INSAS Indian Small Arms System

[pmaitra]

If Kunal said TC-21 and CTAR 21 have a slightly longer barrel than the M4. Instead of X-94, it would have made sense. That's it.




Some things you said that needs to corrected in this post...

Ok, so let's see what you got.

The X-95 is apart of the TAR family.

IMI lists them as two separate families. Again, read post #529, and pay attention.

It's just one variant of many.

What are you talking about? X-95? TAR? Both the families are very closely related. Already mentioned.

This didn't make sense at all.

That's because you don't understand how a rifle works.

it doesn't have a longer barrel.

Zittara's barrel is three inches longer than TAR.

How can it? Zittara is a M-TAR with 13 inch barrel.

It's significantly smaller. It's actually the smallest variant.

No, you are wrong again. X-95 is the smallest of all. Don't just argue for the sake of arguing. You have no idea what you are talking about. Yet again, read post #529, and pay attention.

Do you even know that the X-95, M-TAR(M for Micro), and Zittara are the same?? Except Zittara supposed to take local ammo.

Same? Largely same, therefore similar. Not exactly same. I already said so in post #529.

Anyways, what are you trying to say? Are they same or are they different? Make up your mind. Apparently you are confused and contradicting yourself.

It's not difficult.

You posted these two as "Zittara", you seriously can't tell the difference?

Barrel length

"Zittara" aka M-TAR - 13.0 in
Regular TAR-21(Second pic) - 18.1 in same as the original Galil

 

[Shaitan]

Zittara's barrel is three inches longer than TAR.

Is it so hard to understand that the Zittara is a MICRO TAVOR that takes local ammo?

M-TAR, X-95, "Zittara" all have a barrel length of 13 inches. The regular TAR has 18.1 inches.

No, you are wrong again. X-95 is the smallest of all. Don't just argue for the sake of arguing. You have no idea what you are talking about. Yet again, read post #529, and pay attention.

Guess what?? The X-95 and the M-TAR are the same thing!! And your Zittara is a the Indian name for a M-TAR(X-95) that takes local ammo. You dont know what you're talking about.

 

[pmaitra]

Both are different weaponry, though LMGs are very accurate in Semi..

How does the cocking mechanism affect performance? I have shot neither.

I hear that stripping the bullet on the fly is safer but not very good mechanism?

 

[Shaitan]

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/X95-Micro-Tavor

Mirco(M) TAR, aka X-95 aka Indian Zittara.

The smallest one is that of the Zittara, X-95, M-TAR. The longest barrel is that of the regular Tavor.

Below is a M-TAR, X-95, "Zittara"..

 

[pmaitra]

Is it so hard to understand that the Zittara is a MICRO TAVOR that takes local ammo?

M-TAR, X-95, "Zittara" all have a barrel length of 13 inches. The regular one has 18.1 inches.

No, your information is wrong.

X-95 has three barrel lengths: 330 (13") 380 (15") 275 (10.8").
TAR has two barrel lengths: 460 (18") 380 (15").

When you have the IWI company links handy, why do you have to post all this wrong information? Just click and read.

I already posted that Zittara's barrel is 3" longer than the MTAR-21 (I was referring to this as the original TAR assuming you already read post #529, which you didn't). MTAR-21 is the Micro-TAVOR, and it's barrel length is probably under 10" and yes, I know Wiki says something else, but if it Micro-TAVOR, it doesn't make sense and obviously you need to double check your sources.

MTAR-21 isn't listed in IWI link, FYI. Only in wiki and lots of other places than the original company website.

 

[Shaitan]

Alright P you win.

X-95 has three barrel lengths: 330 (13") 380 (15") 275 (10.8").

