji (even in defeat).

This movie could be something like that.

 

[Deathstar]

I want this movie to show the betrayal of Hindu forces. No one supported the Marathas against Abdali. Where were the mighty Rajputs yeh?????. Marathas had their flag flying on attock , captured Delhi but were betrayed by their Hindu brethren.
Imagine if Rajput forces had joined Marathas against Abdali. He would have been decimated .
This movie should the humiliation of Hindus to make them realize that Unity is strength.
Where were the Sikhs at that time????

 

[Flying Dagger]

Well, I felt Padmavat showed Rajputs in much more positive light compared to the Khilji (even in defeat).

This movie could be something like that.

They actually made Khilji a star and common house name . It wasn't until Karni sena hit Bhansali hard that he changed a lot of things.

For e.g he was planning to cast mawaad Khan from porkistan, a dream song sequence b/w Khilji and Rani padmavati etc to name a few.

Though i think it comes from the environment Bhansali is brought in and the secular fabric that Hindus have responsibility to keep clean else he seems to have a connect with Indic vision.

 

[Sikhbrah]

I want this movie to show the betrayal of Hindu forces. No one supported the Marathas against Abdali. Where were the mighty Rajputs yeh?????. Marathas had their flag flying on attock , captured Delhi but were betrayed by their Hindu brethren.
Imagine if Rajput forces had joined Marathas against Abdali. He would have been decimated .
This movie should the humiliation of Hindus to make them realize that Unity is strength.
Where were the Sikhs at that time????

Sikhs were pretending neutral (Patiala Sikh King even supported Abdali) and rajputs were more concern about their own small kingdoms.

Historically India has always been a clusterfck of selfish kingdoms with no sense of vision or unity for the greater cause.

 

[Bhadra]

I want this movie to show the betrayal of Hindu forces. No one supported the Marathas against Abdali. Where were the mighty Rajputs yeh?????. Marathas had their flag flying on attock , captured Delhi but were betrayed by their Hindu brethren.
Imagine if Rajput forces had joined Marathas against Abdali. He would have been decimated .
This movie should the humiliation of Hindus to make them realize that Unity is strength.
Where were the Sikhs at that time????

Where were Marathas when Akbar and Man Singh were raping Rajputana ?
No one sided comments please ?

 

[ashdoc]

I want this movie to show the betrayal of Hindu forces. No one supported the Marathas against Abdali. Where were the mighty Rajputs yeh?????. Marathas had their flag flying on attock , captured Delhi but were betrayed by their Hindu brethren.
Imagine if Rajput forces had joined Marathas against Abdali. He would have been decimated .
This movie should the humiliation of Hindus to make them realize that Unity is strength.
Where were the Sikhs at that time????

Marathas ignored the sikhs upto some extent ( not completely) when they conquered the Punjab before the battle. But ala Singh jat of patiala helped them at the time of the battle by supplying them food when they were trapped . After the battle sikhs pounced upon retreating afghan forces and liberated maratha women captured by Afghans and thus honoured themselves by not concentrating on looting the treasure carried by Afghans looted from India by rather concentrating on liberation of women .

Rajputs had been shamelessly looted by marathas in years preceding the battle. So I won't blame the rajputs much . In fact rajputs were writing letters to abdali after the battle to come again to liberate them from marathas when marathas recovered from the battle and again pushed into north India.

Jat raja Suraj mal did accompany marathas with 10000 jat soldiers to the battle but when he asked the maratha women to be left behind in the safety of his territory sadashivraobhau said he was not going to listen to advice of a mere zamindar !! Suraj mal rightly felt insulted and left the maratha camp before the forces advanced to battle.