The requirements change with customers. Not all police forces are involved in CI or active battle situations, hence their requirement would not be as stringent as Army's. Only exception in this case would be Commando or QRT teams.
INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine
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If OFB 7.62*51mm AR-2 meets the GSQR then there is no point in buying foreign rifles.
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Madhya Pradesh Police HAWK Commandos
All carrying OFB Made Excalibur Rifle
Every Indian Made small arm rejected by Army is in service with Chattisgarh Police. They also have Excalibur MK-1 and ordered new JVPC & Sniper rifle from OFB. Chattisgarh is like our Afghan war where we test our smallarms. Just like western forces do in Afghanistan.
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"Every Indian Made small arm rejected by Army is in service with Chattisgarh Police. They also have Excalibur MK-1 and ordered new JVPC & Sniper rifle from OFB. Chattisgarh is like our Afghan war where we test our smallarms. Just like western forces do in Afghanistan."
This lines shows the open mindedness for experimentation with eqipments, I hope they finally gove valuable inputs to the makers so that all small arms can be made even more better than what they are now.
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Had an opportunity to speak with Tamil Nadu Police Armoury guy, he said dat they have Excalibur MK1 in service along with amough...however sad part is amough procured years back is sitting in the Armoury for want of minsas round of 5.56*30mm due to official apathy.
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DRDO’s assault rifles to throw shield around Assam rhinos
The indigenously developed Ghatak will be given to forest guards to combat armed poachers who killed 30 of the animals last year
An indigenous hybrid rifle, named Ghatak for ‘deadly,’ will protect the rhino in Assam from heavily armed poachers.
The Assam Forest Department is poised to be the first non-police or non-paramilitary force to acquire the Ghatak, a multi-calibre rifle from the Defence Research Development Organisation (DRDO). It placed orders for the weapon more than a year ago. The rifle is described as a cross between an automatic close-combat weapon such as AK-47 and a more lethal long-range firearm.
Some consignments of the rifle have been delivered to Central Paramilitary Force as well as the Assam Police. The Ghatak is yet to clear the more stringent tests of the Army, such as 18 rounds of non-stop firing, but forest officials are not worried. “Our combat situation is different from that of the Army,” they say.
Dharanidhar Boro, a highly decorated green soldier who retired in 2016 after years of fighting poachers in Kaziranga National Park, is upbeat about Ghatak’s induction. “I am not sure how good it is, but it will certainly be much better than the unwieldy 0.315 rifles with which we guarded the rhino’s best-known home,” he said from western Assam’s Manas National Park, where he is now an officer on special duty.
Poachers a step ahead
On Kaziranga, a World Heritage site established in 1905, some 230 km east of Guwahati, the veteran officer says, “We did our best to save the rhinos during our time, but the poachers are always a step ahead. It is high time our guards are equipped with weapons that deter poachers.” The national park houses more than 55% of the world’s one-horned rhinos and boasts the highest density of Royal Bengal tigers.
Forest department records say 30 rhinos have been killed in the 430 sq. km. Kaziranga and other wildlife reserves such as Orang National Park and Pobitora Wildlife Sanctuary since January 2016. Six poachers were killed during this period. Cartridges recovered from rhino kill sites revealed the poachers were using AK-56 rifles, M16 and M4 carbines.
“The killing of a couple of rhinos last year made us realise that the archaic, single-shot bolt action rifles of our guards are no match for the sophisticated automatic weapons of the poachers. A decision was taken to overhaul the arsenal of our department,” Environment and Forest Minister Pramila Rani Brahma said.
“In March last year, we purchased an assortment of rifles from Ishapore Ordnance Factory in Kolkata. We received a few, but we are really looking forward to the Ghatak rifles,” the State’s Principal Chief Conservator of Forests, Bikash Brahma, said.
The weapons the department bought were 272 Indian Small Arms System or INSAS assault rifle, 954 self-loading rifles or SLRs, 91 Ghatak rifles, 20 pistols (9mm), and 133 pump action guns of 12-bore.
“Our men in the field are excited about Ghatak. But it will take a great deal of adjustment from the old rifles to a hybrid one,” Kaziranga’s Divisional Forest Officer Rohini Ballave Saikia said.
Assam’s choice
Army and paramilitary forces in the militancy-hit Northeast comprising eight States do not use the Ghatak, but the Assam Police does.
On the choice of the weapon, Assam Police chief Mukesh Sahay said, “I cannot be specific about the number, but we received a small consignment a year ago. More are in the pipeline. We procure weapons based on our requirement, which primarily is counter-insurgency. We need long-range and area weapons too.”
Senior police officials, however, said Ghatak tested in a field situation because militancy has ebbed over the last 15 months.
Army officials said the initiative to make the 5.56mm-7.62mm hybrid came from the Ordnance Factory Board. Of the three prototypes made by three ordnance factories, the one developed by Rifle Factory Ishapore cleared all preliminary tests. “It fell short of the Army’s requirement, though,” an officer said, declining to be named.
