Infrastructure and Energy Sector

[Abdus Salem killed]

This is one of poorest province in China. See how they have prevented slumification by making high density 30+ floor buildings. Although there are huge public open spaces, this looks quite dystopian (like the Cyberpunk 2077 game).

Maybe countries with high population density need this kind of solution. What do you guys think?

What's your take on vedanta bro ?

 

[LondonParisTokyo]

Debatable. Suspension Bridge uses huge length of cables which alone can cost more than the cost of normal bridge of same length.

Suspension Bridges are tourist attractions. People go to see the Verrazano Bridge just because it has history and is a beautiful structure. Same for the Brooklyn Bridge. Same for the Manhattan Bridge. People like things that are beautiful. I'm sorry that in your corner of the corner of the world, you are used to seeing ugly things.

 

[Anibesh acharya]

Adani got port project in WB . expects to create 25,000 direct jobs and over 100,000 indirect jobs

Adani Ports secures ₹25,000 cr Tajpur port project in West Bengal

Tajpur deep sea port will entail a total investment of ₹25,000 crore ($3.1 billion), of which ₹15000 crore will go toward port development and the rest toward building related infrastructure

www.google.com

 

[Suryavanshi]

Adani got port project in WB . expects to create 25,000 direct jobs and over 100,000 indirect jobs

Adani Ports secures ₹25,000 cr Tajpur port project in West Bengal

Tajpur deep sea port will entail a total investment of ₹25,000 crore ($3.1 billion), of which ₹15000 crore will go toward port development and the rest toward building related infrastructure

www.google.com

People saying Adanis days will be over once the government turns have no idea how well linked and established he is.
No matter libergandus live in mediocrity.

 

[SKC]

Suspension Bridges are tourist attractions. People go to see the Verrazano Bridge just because it has history and is a beautiful structure. Same for the Brooklyn Bridge. Same for the Manhattan Bridge. People like things that are beautiful. I'm sorry that in your corner of the corner of the world, you are used to seeing ugly things.

Dude people are not coming to US just to view the suspension bridges and also they are not paying any fees to visit these bridges.
People work in US and then choose to visit them. If there was not that big of IT industry in US then forget about having Tourist coming to visit these bridges.
The most visited country in world is france and it has only one viaduct bridge and it is among least visit place of the country.
Most new Suspension bridges are white elephant and will cover the cost maybe in over 100 yrs.

 

[Rex72920]

We do have suspension bridges in India

2nd Hoogly bridge/Vidyasagar Setu -

 

[omaebakabaka]

On the contrary, suspension bridges are much more cost efficient, especially with respect to material cost as a function of bridge span.

Bridges are based on local topography, soil conditions and prevailing winds and expected loads and ofcourse cost optimalilty. Suspension bridges make sense when some of these factors lead to that choice. Drove on that bridge in Kobe unless I am mistaken, there are some really pretty bridges in Japan up in mountains.

 

[nongaddarliberal]

This is one of poorest province in China. See how they have prevented slumification by making high density 30+ floor buildings. Although there are huge public open spaces, this looks quite dystopian (like the Cyberpunk 2077 game).

Maybe countries with high population density need this kind of solution. What do you guys think?

Along with vertical construction need to be walkable neighbourhoods, where most necessities such as stores and clinics are within walking distance. That requires mixed neighborhoods as standard, which Japan does well. Also a huge emphasis on public transport, mainly metros. The US gets it completely wrong with its suburb, business district, shopping district plans which require cars for getting even a toothpaste.

 

[omaebakabaka]

Along with vertical construction need to be walkable neighbourhoods, where most necessities such as stores and clinics are within walking distance. That requires mixed neighborhoods as standard, which Japan does well. The US gets it completely wrong with its suburb, business district, shopping district plans which require cars for getting even a toothpaste.

Japan had the advantage to start fresh after ww2 and center town planning around train stations and add to that the density of population. It is homogenous and disciplined society that confirms to its traditions for the most part. No other country can live in that harmony with that density and have less than 60 second delay in an year on an average. US development is based on road network but mixed population and high crime will make any puiblic transportation barely successful, NY metro smells like shit literally.

Chinese stations are bit step up vs Indian but cleanliness is not uniform across the board based on my experience. CHR trains are the best overall experience. Ahmedabad integrated hub will be a good model in India if they can maintain them like airports.

