INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

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Anything we talk about INSAS and it’s derivatives is waste of time. It is mostly for the history buffs. In short while the newest Ak-203 will be in Indian soldier’s hands on top of Sig rifle is already proving very effective at the LOC.

Hence talk less and less of INSAS and concentrate your energies on newer rifles and it’s effectiveness against whatever shit the Chinese soldiers carry and whatever 40 years old rifle, the Pakistani soldiers carry.
 

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Anything we talk about INSAS and it’s derivatives is waste of time. It is mostly for the history buffs. In short while the newest Ak-203 will be in Indian soldier’s hands on top of Sig rifle is already proving very effective at the LOC.

Hence talk less and less of INSAS and concentrate your energies on newer rifles and it’s effectiveness against whatever shit the Chinese soldiers carry and whatever 40 years old rifle, the Pakistani soldiers carry.
If you want that, please use another thread as this is the INSAS Rifle Family thread, where ideally you’ll only see INSAS and it’s derivatives.
 

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If you want that, please use another thread as this is the INSAS Rifle Family thread, where ideally you’ll only see INSAS and it’s derivatives.
‘This is the right thread to turn off the excessive discussion on a weapon whose time is over and is being replaced. ……..
 

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Anything we talk about INSAS and it’s derivatives is waste of time. It is mostly for the history buffs. In short while the newest Ak-203 will be in Indian soldier’s hands on top of Sig rifle is already proving very effective at the LOC.

Hence talk less and less of INSAS and concentrate your energies on newer rifles and it’s effectiveness against whatever shit the Chinese soldiers carry and whatever 40 years old rifle, the Pakistani soldiers carry.
It will still take a lot of time for INSAS to be phased out of service from IA, let alone the other branches, various paramilitaries and Police Forces. Till then the discussions would be relevant.

Good to see you bro!
 

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It will still take a lot of time for INSAS to be phased out of service from IA, let alone the other branches, various paramilitaries and Police Forces. Till then the discussions would be relevant.

Good to see you bro!
Agree with you…..
 

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‘This is the right thread to turn off the excessive discussion on a weapon whose time is over and is being replaced. ……..
Dont know why people are still obsessed with this shitty Insas rifle. Neither it performs well not does it look good. Also, it is being replaced and this will be completed in the next few years. I dont know why people still talk so much about this failed product.

There are newer guns to talk about like the Sigs, 203s, MCIWS (or whatever its new name is), JVPC etc etc.

Anyone has any news on MCIWS or SSS assault rifles?
 

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Dont know why people are still obsessed with this shitty Insas rifle. Neither it performs well not does it look good. Also, it is being replaced and this will be completed in the next few years. I dont know why people still talk so much about this failed product.

There are newer guns to talk about like the Sigs, 203s, MCIWS (or whatever its new name is), JVPC etc etc.

Anyone has any news on MCIWS or SSS assault rifles?
‘Thank you for trying to turn off discussion on INSAS which will no longer be in use.
 

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Dont know why people are still obsessed with this shitty Insas rifle. Neither it performs well not does it look good. Also, it is being replaced and this will be completed in the next few years. I dont know why people still talk so much about this failed product.

There are newer guns to talk about like the Sigs, 203s, MCIWS (or whatever its new name is), JVPC etc etc.

Anyone has any news on MCIWS or SSS assault rifles?
Possibly produced in the 100s of thousands. Not bad for a failed product.
 

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OFB AWAITS ARMY NOD FOR BULK PRODUCTION OF 7.62 X 51MM ASSAULT RIFLES
The official added that “Board of Officers from the Ministry of Home Affairs had also conducted extensive trials of the assault rifle and termed it a reliable weapon which can be introduced with the paramilitary forces too”

The Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) is at present uncertain as to when the Indian Army will place orders with its Ishapore Rifle Factory, in West Bengal, so it can begin bulk manufacturing of the 7.62x51mm assault rifle, launched during the ‘Atmanirbhar Week’.

With the Central government stressing on its self reliance scheme that hopes to boost manufacturing in India, the defence sector is now relying on indigenous products. A ban was put on import of 101 defence items which included assault rifles of 7.62 mm calibres.

