Infrastructure and Energy Sector

shade

Senior Member
Joined
Feb 28, 2016
Messages
15,312
Likes
91,488
Country flag
Hoping Kolkata will get its act together is like hoping bihar will get its act together. Better to search for realistic solutions.

For East coast development, Odisha can play a huge role if they have green field city and EEZ projects along their coast, connected to AP and TN by good rail networks. MP should also get into the picture.

Both Odisha and MP have massive amounts of empty land, decent population sizes and sensible political parties running them, but neither have shown their potential in the last decade. If these 2 states develop, it'll add 150 million people to the development level of the likes of TN, Gujarat and MH.

PS: In the off chance that this actually happens, Odisha must ensure that it keeps out peacefuls through unconventional methods. That community has a habit of flooding any urban area that is developing. Odisha has an enviable 98% Hindu population and it should remain that way.
Can they resist the allure of cheap labour? If yes then they will be able to, otherwise no.
The reason behind their high numbers is not just 4 biwi x 10 bacche, it is because of the love of cheap labour a lot are (((imported))) from Choddi-Boniyan-desh next door.
 

indiatester

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 4, 2013
Messages
5,878
Likes
20,336
Country flag

Mr. Mani has correctly exposed this BS. You can't magically convert a 1950s obsolete dabba to VB, period.

What they'll do is wrap some orange vinyls on the body and call it something. Just like "utkrisht".
Don't listen to nay-sayers too much man. Buy a few railways related stocks and enjoy the ride.
 

Crazywithmath

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 3, 2021
Messages
2,509
Likes
15,085
Country flag
Hoping Kolkata will get its act together is like hoping bihar will get its act together. Better to search for realistic solutions.

For East coast development, Odisha can play a huge role if they have green field city and EEZ projects along their coast, connected to AP and TN by good rail networks. MP should also get into the picture.

Both Odisha and MP have massive amounts of empty land, decent population sizes and sensible political parties running them, but neither have shown their potential in the last decade. If these 2 states develop, it'll add 150 million people to the development level of the likes of TN, Gujarat and MH.

PS: In the off chance that this actually happens, Odisha must ensure that it keeps out peacefuls through unconventional methods. That community has a habit of flooding any urban area that is developing. Odisha has an enviable 98% Hindu population and it should remain that way.
Bengal has never had a centrist/right of centre state govt; the commies were textbook left and the incumbent TMC is even further left biased. Nobody knows how a non left party, if eleceted at all, will perform - there is no precedent.
 

Haldilal

लड़ते लड़ते जीना है, लड़ते लड़ते मरना है
Senior Member
Joined
Aug 10, 2020
Messages
29,618
Likes
113,904
Country flag
Ya'll Nibbiars

 

Dr_Deep

Regular Member
Joined
Aug 19, 2019
Messages
880
Likes
5,686
Country flag
Bengal has never had a centrist/right of centre state govt; the commies were textbook left and the incumbent TMC is even further left biased. Nobody knows how a non left party, if eleceted at all, will perform - there is no precedent.
Bengal did had a Centrist party in the begining it was Congress but then Nehru's stepfatherly behaviour to Bengal along with the burden of refugees from East Pakistan/ Bangladesh and influence on Chinese Communism in the rural area ..gave Left Party as Populist Alternative to Congress that was seen as Elitist and Crony Capitalist.
During 50-70s Bengal did develop with all kind of heavy industries and plants then a 30-40 year gap where the Communist never welcome big heavy industries instead focused on small medium scales ones hence missed out the post 90s Liberalization growth which its Western and Southern counterparts enjoyed.

Nobody knows how a non left party, if eleceted at all, will perform - there is no precedent.
It perform on the same formula of a hybrid system. Socialist welfare state for the needy and poor along with Business Friendly State to Corporates and Industries. Focus on building Infra along with cooperation with the Center Gov, control in corruption, strong measure on illegal migration are the stepping stones.
Both Jharkhand and Bengal has a good number of Industrial townships that can spur growth if fresh investments come. Jamshedpur-Ranchi-Bokaro-Dhanbad-Durgapur-Kolkata-Kharagpur ..forms a nice ring of Industrial towns that can form an industrial ring in the Eastern India.
 

Crazywithmath

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 3, 2021
Messages
2,509
Likes
15,085
Country flag
Bengal did had a Centrist party in the begining
INC only pretended to be 'centrist'; they were (and continue to be; barring maybe PVNR's tenure) a left socialist party in practice. The Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee led commie govt of Bengal, post Jyoti Bose era, did attempt genuine liberalization and industrialization - especially after emerging victorious at the 2006 assembly polls. But the party ideologues fought tooth and nail to oppose the incumbent CM and his loyalists. Intense factionalism weakened the party, Mamata led TMC sensed an opportunity, staged some drama and started launching massive protests opposing land acquisition and large scale industrialization. Her agitation proved to be a killer blow for the commies, who got kicked out in the 2011 assembly polls and that sealed the fate of Bengal's economy.
 

Dr_Deep

Regular Member
Joined
Aug 19, 2019
Messages
880
Likes
5,686
Country flag
Nobody knows how a non left party, if eleceted at all, will perform - there is no precedent.
It perform on the same formula of a hybrid system. Socialist welfare state for the needy and poor along with Business Friendly State to Corporates and Industries. Focus on building Infra along with cooperation with the Center Gov, control in corruption, strong measure on illegal migration are the stepping stones.
Both Jharkhand and Bengal has a good number of Industrial townships that can spur growth if fresh investments come. Jamshedpur-Ranchi-Bokaro-Dhanbad-Durgapur-Kolkata-Kharagpur ..forms a nice ring of Industrial towns that can form an industrial ring in the Eastern India.