The Defence Ministry has tendered for multi-calibre rifles, officials said. Among those in contention are Beretta and Colt, the latter making M4 carbines. But the Ishapore factory is keen on upgrading Ghatak.
Ghatak coming in more than one caliber?
The indigenously developed Ghatak will be given to forest guards to combat armed poachers who killed 30 of the animals last year
An indigenous hybrid rifle, named Ghatak for ‘deadly,’ will protect the rhino in Assam from heavily armed poachers.
The Assam Forest Department is poised to be the first non-police or non-paramilitary force to acquire the Ghatak, a multi-calibre rifle from the Defence Research Development Organisation (DRDO). It placed orders for the weapon more than a year ago. The rifle is described as a cross between an automatic close-combat weapon such as AK-47 and a more lethal long-range firearm.
Some consignments of the rifle have been delivered to Central Paramilitary Force as well as the Assam Police. The Ghatak is yet to clear the more stringent tests of the Army, such as 18 rounds of non-stop firing, but forest officials are not worried. “Our combat situation is different from that of the Army,” they say.
Dharanidhar Boro, a highly decorated green soldier who retired in 2016 after years of fighting poachers in Kaziranga National Park, is upbeat about Ghatak’s induction. “I am not sure how good it is, but it will certainly be much better than the unwieldy 0.315 rifles with which we guarded the rhino’s best-known home,” he said from western Assam’s Manas National Park, where he is now an officer on special duty.
Poachers a step ahead
On Kaziranga, a World Heritage site established in 1905, some 230 km east of Guwahati, the veteran officer says, “We did our best to save the rhinos during our time, but the poachers are always a step ahead. It is high time our guards are equipped with weapons that deter poachers.” The national park houses more than 55% of the world’s one-horned rhinos and boasts the highest density of Royal Bengal tigers.
Forest department records say 30 rhinos have been killed in the 430 sq. km. Kaziranga and other wildlife reserves such as Orang National Park and Pobitora Wildlife Sanctuary since January 2016. Six poachers were killed during this period. Cartridges recovered from rhino kill sites revealed the poachers were using AK-56 rifles, M16 and M4 carbines.
“The killing of a couple of rhinos last year made us realise that the archaic, single-shot bolt action rifles of our guards are no match for the sophisticated automatic weapons of the poachers. A decision was taken to overhaul the arsenal of our department,” Environment and Forest Minister Pramila Rani Brahma said.
“In March last year, we purchased an assortment of rifles from Ishapore Ordnance Factory in Kolkata. We received a few, but we are really looking forward to the Ghatak rifles,” the State’s Principal Chief Conservator of Forests, Bikash Brahma, said.
The weapons the department bought were 272 Indian Small Arms System or INSAS assault rifle, 954 self-loading rifles or SLRs, 91 Ghatak rifles, 20 pistols (9mm), and 133 pump action guns of 12-bore.
“Our men in the field are excited about Ghatak. But it will take a great deal of adjustment from the old rifles to a hybrid one,” Kaziranga’s Divisional Forest Officer Rohini Ballave Saikia said.
Assam’s choice
Army and paramilitary forces in the militancy-hit Northeast comprising eight States do not use the Ghatak, but the Assam Police does.
On the choice of the weapon, Assam Police chief Mukesh Sahay said, “I cannot be specific about the number, but we received a small consignment a year ago. More are in the pipeline. We procure weapons based on our requirement, which primarily is counter-insurgency. We need long-range and area weapons too.”
Senior police officials, however, said Ghatak tested in a field situation because militancy has ebbed over the last 15 months.
Army officials said the initiative to make the 5.56mm-7.62mm hybrid came from the Ordnance Factory Board. Of the three prototypes made by three ordnance factories, the one developed by Rifle Factory Ishapore cleared all preliminary tests. “It fell short of the Army’s requirement, though,” an officer said, declining to be named.
The Defence Ministry has tendered for multi-calibre rifles, officials said. Among those in contention are Beretta and Colt, the latter making M4 carbines. But the Ishapore factory is keen on upgrading Ghatak.
Ghatak coming in more than one caliber?
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CRPF to conduct trials of "Made in India" rifles
Soon after procuring 7000 Bulgaria-made AK 47 rifles, the Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) has tested the advanced version of made in India 'Ghatak' guns recently in field trial in Kashmir Valley.
However, in a major boost to the "Made in India" brand of rifles, the force is all set to test three crucial varieties of assault weapons, including the Trichy Assault Rifle, and Joint Venture Protection Carbine and the latest variant of Insas I-C.
DG CRPF told India Today, "Yes we are currently in the process of testing new weapons. These are made in India weapons for which the field trials are on. We will be more than willing to procure the weapons if they are found suitable for the jawans."
