INS Vikramaditya (Adm Gorshkov) aircraft carrier

[p2prada]

Yeah, the trainers are a waste of space and only carry training value. They won't come equipped with radars from what I know.

IN intends to operate only 12 Mig-29Ks on Gorky because they want the special mission helicopters too.

They have 5 wet points and can carry 4 or 5 drop tanks at a time. So, they have use as a refueler though. The centerline drop tank will have 2150 litres and the 4 smaller drop tanks will carry 1150 litres. That's a total of 6750 litres of external fuel. For buddy refueling, the centerline drop tank needs to go though, so only 4 drop tanks when buddy refueling. Internal fuel is 5000litres.

If IN decides to install a powerful radar on it, it can function as a mini-AWACS with a very high endurance. That will cut down on the Ka-31s role.

The Mig-29K can carry 8 R-77s or 4 KH-31P or 6 KAB-500Kr or KAB-500ODs.

Serviceability rates of the Mig-29K matches western analogues. Compared to Mig-29As 200 flight hour checks, the Mig-29K only needs to be checks every 1000 flight hours. This will increase availability rates to 80-90% compared to 50-60% for Mig-29A.

The databus is all fibre optic.

RAM coating has reduced Mig-29ks RCS by 4 to 5 times compared to Mig-29A. That should be in the region of 1-2m2 in the frontal aspect.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Will those 4 mig trainers will be armed? If not, does it make sense to put them on a carrier and waste crucial space?

Same as MIG-29K, The KUB are trainers but fighters as well..

The dual-seat 'KUB' trainer has nearly identical (90% commonality) aerodynamic characteristics to the single-seat, export 'MiG-29K' fighter and has the same wing and tail plane platform geometry.To further ease transition from the trainer to the fighter, even the forward nose sections are identical. They are equipped with similar avionics and can carry the same armament (nearly 100% commonality).

Bharat-Rakshak.com :: NAVY - MiG-29K / KUB

The MiG-29KUB two-seat fighter, intended for pilot training, can also conduct combat missions identical to the single-seat fighter.

Mig-29K
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Already its fixed 16 MiG-29K and other Rotary Helli's [ Ka-28 ASW + Ka-31 AEW + Dhruv ]...

Mate, cant you see the article posted in last page..

i dont NLCA Mk2 that soon, to work on Vikramaditya... May be later on Viraat-II class....

Not soon, In near future..

 

[Armand2REP]

Already its fixed 16 MiG-29K and other Rotary Helli's [ Ka-28 ASW + Ka-31 AEW + Dhruv ]...

Four of the MiG-29Ks are UB trainers, so actually twelve.

 

[Payeng]

Four of the MiG-29Ks are UB trainers, so actually twelve.

Generally in Air Force when it is a squadron of 18, total strength is actually 20-22 Aircraft, reserve, extra and maybe trainers?

 

[bhramos]

Four of the MiG-29Ks are UB trainers, so actually twelve.

may be basically 2 on carrier, 2 in base to train new pilots........

 

[bhramos]

Any confirmation on the count of helos?

Also I have been repeatedly hearing it will be 30-34 migs. Is 16 confirmed? If true, then it would be too less.

chk this link, the Total capacity is 30 Aicraft+ helli's...

30 aircrafts including helo consists of HAL chetak, KA-31, KA-27, sea king, MIG-29K & NLCA..

 

[Armand2REP]

may be basically 2 on carrier, 2 in base to train new pilots........

When they are conducting carrier qualifications most if not all the trainers will be aboard. When conducting operations the trainers will be land based to continue training. The air wing of 12 was set a long time ago and is validated by the number ordered. If they want to shift a few more of later batches there is no reason they couldn't. But that is what was planned for.

 

[Defcon 1]

When they are conducting carrier qualifications most if not all the trainers will be aboard. When conducting operations the trainers will be land based to continue training. The air wing of 12 was set a long time ago and is validated by the number ordered. If they want to shift a few more of later batches there is no reason they couldn't. But that is what was planned for.

So basically when the Gorky goes for a combat mission. it will have only 12 migs to bomb mehran?

 

[trackwhack]

So basically when the Gorky goes for a combat mission. it will have only 12 migs to bomb mehran?

Did you mean hainan?

 

[Armand2REP]

So basically when the Gorky goes for a combat mission. it will have only 12 migs to bomb mehran?

It has no catapults so conducting air strikes was never its mission. It is an air defence ship to protect the fleet so it can operate unhindered.

 

[Apollyon]

So basically when the Gorky goes for a combat mission. it will have only 12 migs to bomb mehran?

INS Vikramaditya can carry 34 Aircrafts - 21 Mig-29K and 13 Heli's at max but can only accommodate 12 Mig-29K and 5 (Ka-28 + Ka-31) in it's hanger.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Time For New Pictures:

 

[Kunal Biswas]

More:

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Old but worth a read.. :

 

[bhramos]

 

[bhramos]

wow its still too smoky.........

 

[p2prada]

Mig-29k needs 190m to take off at MTOW. So, it can take off from carriers for strike runs at full fuel. I think this is the only aircraft in the world that can do a short take off at MTOW.

 

[Patriot]

wow its still too smoky.........

Is this normal phenomenon that ACs release that much smoke?

With this much smoke enemies may not require radars to locate Vikramaditya.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Is this normal phenomenon that ACs release that much smoke? .

INS Vikramaditya runs on diesel engines and when started they tend to give smoke just like a diesel locomotive..

^^ Admiral Kuznetsov

^^INS Vikramaditya

Some good input:

Its a new diesel engine man. It will take time for the clearances to set and the fresh oil to burn. Once the engine is run in, there wont be that much smoke, except when its restarted.

Here you go genius. Google saves your lazy ass.

Why do diesels blow a billow of black smoke when the accelerator is floored?
the soot is unburned carbon compounds. this can happen due to a change to larger injectors or just regular wear on the engine. it happens mostly in colder temperatures due to the fuel not being full combusted. example - when you are starting a cold engine.

now why it happens, you will have to learn the theory behin compression ignition engines.

From here:
http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...maditya-adm-gorshkov-aircraft-carrier-82.html

 

[bhramos]

INS Vikramaditya in a Game, Guess which game is it???
she is look alike.....