Indian Special Forces

[rkhanna]

I've just found out that Marcos and Para sf are the only 2 sf units that allow 10th std passouts to volunteer
Sailors from MR and NMR entry
And Soldiers from rally bharti. Garuds minimum is 10+2 which is X&Y group entry. Thoughts?

Can't be helped we are a poor uneducated country. Formal education and IQ are two different things. Our SoF soldiers should be screened for both iq and eq.

 

[EternalNxg]

Can't be helped we are a poor uneducated country. Formal education and IQ are two different things. Our SoF soldiers should be screened for both iq and eq.

This was told to me by a naval officer, he was a diver (not a Marco)
He also told me that to become a diver or a MARCO English is a must, if you don't know English forget about it. Both divers and Marcos volunteers go through a pre training viva where they are asked about their knowledge on The unit, Military tactics and SF in general, if they're familiar with what SF and Tactics is or what are the Risks involved..they get shipped of directly to INS Abhimanyu. If they fail the viva they go thru a 2 week long induction/orientation pre training to familiarise them with what they're getting into. There's a shit ton of info he Gave me but I don't think I should be speaking about it here.

 

[rkhanna]

This was told to me by a naval officer, he was a diver (not a Marco)
He also told me that to become a diver or a MARCO English is a must, if you don't know English forget about it. Both divers and Marcos volunteers go through a pre training viva where they are asked about their knowledge on The unit, Military tactics and SF in general, if they're familiar with what SF and Tactics is or what are the Risks involved..they get shipped of directly to INS Abhimanyu. If they fail the viva they go thru a 2 week long induction/orientation pre training to familiarise them with what they're getting into. There's a shit ton of info he Gave me but I don't think I should be speaking about it here.

Navy has the luxury of having higher education intake standards. The service is more technical and is smaller .

And yes keep info to yourself please.

 

[EternalNxg]

Navy has the luxury of having higher education intake standards. The service is more technical and is smaller .

And yes keep info to yourself please.

Precisely what he told me, Navy even provides +2 and Graduation for free in the name of naval orientation for sailors. Once you're through all that you can even give your SSB and go further.

 

[Dracula]

Para SF

 

[Dracula]

MARCOS

 

[Ujjain]

Maybe, Maybe not. Gen Suhag is the one he is taking a shot at and IMO with good reason. Brig SS Shekhawat too paid a horrible price

There are way too many things like this. But washing dirty laundry in public won't bring anything good and would hurt the institution in the long run, so I hope we stop this conversation as soon as possible.

 

[rkhanna]

There are way too many things like this. But washing dirty laundry in public won't bring anything good and would hurt the institution in the long run, so I hope we stop this conversation as soon as possible.

Said who? I disagree. That's the rationale that has kept everything bottled up for decades and it's just getting worse.

Lastly, the institution is a servant of the public not a being onto itself that somehow it has to be protected. It has to earn the respect on a daily basis not live off past glory.

Look at the IAS, IPS all use the same logic.

 

[Ujjain]

Said who? I disagree. That's the rationale that has kept everything bottled up for decades and it's just getting worse.

Lastly, the institution is a servant of the public not a being onto itself that somehow it has to be protected. It has to earn the respect on a daily basis not live off past glory.

Look at the IAS, IPS all use the same logic.

I believe in protecting the institution at any cost, even at the cost of some officers. I hope you understand what I tried to write. In the end those institutions are extension of our society and this society is an extension of us, so every fault that we see in ourselves is bound to be replicated in everything made by our society. But do those faults mean destruction of the society and its institutions? No one is denying the fact that there are problems in our instruments of national power and importance but sometimes you have to choose between the lessor of the two evils. I know a lot of things many bad things but does that mean that I put all those things on public display for our masala hungry janata or to settle some score?

 

[ALBY]

I believe in protecting the institution at any cost, even at the cost of some officers. I hope you understand what I tried to write. In the end those institutions are extension of our society and this society is an extension of us, so every fault that we see in ourselves is bound to be replicated in everything made by our society. But do those faults mean destruction of the society and its institutions? No one is denying the fact that there are problems in our instruments of national power and importance but sometimes you have to choose between the lessor of the two evils. I know a lot of things many bad things but does that mean that I put all those things on public display for our masala hungry janata or to settle some score?