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

We do have suspension bridges in India

2nd Hoogly bridge/Vidyasagar Setu -

That is a cable stayed bridge, not a suspension bridge. Although I find cable stayed bridges to be beautiful as well. In terms of aesthetics I think: Suspension bridges > Cable-stayed bridges > Arch-bridge > Extra-dosed bridges >> others like viaduct, box-girder, etc.

Bridges are based on local topography, soil conditions and prevailing winds and expected loads and ofcourse cost optimalilty. Suspension bridges make sense when some of these factors lead to that choice. Drove on that bridge in Kobe unless I am mistaken, there are some really pretty bridges in Japan up in mountains.

Yeah, but there has got be at least one location in entire India that justifies such a bridge,

Debatable. Suspension Bridge uses huge length of cables which alone can cost more than the cost of normal bridge of same length.

Cables alone costing more than bridges? Yeah I don't see that happening. Only downside of suspension bridges is the design effort and the aeroelastic dynamics that need to be modeled.

Most new Suspension bridges are white elephant and will cover the cost maybe in over 100 yrs.

Any sauce for this claim? If this is indeed the case then I wonder what justifies them in other countries.

Wrong thread?

 

[Physx32]

Suspension Bridges are tourist attractions. People go to see the Verrazano Bridge just because it has history and is a beautiful structure. Same for the Brooklyn Bridge. Same for the Manhattan Bridge. People like things that are beautiful. I'm sorry that in your corner of the corner of the world, you are used to seeing ugly things.

Wrong. Suspension bridges are preferred when the span length is high. You can't build a cable stayed or extradosed bridge of 2 km span.

We do have suspension bridges in India

2nd Hoogly bridge/Vidyasagar Setu -

This is a cable stayed bridge, not a suspension bridge

 

[Suryavanshi]

This is one of poorest province in China. See how they have prevented slumification by making high density 30+ floor buildings. Although there are huge public open spaces, this looks quite dystopian (like the Cyberpunk 2077 game).

Maybe countries with high population density need this kind of solution. What do you guys think?

China has entire ghost cities due to building haphazardly tho.
You can create buildings but that does not mean people will necessarily live on it.
First stage is creating jobs and further space for expanding those zones.

Yes mandate building Such buildings in dharvi and indrapuri etc

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

Wrong. Suspension bridges are preferred when the span length is high. You can't build a cable stayed or extradosed bridge of 2 km span.

This is a cable stayed bridge, not a suspension bridge

True. Bridging long spans with minimal piers is specialty of suspension bridges. Take MHTL for example. They are using steel decks for minimizing pier nos. to minimize hinderence to ship movement.

 

[Physx32]

Yeah, but there has got be at least one location in entire India that justifies such a bridge,

These are the requirements:

• High span length, greater than 1 km.
• It must be a deep water body or over a mountain valley (so that piers can't be placed to reduce span).

 

[Suryavanshi]

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[omaebakabaka]

True. Bridging long spans with minimal piers is specialty of suspension bridges. Take MHTL for example. They are using steel decks for minimizing pier nos. to minimize hinderence to ship movement.

Cable stayed are arguably simpler and less costly to build and maintain. We don't really have cities with rivers on its banks that are wide enough and developed on both sides with developed inland or ocean going water ports. I think we may see few in the near future.

 

[LondonParisTokyo]

Wrong. Suspension bridges are preferred when the span length is high. You can't build a cable stayed or extradosed bridge of 2 km span.

This is a cable stayed bridge, not a suspension bridge

Ok nerd I don't care. These bridges are more beautiful to look at that any modern bridge America has built and probably India also

 

[FalconSlayers]

 

[Butter Chicken]

Need to visit Mumbai after bullet train, metro,coastal road and Delhi-Mumbai expressway

 

[Blademaster]

This is one of poorest province in China. See how they have prevented slumification by making high density 30+ floor buildings. Although there are huge public open spaces, this looks quite dystopian (like the Cyberpunk 2077 game).

Maybe countries with high population density need this kind of solution. What do you guys think?

Very little or next to nothing trees and bushes. Concrete jungle. Only pluses I see is that lack of dust and garbage. It looks very clean compared to Indian cities. And they created safe space for people to walk around and mill.