INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

[WolfPack86]

DRDO's carbine successfully completes Army's user trials
At a time when the Indian Army is hunting for a new carbine, a DRDO-designed 5.56x30 mm protective carbine has successfully undergone the final phase of user trials on December 7, 2020, meeting all the qualitative parameters.

The Army has been looking for a carbine for many years. Recently, its tender was stuck at the final stage in which a middle-Eastern weapon was selected.

The successful trial of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) carbine has paved the way for induction into the services. This was the last leg of trials in a series of user trials which have been carried out in extreme temperature conditions in summer and high altitudes in winter.

According to the Defence Ministry, the Joint Venture Protective Carbine (JVPC) has successfully met the stringent performance criteria of reliability and accuracy in addition to quality trials conducted by the Directorate General of Quality Assurance (DGQA).

JVPC is a gas-operated semi-bull-pup automatic weapon having more than 700 rpm rate of fire. The effective range of the carbine is more than 100 m and weighs about 3.0 kg with key features like high reliability, low recoil, retractable butt, ergonomic design, single hand firing capability, and multiple picatinny rails etc. These features make it a very potent weapon for counter-insurgency/counter-terrorism operations by security agencies.

The carbine has been designed as per the Indian Army's GSQR, by the Armament Research and Development Establishment (ARDE), a Pune based laboratory of DRDO. The weapon is manufactured at a small-arms factory, Kanpur while the ammunition is manufactured at an ammunition factory, Kirkee Pune.

The weapon has already passed the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) trials and procurement action is initiated by the Central Armed Police Forces (CAPFs) and various state police organisations.

Defence Minister Rajnath Singh had unveiled the 5.56 x 30 mm JVPC during DefExpo- 2020 at Lucknow.

DRDO's carbine successfully completes Army's user trials

At a time when the Indian Army is hunting for a new carbine, a DRDO-designed 5.56x30 mm protective carbine has successfully undergone the final phase of user trials on December 7, 2020, meeting all the qualitative parameters. The Army has been looking for a carbine for many years. Recently, its...

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[Automatic Kalashnikov]

If the army selects the JVPC, how many calibres does it want to operate with?
1. 7.62*51
2. 7.62*39
3. 5.56*45
4. 5.56*30
5. 9*19

 

[vampyrbladez]

I do think they should shorten the barrel by 4 inches. 5.56*30 isn't a rifle caliber round and any barrel length over 8" won't make a meaningful difference in terms of velocity gained. And add a monolithic rail, for fuck's sake. And a bolt catch and bolt release. Makes operating it much easier. The front sight post should also be moved. A quad rail would be nice, too.

Compare it to the HK MP7.

I did compare it to the MP7. They have some significant differences :

• 5.56x30 >>> 4.6x30 mm

• The MP7 is 1 Kg lighter than the JVPC.

• The HK33 style of charging handle on the JVPC will not allow for a full length picatinny rail.

• The barrel issue is true, however there is a catch. To maintain a similar KE as the 5.56x30 mm, the 4.6x30 mm has a higher muzzle velocity which leads to a louder supersonic crack.

• You need the silencer on the MP7 to keep it safe-ish for hearing. There is also much higher barrel pressure in a smaller barreled gun.

 

[FalconSlayers]

If the army selects the JVPC, how many calibres does it want to operate with?
1. 7.62*51
2. 7.62*39
3. 5.56*45
4. 5.56*30
5. 9*19

JVPC is a PDW, not for operational use but for Personal Defence use for suppose training, Military Police, Signals corps, or even some for Ghatak and Paras.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

JVPC is a PDW, not for operational use but for Personal Defence use for suppose training, Military Police, Signals corps, or even some for Ghatak and Paras.

Still ammunition of a new a new calibre will be needed.

 

[MisraZ]

I did compare it to the MP7. They have some significant differences :

• 5.56x30 >>> 4.6x30 mm

• The MP7 is 1 Kg lighter than the JVPC.

• The HK33 style of charging handle on the JVPC will not allow for a full length picatinny rail.

• The barrel issue is true, however there is a catch. To maintain a similar KE as the 5.56x30 mm, the 4.6x30 mm has a higher muzzle velocity which leads to a louder supersonic crack.

• You need the silencer on the MP7 to keep it safe-ish for hearing. There is also much higher barrel pressure in a smaller barreled gun.

ARDE should design another compact version of JVPC for spec ops with smaller barrel (say 6"-8"), re-positioned charging handle, better buttstock( telescopic is not necessarily good, we can have a folding one where buttstock once folded acts as a front grip) and quad rails ( top rail preferably full length).

 

[WolfPack86]

@DRDO_India
designed #JVPC Carbine (5.56x30mm) completes final user-trial meeting all GSQRs of #IndianArmy
JVPC firing.
#JVPC has completed trials when Army Chief Gen MM Naravane was in #UAE which was hard pitching for its #Caracal carbines for #IndianArmy
DRDO release says that the 5.56x30 mm Joint Venture Protective Carbine #JVPC has successfully undergone the final phase of user trials on Dec 7 meeting all GSQR parameters. This has paved the way for induction into the Services
JVPC firing.