Both Odisha and MP have massive amounts of empty land, decent population sizes and sensible political parties running them, but neither have shown their potential in the last decade. If these 2 states develop, it'll add 150 million people to the development level of the likes of TN, Gujarat and MH.
Odisha's terrain is not that flat as one thinks..it has hilly forest areas in its western part of the state. Most of the population lives on the coastal area. Odisha is doing good for its mining and mineral industry. Several companies like TATA, JSW etc has setup its steel production plants there along with PSU like Rourkela Steel Plant. There is a some tourism in the state especially around the Puri area for its Temple. Some IT jobs are in Bhubaneswar. MP has a decent Auto Manufacturing Industry along it being the biggest Wheat producer in the country. Yes lot of planned urban cities can be built in the Central part of India especially MP, Chhattisgarh , Odisha and Jharkhand. All these places are mostly forest areas with little inhabitation, earlier it used to be the fear of Naxals that prevented companies going in the area but now with good road/rail connectivity being set up more areas in these states should be urbanized and let folks from overpopulated Gangetic Plain stretching from UP to Bengal migrate and settle there.
 

Dr_Deep

Regular Member
Joined
Aug 19, 2019
Messages
880
Likes
5,686
Country flag
INC only pretended to be 'centrist'; they were (and continue to be; barring maybe PVNR's tenure) a left socialist party in practice. The Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee led commie govt of Bengal, post Jyoti Bose era, did attempt genuine liberalization and industrialization - especially after emerging victorious at the 2006 assembly polls. But the party ideologues fought tooth and nail to oppose the incumbent CM and his loyalists. Intense factionalism weakened the party, Mamata led TMC sensed an opportunity, staged some drama and started launching massive protests opposing land acquisition and large scale industrialization. Her agitation proved to be a killer blow for the commies, who got kicked out in the 2011 assembly polls and that sealed the fate of Bengal's economy.
I am talking about post-Independence Dr BC Roy's INC term..he was the most competent CM Bengal had. From IIT Kharagpur, Durgapur Steel Plant, Metro Rail in Calcutta etc were all his visions. INC become corrupt and left leaning during Siddharth Shankar Ray's time ( He was the one who advised Indira Gandhi to impose Emergency) in the 70s. After that Jyoti Basu came with all kinds of Populist Freebie promises and the State coffins became depleted along with Industries leaving towards Bombay and GJ.
 

Dr_Deep

Regular Member
Joined
Aug 19, 2019
Messages
880
Likes
5,686
Country flag
Don't listen to nay-sayers too much man. Buy a few railways related stocks and enjoy the ride.
That nay-sayer actually built Vande Bharat from grounds up, complete in-house engineering..no foreign jugaad or technology transfer. So maybe he does has a point.
 

Dr_Deep

Regular Member
Joined
Aug 19, 2019
Messages
880
Likes
5,686
Country flag

Mr. Mani has correctly exposed this BS. You can't magically convert a 1950s obsolete dabba to VB, period.

What they'll do is wrap some orange vinyls on the body and call it something. Just like "utkrisht".
My understanding is those 35k ICF coaches as refer by Mr Mani will be replaced by LHB coaches and these LHB coaches will be retrofitted with all the Vande Bharat like features. VB itself is built on the platform of LHB technology.
 

Haldilal

लड़ते लड़ते जीना है, लड़ते लड़ते मरना है
Senior Member
Joined
Aug 10, 2020
Messages
29,618
Likes
113,904
Country flag
Ya'll Nibbiars


 

angryIndian

Senior Member
Joined
Feb 26, 2013
Messages
1,013
Likes
4,072
Country flag
This is another reason why manufacturing growth in India is not as high as it could be. Car ownership rate in India is too low due to high taxation
Despite relatively low car ownership, our cities are plagued by traffic jams
India simply lacks the infrastructure needed to handle high vehicle ownership
 

Haldilal

लड़ते लड़ते जीना है, लड़ते लड़ते मरना है
Senior Member
Joined
Aug 10, 2020
Messages
29,618
Likes
113,904
Country flag
Ya'll Nibbiars The Pune Nashik HSR has 4eceives funding of 2,500 Crore rupees in the 2024 Railway Budget. An MRO facility will be established at the Nashik with 18.85 Crore rupees in funding, including the 45 Crore that was previously granted in principle.

FlHuQFBWQAEypOA.jpeg
 

thebakofbakchod

Senior Member
Joined
Jun 16, 2020
Messages
1,607
Likes
8,966
As we increase our manufacturing, we need to ensure stuff like this doesn't happen.

Its already happening everyday. Not a single day goes by without some factory in india exploding or catching fire, killing a few labourers. We need better enforcement of safety regulations. A big cause of industrial fires in India is due to short circuits. Keep an eye for Gujarat. The state has seen a massive investment in chemical factories. The new ones seem fine, but the ones built in the 90s are ticking timebombs. India needs its own OSHA with proper enforcement. Sadly our corrupt police and governments will instead make life of factories hell without any enforcement and lead to them shutting down
 

Latest Replies

Global Defence

New threads

Articles

Top