JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

[SilentKiller]

about what?

MAA-1B?if so than posted above already

nope...

for this
yes i heard so.because there is no missile even remotely equal to PL-9c neither would be any in active service for the next few years.

 

[farhan_9909]

nope...

for this
yes i heard so.because there is no missile even remotely equal to PL-9c neither would be any in active service for the next few years.

hard for me to find out this.
and is not reported in any western media

 

[SilentKiller]

hard for me to find out this.
and is not reported in any western media

need to know as anything we quote has to have some thing behind it.
:cool2:

if u can bring the source only then what u post will have weight.

 

[Apollyon]

@Armand2REP , please translate

 

[Armand2REP]

A darter is in development and we cant wait 3-4 more years..
in the mean time we will get MAA-1B which is considered almost comparable to python 4.

Hence is a good WVR

Brasil has awarded a contract to Denel to build a factory in São José dos Campos to make A-Darter. When Rafale wins F-X2, it will be installed with it as well as all other fighters. A-Darter will finish its trials this year... no MAA-1B completion in sight. What reason is there for Brasil to continue with MAA-1B? It looks like they already gave up on it.

 

[Apollyon]

well the heading says "Pakistan: The JF-17 in suspension"

 

[farhan_9909]

Brasil has awarded a contract to Denel to build a factory in São José dos Campos to make A-Darter. When Rafale wins F-X2, it will be installed with it as well as all other fighters. A-Darter will finish its trials this year... no MAA-1B completion in sight. What reason is there for Brasil to continue with MAA-1B? It looks like they already gave up on it.

SO you think PAF is lying and so does the Janes?

MAA-1B may be delivered this or next year to PAF.

A darter might enter into production in 2015 but again it wont be ready for export till 2017.

in the Mean tile we will get MAA-1B and onwards 2017 we may either go for A darter(already paf has shown interest in a darter) or if the chinese 5th gen wvr is allowed for export than we can get that

 

[farhan_9909]

Pakistan will procure Brazilian-made Mectron MAA-1B Piranha 2 short-range infrared-guided air-to-air missiles to arm its Chinese-made JF-17 fighters, according to Pakistani press reports on 5 November. The procurement is reportedly for 100 missiles at a cost of USD108 million.


Pakistan had taken delivery of the MAA-1A Piranha 1 version of this missile in 2010 and had signed a letter of intent to order the more advanced MAA-1B. The reported order would be the first known export sale for the MAA-1B, currently planned to enter service with the Brazilian Air Force in 2012.

Pakistan to order Brazilian MAA-1B air-to-air missiles - Jane's Missiles and Rockets

 

[Armand2REP]

@Armand2REP , please translate

China has withdrawn from the Sino-Pakistan fighter project. Islamabad is alone to finance its development.

Is this the end of the JF-17? There is uncertainty about the program since China decided to retire with the utmost secrecy about a year ago. Officially, the light fighter no longer meets the needs of its air force.

Signed in 1999, the partnership focused on the development and manufacture of a multirole aircraft in partnership with the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) and several Chinese companies including Chengdu Aerospace Corporation. The PAF wanted to develop an aircraft to replace its fleet of F-7P and Mirage III / V by 2015. In June 2009, she began the serial production of JF-17 aircraft at the Kamra complex which is 80km from Islamabad (see Air & Cosmos # 2196). Three squadrons, about 50 aircraft are in service today. Problem: the development of the JF-17 is not completed and the aircraft is not fully operational. Several weapons originally forseen have not been validated. The engine, a Klimov RD-93 suffers from 50 year old Soviet-designed technology : emission of air fumes, large thermal signature, lack of thrust ... With the withdrawal of China, PAF is now left by itself to complete the development of its aircraft which could cost them dearly. They will buy the parts from Chinese subcontractors... have to get back to work... blah blah should Pakistan cancel it blah, relying on Mirage would be stupid blah export to Africa Asia blah Pakistan is broke with difficult decisions blah blah.

 

[farhan_9909]

Cheap effort from french side

While Serbia is on the verge of selecting JFT against rafale.now they are playing this dirty game

JFT and rafale are shortlisted in the serbian tender.