 

[vishnugupt]

It seem our top generals have been screwed perfectly by someone from MOD or PMO that's why things start moving into right directions. Even OFB made guns are clearing trials with flying colours while DRDO and HAL are on beast mode.

10 out 10 marks to Modi for making Armed forces, DRDO and others streamlined by making them accountable and time bound.

In next few years, Things will reverse where DRDO/Manufacturers will pressurise Armed forces for orders as there will be more and more weapons are clearing trials on daily basis.

 

[another_armchair]

Where does the Army intend to field the JVPC?

In CQB or as a PDW, replacing the sterling?

 

[samsaptaka]

It seem our top generals have been screwed perfectly by someone from MOD or PMO that's why things start moving into right directions. Even OFB made guns are clearing trials with flying colours while DRDO and HAL are on beast mode.

10 out 10 marks to Modi for making Armed forces, DRDO and others streamlined by making them accountable and time bound.

In next few years, Things will reverse where DRDO/Manufacturers will pressurise Armed forces for orders as there will be more and more weapons are clearing trials on daily basis.

Hold your horses mate ! Thing is yet to be inducted, if OFB's track record is anything to go by, once they start mass producing this, it might turn out to be of shitty quality (though the DRDO design seems to be a winner). Hence the urgent need to hand over production to pvt players and shut down OFB !

 

[samsaptaka]

Where does the Army intend to field the JVPC?

In CQB or as a PDW, replacing the sterling?

I really hope its to replace Sterling - that ancient relic of WW II !

 

[ManhattanProject]

Sometimes i think this back and forth bullshit of IMPORT IMPORT IMPORT -> NOPE,. We gon hab make in India maal -> SHIT IT DON'T WORK, EMERGANZY PROCUEMENT NAO!!!!! is all a co-operative scheme by OFB/DRDO kamchors and Import lobby, OFB/DRDO chuts are gainfully employed by their make in India jhumlas, and Import dalals continue getting paid because of emergency procurements or phoren ToT deals

Only the warfighting capabilities of Indian AF and Army suffer, but hey, it's 2020, wars don't happen, how does it matter, i'm getting paid bc

calling DRDO kaamchor is just stupid, they are one of the most innovative people in the indian defence sector. From missiles to howitzers they make alot of things.

 

[Tactical Doge]

calling DRDO kaamchor is just stupid, they are one of the most innovative people in the indian defence sector. From missiles to howitzers they make alot of things.

I think he meant the ordnance people

 

[WolfPack86]

Significant: The Indian Joint Venture Protective Carbine (JVPC) has completed final user trials with the Indian Army, says the
@DRDO_India
. The weapon had earlier been rejected. Statement from the DRDO:

 

[vishnugupt]

Hold your horses mate ! Thing is yet to be inducted, if OFB's track record is anything to go by, once they start mass producing this, it might turn out to be of shitty quality (though the DRDO design seems to be a winner). Hence the urgent need to hand over production to pvt players and shut down OFB !

Sooner or later OFB and PSUs, they all are bound to dead. moreover, Armed forces has freedom to choose manufacturers if private company possess the capacity.
Today if private companies don't have manufacturing capacity to manufacture a gun then what we are going to do?? Just reject the Carbine?

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

JVPC is product of a joint venture between SAF Kanpur (OFB) and ARDE(DRDO). It's earlier avatar called Milaap was a SAF Kanpur product, which went head to head with Amogh carbine(based on INSAS) and emerged as a winner around 2010. However, there were still some firing issues with Milaap, so the help of ARDE was sought and subsequently, it was named Joint Venture Production carbine (JVPC). Hence, its production can't be handed to private sector, since from the beginning it was an OFB product. DRDO can do that with MCIWS though, which is its own design.
Similarly, INSAS base design was a DRDO design. However, the current avatar of INSAS that is Excalibur MK1C and 7.62*51mm R2 is OFB product.

 

[Cruise missile]

Hold your horses mate ! Thing is yet to be inducted, if OFB's track record is anything to go by, once they start mass producing this, it might turn out to be of shitty quality (though the DRDO design seems to be a winner). Hence the urgent need to hand over production to pvt players and shut down OFB !

I heard that bharat forge will supply most of its components.

 

[another_armchair]

How does this compare with the FN-P90 in terms of usability and utility for the end user?

 

[Illusive]

calling DRDO kaamchor is just stupid, they are one of the most innovative people in the indian defence sector. From missiles to howitzers they make alot of things.

DRDO is a big org, kaamchor bhi hai usme. Right now there is no 1 else in this country with DRDO's resources.

 

[vishnugupt]

Where does the Army intend to field the JVPC?

In CQB or as a PDW, replacing the sterling?

IA can use in Kashmir for counter insergency especially in Urban warfare.
Moreover, Clearing Army trials has its own significance as it is the most stringent form of trial. no trials exist beyond it so JVPC can readily induct by CISF, Police, VIPs protection groups, CRPF, and others.