M-TAR, X-95, Zittara


http://www.israel-weapon.com/?catid=%7B184BBB3C-DBA5-445D-A83A-C73E6A6D53B4%7D

http://www.israel-weapon.com/default.asp?catid=%7BED781BF5-92EB-43AB-BAC7-D89BFBC28144%7D

Barrel length - 330 mm 330 mm 230 mm

330mm = 13 inches



regular TAR - 21 barrel length 460 mm (18.1 inches)


http://www.israel-weapon.com/?catid=%7Bbe33b6e6-080b-45b8-ad85-c4e1e40d0422%7D

X-95 has three barrel lengths: 330 (13") 380 (15") 275 (10.8").

That is the CTAR-21 not the same thing.

http://www.israel-weapon.com/?catid=%7Bbe33b6e6-080b-45b8-ad85-c4e1e40d0422%7D



IWI site.

I would also like to point out that IA is more interested in range and accuracy than compactness. That is why Zittara has a longer barrel than the original TAR.

P's post

This is still wrong, and you still didn't make sense in this post.




M-TAR, X-95, Zittara

Barrel length - 330 mm 330 mm 230 mm

 

[pmaitra]

Mirco(M) TAR, aka X-95 aka Indian Zittara.

LOL, you are confused.

The smallest one is that of the Zittara, X-95, M-TAR. The longest barrel is that of the regular Tavor.

As per IWI, smallest is 10.8" and Zittara is 13" and the longest is 18". Again, go to IWI and see with your own eyes.

 

[pmaitra]

Alright P you win.

IWI website wins. You can win too, if you agree with IWI website.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

How does the cocking mechanism affect performance? I have shot neither.

I hear that stripping the bullet on the fly is safer but not very good mechanism?

It does, As Insas is based on AKM but the 5.56mm recoil is lesser than 7.63m43 so its accurate..

LMG have better accuracy as its barrel is longer and little heavy compare to AR..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Some Pictures needed..

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...tistic-help-needed-gun-lovers.html#post443958

 

[Shaitan]

I would also like to point out that IA is more interested in range and accuracy than compactness. That is why Zittara has a longer barrel than the original TAR.

P's post

Zittara barrel length - 330(13 inches)
Regular TAR - 460 (18 inches)

X-95, M-TAR, Zittara

http://www.israel-weapon.com/?catid=%7B184BBB3C-DBA5-445D-A83A-C73E6A6D53B4%7D

Original Tavor

http://www.israel-weapon.com/?catid=%7Bbe33b6e6-080b-45b8-ad85-c4e1e40d0422%7D

 

[pmaitra]

P's post

Zittara barrel length - 330(13 inches)
Regular TAR - 460 (18 inches)

X-95, M-TAR, Zittara

Israel Weapon Industries (IWI) Ltd, X95 Family

Original Tavor

Israel Weapon Industries (IWI) Ltd, TAVOR Family

Yeah, you saw that and you didn't see this: "The barrel of the Zittara, however, is 12.99 inches long – over 3 inches longer than that of its MTAR-21 parent."

When I was saying TAR, I was assuming you had read that post. Obviously you didn't. Hope now you do.

 

[Shaitan]

^^^^


I thought you meant "original TAR" as in TAR-21. Not M-TAR, my bad.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Insas rifle

Will post More when i am clear to do so..

Anyways, Enjoy..

 

[Koovie]

Delta Force??? never knew that we also got a force with that name

 

[sayareakd]

kunal sir please explain this, I now it has three modes- Safe, Semi and 3round Burst.

Please explain which is which.

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

Delta Force??? never knew that we also got a force with that name

the rashtriya rifles is divided into such forces like delta force,romeo force etc each of whose responsibility is a large area in j&k and headed by a major general probably.

 

[SPIEZ]

kunal sir please explain this, I now it has three modes- Safe, Semi and 3round Burst.

Please explain which is which.

S would be safety and B would be burst ( 3 rounds ) R should be for single round, but donno what it means .

 

[sayareakd]

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this pic it is pointed at R, i need a pic pointing at 'B'. Kunal sir if you have that pic please post it.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

kunal sir please explain this, I now it has three modes- Safe, Semi and 3round Burst.

Please explain which is which.

R is safety
B is burst
S is semi