Rafale dan JF-17 Akan Bertarung di Serbia - KOMPAS.com

meanwhile they have shown JFT photo not rafale
speaks of the volume of the JFT support

for complete detail visit the militarycity site and with google translater help read all the posts related to the jft and Rafale.
JFT support is much more..though mig 35 is not in the list otherwise the member support mig 35 even more

 

[Apollyon]

Cheap effort from french side

While Serbia is on the verge of selecting JFT against rafale.now they are playing this dirty game
JFT and rafale are shortlisted in the serbian tender.
Rafale dan JF-17 Akan Bertarung di Serbia - KOMPAS.com

Serbia intended to buy a plane which can serve it well for next several decades. If not Rafale then Eurofighter or JAS 39 Grippen-NG would be the better choice and Mig-29/35, F-18 and F-16 also competing.
Serbia is in "waiting list" of European Union Membership so buying a Chinese plane is out of question.

PS: Only inbreeding can explain your moronic comments

 

[Armand2REP]

Cheap effort from french side

While Serbia is on the verge of selecting JFT against rafale.now they are playing this dirty game

JFT and rafale are shortlisted in the serbian tender.

Rafale dan JF-17 Akan Bertarung di Serbia - KOMPAS.com

meanwhile they have shown JFT photo not rafale
speaks of the volume of the JFT support

Guy. France doesn't have anything to do with it. Serbia is integrating into NATO which automatically rules out JF-17. They can't afford new fighters so will buy used F-16s or old Gripens.

 

[Shirman]

Cheap effort from french side

While Serbia is on the verge of selecting JFT against rafale.now they are playing this dirty game

JFT and rafale are shortlisted in the serbian tender.

Rafale dan JF-17 Akan Bertarung di Serbia - KOMPAS.com

I Still remember in 2006-07 There were Pakis who were cursing Saudis when they downselected Typhoon instead of their favorite Rafale via Al-Yamamah Deal on Paki Defence Forums way back when in 2005 Pakis were MOUTHWATERING RAFALES when Mushi was in Europe Pushing French for Rafales, Swedes for Gripens n Italians for Typhoons (obviously out of capability to buy for Pakis) Pakis settled for Donated F-16s Blk-50s for their so called effort on War on TERROR...lol.....

Now Today the Paki of this forum calls French Cheap n Rafale inferior....So only thing that makes Rafales Inferior is for Infidel Indian HINDOOS to USE it against Superior ALLAH BLESSED HIGH QUALITY PAKIS................. PAKI KI MENTALITY INSHALLAH :thumb::taunt1:

 

[gokussj9]

Serbia intended to buy a plane which can serve it well for next several decades. If not Rafale then Eurofighter or JAS 39 Grippen-NG would be the better choice and Mig-29/35, F-18 and F-16 also competing.
Serbia is in "waiting list" of European Union Membership so buying a Chinese plane is out of question.

PS: Only inbreeding can explain your moronic comments

This Farhan has ignored most of the members who guide him to his respective shit hole
so he cannot read our comments.

 

[farhan_9909]

Guy. France doesn't have anything to do with it. Serbia is integrating into NATO which automatically rules out JF-17. They can't afford new fighters so will buy used F-16s or old Gripens.

if so than why the above magazine has written so?

anyway they have neither shortlisted Gripen nor old F-16

 

[farhan_9909]

I Still remember in 2006-07 There were Pakis who were cursing Saudis when they downselected Typhoon instead of their favorite Rafale via Al-Yamamah Deal on Paki Defence Forums way back when in 2005 Pakis were MOUTHWATERING RAFALES when Mushi was in Europe Pushing French for Rafales, Swedes for Gripens n Italians for Typhoons (obviously out of capability to buy for Pakis) Pakis settled for Donated F-16s Blk-50s for their so called effort on War on TERROR...lol.....

Now Today the Paki of this forum calls French Cheap n Rafale inferior....So only thing that makes Rafales Inferior is for Infidel Indian HINDOOS to USE it against Superior ALLAH BLESSED HIGH QUALITY PAKIS................. LA ILLAH ILL-ALLAH PAKI KI MENTALITY INSHALLAH :thumb::taunt1:

Post reported for writing wrong Kalma


Edited.

 

[farhan_9909]

"Iraq is currently negotiating for 18 used French Mirage 2000s and 6 US F16 plus is reported to be considering 24 Chinese Jf-17s"

Montrose Toast - Blog

 

[Armand2REP]

if so than why the above magazine has written so?

anyway they have neither shortlisted Gripen nor old F-16

It doesn't say so. It says Rafale will likely compete. It doesn't say JF-17 and Rafale are shortlisted.

They haven't shortlisted anything... the tender hasn't even begun.

 

[farhan_9909]

South african HMD being tested for JFT
image from official paf documentory

 

[farhan_9909]

It doesn't say so. It says Rafale will likely compete. It doesn't say JF-17 and Rafale are shortlisted.

They haven't shortlisted anything... the tender hasn't even begun.

the language is french?
translate it please