INS Vikramaditya (Adm Gorshkov) aircraft carrier

[average american]

Just in case you dont know it price is going up........Sources informed The New Indian Express that the Russians are building up case for another price hike for the second hand warship. "The Russians are claiming that it was the Indian Navy that insisted on bricks insulation for the boilers rather than the traditional asbestos coating and would therefore claim more in the name of dry dock maintenance," added the sources.

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[Crusader53]

Just in case you dont know it price is going up........Sources informed The New Indian Express that the Russians are building up case for another price hike for the second hand warship. "The Russians are claiming that it was the Indian Navy that insisted on bricks insulation for the boilers rather than the traditional asbestos coating and would therefore claim more in the name of dry dock maintenance," added the sources.

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What I am worried about is the long term cost of the ship??? (i.e. will it break down a lot)

 

[average american]

What I am worried about is the long term cost of the ship??? (i.e. will it break down a lot)

If you had a 30 year old car that had been sitting near the ocean for 30 years, would you be worried.

 

[Crusader53]

if you had a 30 year old car that had been sitting near the ocean for 30 years, would you be worried.

good point

 

[arnabmit]

not if it has been refurbished completely...

 

[KuleshovOleg]

summer 2012 kuleshovoleg - Lockheed P-3 Orion и INS Vikramaditya.

Orion)) Royal Norwegian Navy))

 

[KuleshovOleg]

aircraft & Viks

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

admiral gorshkov is an absolute waste of money since even after 9 years and paying those bloodthirsty ruskies 2.5 billion dollar we still do not have this second hand piece of shit.

 

[arnabmit]

yes it's late...

yes it's costing more than initially projected...

but show me a company who can build you a new A/C for less money or less time?

admiral gorshkov is an absolute waste of money since even after 9 years and paying those bloodthirsty ruskies 2.5 billion dollar we still do not have this second hand piece of shit.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

It has been done again and again, that the hull is fully refurbished so does every other wire in that ship, She is in working condition and ready for induction only weather is an obstical..

She is worthy, And with the price tag of 2.5b is cheap compare to other CVs..

admiral gorshkov is an absolute waste of money since even after 9 years and paying those bloodthirsty ruskies 2.5 billion dollar we still do not have this second hand piece of shit.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Welcome to the DFI..

Do Share your experience about the Ship as you were on the Ship ..

Enjoy your Stay..

aircraft & Viks

 

[Kunal Biswas]

More Pics Of INS Vikramaditya..

 

[KuleshovOleg]

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It is a beautiful ship! Russian pity that he now belongs to India. (((((. It has excellent maneuverability!! Our aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov weaker. I believe that you are lucky! You have a beautiful aircraft carrier!!!!!

 

[Bheeshma]

Is this from the new testing after the boiler was changed? Is the RuN taking deliveries of Mig-29k?

 

[asianobserve]

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It is a beautiful ship! Russian pity that he now belongs to India. (((((. It has excellent maneuverability!! Our aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov weaker. I believe that you are lucky! You have a beautiful aircraft carrier!!!!!

The island in the middle makes it more beautiful if you ask me. It has the most balanced proportions of any modern aircraft carrier I've seen.

 

[Shaitan]

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It is a beautiful ship! Russian pity that he now belongs to India. (((((. It has excellent maneuverability!! Our aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov weaker. I believe that you are lucky! You have a beautiful aircraft carrier!!!!!

Wow, pleased to meet you!

 

[average american]

Can some one post the early pictures, my understanding the hull in places was so corroded that they had to strengthen it

Aircraft Carriers Intensive PIX!! - Page 188

 

[average american]

Salt Water and Metal



The combination of moisture, oxygen and salt, especially sodium chloride, is more damaging to metal than just rust. This combination corrodes, or eats away at, the metal, weakening it and causing it to fall apart. Salt water corrodes metal five times faster than fresh water does and the salty, humid ocean air causes metal to corrode 10 times faster than air with a normal amount of humidity would. Bacteria in ocean water also consumes iron and what is excreted turns to rust.


Electrochemical Corrosion



One form of corrosion that occurs when metal and salt water get together is called electrochemical corrosion. Metal ions dissolve in water and salt water conducts electricity and contains ions, which attract ions from other compounds. During electrochemical corrosion, electrons from other compounds are attracted to the metallic ions. Salt water attacks the metal and corrosion occurs.





Anaerobic Corrosion



Anaerobic corrosion is the second type of corrosion that occurs when metal is exposed to salt water for an extended period of time. Deposits that contain sulfates surround the metal as it sits in salt water. Hydrogen sulfide is produced which corrodes metals. At the same time, bacteria grows in the salt water which used hydrogen to corrode the metal as well. Between the ions, sulfates and bacteria, metal is attacked from all angles when it is in salt water.



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[unnikrishnan]

India has an asset of lenthy, sorrounded oceans. Than a liability or vulnerability Oceans, which demand increased protection and survellinace this give enough space to build ship building units and a path way to controll entire Asia. india must focus on building more Air craft carriers. may be 5 or more within 2 years. India also should have more anti submarine attck systems and advance warning system . Submarines of neighbours could inflict casualities to our air craft carriers. We should have more air craft carriers than US . May be more than a dozen. And other supportive vessels. We need to have more submaries too. for this need we should not depend on purchase from any country anymore. Purchase leads to curreption and delay of in house projects. The next war can happen more leathelly from two ways. Through Oceans, and Through Air. Simultaneously we should develop and introduce more missiles to meet different purposes in the sea, and from the sea. India should look for what us or china does have or not even thought about. We should bring the big private industries to the defense industry. This will make India to manufactue things faster. At the same time govenment should audit these firms defense projects. Otherwise this will end up like our Oil escavation and production business.
Than just a purchase we should step up the Jvs in developing new generation defense systems. "Brahmos" is one example. We should have a better tie up with Israel for what ever we lack and they are advanced.
Unni Menon

 

[JBH22]

India has an asset of lenthy, sorrounded oceans. Than a liability or vulnerability Oceans, which demand increased protection and survellinace this give enough space to build ship building units and a path way to controll entire Asia. india must focus on building more Air craft carriers. may be 5 or more within 2 years. India also should have more anti submarine attck systems and advance warning system . Submarines of neighbours could inflict casualities to our air craft carriers. We should have more air craft carriers than US . May be more than a dozen. And other supportive vessels. We need to have more submaries too. for this need we should not depend on purchase from any country anymore. Purchase leads to curreption and delay of in house projects. The next war can happen more leathelly from two ways. Through Oceans, and Through Air. Simultaneously we should develop and introduce more missiles to meet different purposes in the sea, and from the sea. India should look for what us or china does have or not even thought about. We should bring the big private industries to the defense industry. This will make India to manufactue things faster. At the same time govenment should audit these firms defense projects. Otherwise this will end up like our Oil escavation and production business.
Than just a purchase we should step up the Jvs in developing new generation defense systems. "Brahmos" is one example. We should have a better tie up with Israel for what ever we lack and they are advanced.
Unni Menon

Inspite of all your wishful thinking note that any armed force is build on how much you can afford and with an economy like India we cannot afford to match USA capabilities.
To get a carrier battle group you will need lots of bucks which we don't have given that Mantri is slashing defence budget.