Law is above everything and every institution and turning a blind eye to one wrong is a gateway for another 100 ones. Wedding out rotten apples in the institution doesnot equate to destruction of the whole institution

 

[rkhanna]

I believe in protecting the institution at any cost, even at the cost of some officers. I hope you understand what I tried to write. In the end those institutions are extension of our society and this society is an extension of us, so every fault that we see in ourselves is bound to be replicated in everything made by our society. But do those faults mean destruction of the society and its institutions? No one is denying the fact that there are problems in our instruments of national power and importance but sometimes you have to choose between the lessor of the two evils. I know a lot of things many bad things but does that mean that I put all those things on public display for our masala hungry janata or to settle some score?

No sir, i understand completely what you are saying, but i disagree. The Generals, Politicans, IAS, IPS who are corrupt and are essentially hurting the interests of the us (there is no country without people). This is a treasonable offense. infact is well within the definition. Protecting them infact does a GREATER dis service to the institution and the country.

Cancer is treated at the root. you dont brush it under the carpet because the treatment will look bad.

 

[Ujjain]

Law is above everything and every institution and turning a blind eye to one wrong is a gateway for another 100 ones. Wedding out rotten apples in the institution doesnot equate to destruction of the whole institution

In a perfect world is a law above everything. No institution can weed out all those sick basterds out of their system but saying that I know for a fact that armed forces do it best when it comes to taking tough stand, much more so than prescribed law itself ( I leave it upto you to draw your conclusions). What I wrote earlier is that we have to save and secure an institution which is an instrument of national power because a single negative news is blown out of proportion by vested interests to show them in bad light (which is not a bad thing honestly) and worse even demonize them to hurt the nation.

 

[Ujjain]

No sir, i understand completely what you are saying, but i disagree. The Generals, Politicans, IAS, IPS who are corrupt and are essentially hurting the interests of the us (there is no country without people). This is a treasonable offense. infact is well within the definition. Protecting them infact does a GREATER dis service to the institution and the country.

Cancer is treated at the root. you dont brush it under the carpet because the treatment will look bad.

I don't think you understood what I wrote/said. I said every institution is just as corrupt as us the people but saying that you can not measure every institution by the same stick because when it comes to armed forces despite all the corruption and dishonesty it still is largely an honest organization and handles those issues much much more harshly then any other department/institution of this country. But can it handle and tackle each and every one of its problems effectively? No. It's just not possible. But what conel wrote in his post was a rot borne out of political manhandling of army by the UPA government in order to control the last unconquered citadel and thankfully it was curbed by the reigning government by superceding several bla bla bla ( use ur head man I can't write about everything and fill in those blas). Lastly he hinted at a phenomenon known as medal hunting to some guys.

 

[India Super Power]

Folks,
This tour of duty which is being implemented for jawans
Is it for all vacancies or only for a considerable amount of personnel

 

[Inderjeet Singh]

 

[EternalNxg]

SF?

 

[aystle]

This was told to me by a naval officer, he was a diver (not a Marco)
He also told me that to become a diver or a MARCO English is a must, if you don't know English forget about it. Both divers and Marcos volunteers go through a pre training viva where they are asked about their knowledge on The unit, Military tactics and SF in general, if they're familiar with what SF and Tactics is or what are the Risks involved..they get shipped of directly to INS Abhimanyu. If they fail the viva they go thru a 2 week long induction/orientation pre training to familiarise them with what they're getting into. There's a shit ton of info he Gave me but I don't think I should be speaking about it here.

What are you saying..!!
Govt trying to impose Hindi as National language...

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

SF?

Yes, most likely 3 PARA SF

 

[Spadex]

He was court-martiall ed for speaking logic ?

 

[OFBkaRakhwala]

He was court-martiall ed for speaking logic ?

He denied direct orders of a superior.