With 3 lakh personnel, CRPF is the largest paramilitary force, involved in conflict zones of Jammu and Kashmir, Maoists infested areas and Northeast India.
The force is looking at multiple options in a bid to phase out INSAS (Indian Small Arms System).
One of the first rifles to be tested for field performance has been the advanced version of Ghatak assault rifle. While its performance was noted satisfactory, but the CRPF top brass said that Ghatak did not have the same lethality of AK 47, which is a weapon of choice for close quarter combat.
With its 7.62 X 39 mm dimension, Ghatak's advanced version was put forth as state-of-the-art assault rifle. However, field officers have given it a thumbs down.
"Its body part is made up of plastic and which looks tacky gives an unreal feel", said an officer.
While the first munition has proven to a damp squib, the force is said to be more optimistic about the other soon to be tested weapons.
The Trichy Assault Rifle is similar to AK series. It has a side folding stock which makes it easy to carry. Ordnance Factory of Tiruchi (OFT) has developed this new 7.62x39mm dimension assault rifle. It is touted to be an improved version of INSAS rifle.
The Joint Venture Protective Carbine (JVPC) designed by the DRDO and produced by the OFB as a replacement for the 9mm carbine which has been phased out, is also said to undergo trial soon.
It has 5.56 mm calibre bullets with the magazine capacity of 30 cartridges.
JVPC is said to be more powerful than the 9mm carbine, which has a much shorter effective firing range than the 200 metres of the JVPC. It is capable of penetrating soft body armour made of kevlar.
The last is INSAS I-C a product of the rifle factory of Ishapur.
Sources say, it has overcome its previous issues of jamming and magazine cracking due to cold weather. It is an accurate lightweight rifle, compact, handy and suitable for terrestrial and maritime assignments.
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...ls-of-made-in-india-rifles-1174834-2018-02-21
Soon after procuring 7000 Bulgaria-made AK 47 rifles, the Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) has tested the advanced version of made in India 'Ghatak' guns recently in field trial in Kashmir Valley.
However, in a major boost to the "Made in India" brand of rifles, the force is all set to test three crucial varieties of assault weapons, including the Trichy Assault Rifle, and Joint Venture Protection Carbine and the latest variant of Insas I-C.
DG CRPF told India Today, "Yes we are currently in the process of testing new weapons. These are made in India weapons for which the field trials are on. We will be more than willing to procure the weapons if they are found suitable for the jawans."
With 3 lakh personnel, CRPF is the largest paramilitary force, involved in conflict zones of Jammu and Kashmir, Maoists infested areas and Northeast India.
The force is looking at multiple options in a bid to phase out INSAS (Indian Small Arms System).
One of the first rifles to be tested for field performance has been the advanced version of Ghatak assault rifle. While its performance was noted satisfactory, but the CRPF top brass said that Ghatak did not have the same lethality of AK 47, which is a weapon of choice for close quarter combat.
With its 7.62 X 39 mm dimension, Ghatak's advanced version was put forth as state-of-the-art assault rifle. However, field officers have given it a thumbs down.
"Its body part is made up of plastic and which looks tacky gives an unreal feel", said an officer.
While the first munition has proven to a damp squib, the force is said to be more optimistic about the other soon to be tested weapons.
The Trichy Assault Rifle is similar to AK series. It has a side folding stock which makes it easy to carry. Ordnance Factory of Tiruchi (OFT) has developed this new 7.62x39mm dimension assault rifle. It is touted to be an improved version of INSAS rifle.
The Joint Venture Protective Carbine (JVPC) designed by the DRDO and produced by the OFB as a replacement for the 9mm carbine which has been phased out, is also said to undergo trial soon.
It has 5.56 mm calibre bullets with the magazine capacity of 30 cartridges.
JVPC is said to be more powerful than the 9mm carbine, which has a much shorter effective firing range than the 200 metres of the JVPC. It is capable of penetrating soft body armour made of kevlar.
The last is INSAS I-C a product of the rifle factory of Ishapur.
Sources say, it has overcome its previous issues of jamming and magazine cracking due to cold weather. It is an accurate lightweight rifle, compact, handy and suitable for terrestrial and maritime assignments.
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...ls-of-made-in-india-rifles-1174834-2018-02-21
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Is it only me or they really strengthened the buttstock?
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below 2 jvpc looks diff. from hand guards
Yeah ... I think the handgaurd is different for a vertical foregrip attachment.
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Nah its for vertical foregrip
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Nah its for vertical foregripView attachment 23449
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Defence Ministry approves purchase of 41K LMGs, 3.5 lakh carbines
http://indiandefencenews.info/defence-ministry-approves-purchase-of-41k-lmgs-3-5-lakh-carbines/
http://indiandefencenews.info/defence-ministry-approves-purchase-of-41k-lmgs-3-5-lakh-carbines/
Any Idea on Make and Config on each category?
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