Indian Special Forces

[Aditya Ballal]

SMASH mounted on the gun? And the camo for 3?

It’s a Vortex Optics AMG UH-1 Holographic Sight.

 

[Tactical Doge]

Good edit

 

[SGOperative]

Could be. But he culture of innovation and encremental improvement is found across Major SOF units - SAS, French, Israeli, Germans, South Koreans.

IMO its not just about gun culture but a culture of excellence.

SAS Was doing it back in the golden time not sure about the present and most probably like any of the NATO members let the Americans do the R&D (not including unit level or unofficial work arounds) but could be wrong with them, French follow the NATO and Germans too, South Koreans its less of their innovation and more of American Adoption. Israelis are hella innovative for what limited resources they work with.

 

[SGOperative]

F

Finally assault dogs getting operational with Indian SF (NSG not withstanding )

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For some good time with the Para SF

 

[rkhanna]

SAS Was doing it back in the golden time not sure about the present and most probably like any of the NATO members let the Americans do the R&D (not including unit level or unofficial work arounds) but could be wrong with them, French follow the NATO and Germans too, South Koreans its less of their innovation and more of American Adoption. Israelis are hella innovative for what limited resources they work with.

They do Plenty. They just don't write 100 books about it. The increment would be as cutting edge as delta. Talking about sas. And no doubt that the others maynot have the institutions and resources to do the same as the Americans but they will beg borrow steal to improve. Even if it means learning from the Americans

 

[SGOperative]

They do Plenty. They just don't write 100 books about it. The increment would be as cutting edge as delta.

Which unit you meant here

And no doubt that the others maynot have the institutions and resources to do the same as the Americans but they will beg borrow steal to improve. Even if it means learning from the Americans

True but that wont be "innovative" in the same lines as the Yanks or the Israelis, But at the end it gets the job done so who cares

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Is this from some documentary?

 

[ALBY]

I had posted some links in the intl SOF thread sometime back.

JSOC works with whomever gets them better. Scietist , civ contactors etc



JSOC often trains with major city swat / ERT teams - La/NYPD , Chicago, etc .

FBI HRT has been doing joint ops with Deltas as back as 2006-07 as yesterdsy i saw a pic in unsta of a Delta operator with HRT in Iraq jn full gear in ops area

 

[ALBY]

They had to include the birdcage muzzle device for free, the special forces guys were happy with their slant brakes. They dont care about flash signature at all, this tells you how little experience they have fighting in the night. Western SF in comparison is extremely paranoid about flash.

I really wished they had made a much longer free floating handguards like the ones made by zenitco or sureshot so that operators could fire using c-clamp grips without getting their hands burned by touching in the gas tube.

 

[WolfPack86]

sss defence ak 47 upgrade

 

[rkhanna]

FBI HRT has been doing joint ops with Deltas as back as 2006-07 as yesterdsy i saw a pic in unsta of a Delta operator with HRT in Iraq jn full gear in ops area

Palestine is one of the places they were deployed together. hRT was overt / delta covert. This was in the 90s as well

 

[rkhanna]

Which unit you meant here

The Increment - it's the Tier 1 element of SAS/SBS . Aka counter revolutionary warfare wing (CWW). Like SG it does not have permanent cadre and soldiers rotate through it based on their clearance levels etc

 

[SGOperative]

The Increment - it's the Tier 1 element of SAS/SBS . Aka counter revolutionary warfare wing (CWW). Like SG it does not have permanent cadre and soldiers rotate through it based on their clearance levels etc

Wont call them Tier 1 in the same line as Delta/GROM, they have separate role to work for the Intelligence Agency like SAD and the SG, while they do get the best of the best from the UKSF, but still the SAS/SBS hold the line for the Tier 1 in UKSF, UKSG being Tier 2, They also have other SOF Capable units for the Tier 2 Role.

 

[rkhanna]

Wont call them Tier 1 in the same line as Delta/GROM, they have separate role to work for the Intelligence Agency like SAD and the SG, while they do get the best of the best from the UKSF, but still the SAS/SBS hold the line for the Tier 1 in UKSF, UKSG being Tier 2, They also have other SOF Capable units for the Tier 2 Role.

Tier 1 is a counter terror tasking. For which RWW takes the lead. Yes the structure is different for sure

 

[rkhanna]

Tier 1 is a counter terror tasking. For which RWW takes the lead. Yes the structure is different for sure

PS that's where the innovation lies. They have taken their smaller scale, lesser resources and global Infra footprint and stills developed a decent covert capability

 

[ManhattanProject]

I really wished they had made a much longer free floating handguards like the ones made by zenitco or sureshot so that operators could fire using c-clamp grips without getting their hands burned by touching in the gas tube.

They made what the army demanded, if they wanted a longer handguard they would have gotten one. We all know how horrible those folding front grip things are, but they provided it probably because army wanted them.

 

[tusharfoxtrot]

 

[abingdonboy]

They made what the army demanded, if they wanted a longer handguard they would have gotten one. We all know how horrible those folding front grip things are, but they provided it probably because army wanted them.

What’s even the logic in a folding grip? It doesn’t fold to save much space at all, extra mechanisms just means extra point of failure

IIRC SSS original SOPMOD had a much longer handguard, they refined it based on user input so it’s pretty much just a FAB DEFENCE kind of after market mod. Shouldn’t surprise us that this meant a downgrade, IA still hasn’t figured out the basics

 

[SGOperative]

What’s even the logic in a folding grip? It doesn’t fold to save much space at all, extra mechanisms just means extra point of failure

IIRC SSS original SOPMOD had a much longer handguard, they refined it based on user input so it’s pretty much just a FAB DEFENCE kind of after market mod. Shouldn’t surprise us that this meant a downgrade, IA still hasn’t figured out the basics

How long would the gun get with the Longer Handguard?

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Which SBR?