An OFB official, requesting anonymity, told The Statesman, “The Ishapore Rifle Factory had developed a prototype of the 7.62x51mm rifle in response to the Uri attack in September 2016 and OFB intended to build a more powerful rifle than its INSAS 5.56 mm calibre rifles. The prototype was developed in a record four months which “impressed” the Ministry of Defence who formed a Project Monitoring Team (PMT) to guide the “developmental” process”

“The weapon is now in a perfected stage. But we are unable to begin bulk manufacturing of the rifles till the Army places the orders for its procurement” said the official.

The official added that “Board of Officers from the Ministry of Home Affairs had also conducted extensive trials of the assault rifle and termed it a reliable weapon which can be introduced with the paramilitary forces too.”

However, the recent Defence Acquisition Council 2020 meeting led to the approval and subsequent announcement of procuring a second batch of about 72000 assault rifles of the same calibre from American SiG-Sauer at a cost of aprrox.780 crore. OFB sources said the Ishapore factory’s lethal 7.62x51mm automatic rifle, with a firing range of 500m, was assembled and test fired at the factory range with “much satisfactory results”. The rifle can fire 300 rounds at a go and has picatinny rails for mounting sights and other platforms. It was pointed out that Ishapore factory had also manufactured a 7.62 mm calibre semi automatic rifle for the Army during 1962 war with China.
 

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OFB AWAITS ARMY NOD FOR BULK PRODUCTION OF 7.62 X 51MM ASSAULT RIFLES
The official added that “Board of Officers from the Ministry of Home Affairs had also conducted extensive trials of the assault rifle and termed it a reliable weapon which can be introduced with the paramilitary forces too”

The Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) is at present uncertain as to when the Indian Army will place orders with its Ishapore Rifle Factory, in West Bengal, so it can begin bulk manufacturing of the 7.62x51mm assault rifle, launched during the ‘Atmanirbhar Week’.

With the Central government stressing on its self reliance scheme that hopes to boost manufacturing in India, the defence sector is now relying on indigenous products. A ban was put on import of 101 defence items which included assault rifles of 7.62 mm calibres.

An OFB official, requesting anonymity, told The Statesman, “The Ishapore Rifle Factory had developed a prototype of the 7.62x51mm rifle in response to the Uri attack in September 2016 and OFB intended to build a more powerful rifle than its INSAS 5.56 mm calibre rifles. The prototype was developed in a record four months which “impressed” the Ministry of Defence who formed a Project Monitoring Team (PMT) to guide the “developmental” process”

“The weapon is now in a perfected stage. But we are unable to begin bulk manufacturing of the rifles till the Army places the orders for its procurement” said the official.

The official added that “Board of Officers from the Ministry of Home Affairs had also conducted extensive trials of the assault rifle and termed it a reliable weapon which can be introduced with the paramilitary forces too.”

However, the recent Defence Acquisition Council 2020 meeting led to the approval and subsequent announcement of procuring a second batch of about 72000 assault rifles of the same calibre from American SiG-Sauer at a cost of aprrox.780 crore. OFB sources said the Ishapore factory’s lethal 7.62x51mm automatic rifle, with a firing range of 500m, was assembled and test fired at the factory range with “much satisfactory results”. The rifle can fire 300 rounds at a go and has picatinny rails for mounting sights and other platforms. It was pointed out that Ishapore factory had also manufactured a 7.62 mm calibre semi automatic rifle for the Army during 1962 war with China.
First few of these are correctly produced and then the quality goes to hell. The Army should never patronize this rifle from Ishapore. Otherwise INSAS story will be repeated.
 

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First few of these are correctly produced and then the quality goes to hell. The Army should never patronize this rifle from Ishapore. Otherwise INSAS story will be repeated.
I completely agree. Just put the Ishapore assault rifle side by side with Sig Sauer & check out the difference in the quality of manufacture. The Sig Sauer appears like it has been professionally manufactured while the Ishapore rifle looks like it has been manufactured by some gunsmith in Dera Adam Khel. BTW, all the Insas rifles too have a very poor finish. I am so glad that they will be thrown into the dumpster soon.
 

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