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[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Yeah we do, it would be the US. Germany was never in any position to win either world wars, ever. Tactical victories don't make up for strategic warfighting deficiencies. And the Germans certainly didn't invent stealth, the team at Lockheed Skunkworks did.

Operation Paperclip - Wikipedia

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[NoobWannaLearn]

Some of our officers do have some great insight and knowledge need to hire these guys more frequently

He mentioned his fav weapon is hk 416 that he fired in joint ops does not specify with who but he does say seals use it and he too loves the weapon wished army had it what do you guys think he is talking about seals? And he does admin at his time the sf weapon standard was not good.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Some of our officers do have some great insight and knowledge need to hire these guys more frequently

Holy shit do watch after 46 mins that's some Hollywood seal team 6 shit please do give it a watch @Jedi Operator any clue the kind of operation he is talking about? The affect he said it had probably had to do something with insertion in Pakistan taking out some big target maybe.


@abingdonboy you would be happy to hear his last part lol he does agree with alot of your point on gear and comparison with Western sf but he did say he worked in procurement wing and things are changing so @airborneCommando is probably right pcs and hcbhs will probably be standarised now.

 

[Delta Squad]

Does anyone has that bill from NSGs? Uploaded last year?

Yaa found it Cost of 4 units is supposed to be around 1.91 cr. This is estimated cost though, most probably that 1.78 cr fanda is for 4 units as well.

 

[airborneCommando]

@airborneCommando is probably right pcs and hcbhs will probably be standarised now.

I try my best to get good info on that stuff. Takes a lot of seperating chaff from the grain. @Tactical.Doge can you remake that meme again but this time the para version of it maybe things will start picking up pace after that (andhvishwasi hu)

 

[Fire and groove]

How does NSG has Russian influence? Didn't these guys train with GIGN and were based on them as well has the Army's influence on NSG so deep?

None of those are institutionalized. For starters personnel serving in the NSG aren't dedicated, they're on deputation mostly from the army. For another, training with another unit itself doesn't guarantee lessons being learnt, that requires an openness and a critical, introspective eye that the indian military by and large lacks. We're never willing to learn from the outside world unless it's the Israelis or the Russians, our biases factor into our tactics and training.

Second, you're competing against consensus that's been going strong for quite a while, and militaries are ironically are very resistant to change, even though that's what their job profile demands.

 

[Fire and groove]

No the Russians invented stealth and the commissars thought the invention was worthless. The americans took it up and kicked it up several notches and mastered the heck out of it.

That's kinda incorrect, the russians published a paper that was used to test and develop stealth, the paper itself didn't solve the problem of actually developing stealth designs itself.

 

[Fire and groove]

Operation Paperclip - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Yes i'm well aware of operation paperclip. The outcome was that it helped notably augment the US's R&D, especially for space programs, but it wasn't a decisive factor in the US becoming a superpower or beating Germany. The US had already introduced german scientists - notably Jewish Refugees - to their weapons programs including project Manhatten, but the crucial factor was that the US had the money and industry to even begin these programs. It was the US's industrial capabilities and it's naval might that made it a superpower. Hell, the USSR was an industrial powerhouse struggling with massive officer shortages post-purge along with a rapidly expanding military and consequently struggling to effectively fight early invasion and yet it still managed to halt and reverse gears against the the Nazi war machine. Nazi Germany even before the war had terrible industrial capabilities, manpower shortages and oil shortages; all of which are indispensable in war. It simply could not afford at any point the casualties and attrition it was facing, no matter how small, and WW2 was very much so a war of attrition.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

I try my best to get good info on that stuff. Takes a lot of seperating chaff from the grain. @Tactical.Doge can you remake that meme again but this time the para version of it maybe things will start picking up pace after that (andhvishwasi hu)

Bang on man they guy is definitely a legend need more interviews from him.

 

[Inderjeet Singh]

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[NoobWannaLearn]

Yaa found it Cost of 4 units is supposed to be around 1.91 cr. This is estimated cost though, most probably that 1.78 cr fanda is for 4 units as well.View attachment 238478View attachment 238479

45-50 lac per units with helmet and other accessories

 

[Blood+]

I don't know much about the eastern front but the reason they lost in their western offensive was due to their overconfidence they had about their blitzkrieg tactics .
If they kept their patience and attacked Batstone with proper planning and coordination they would have achieved a breakthrough in the battle of bulge and maybe outcome in Europe would have been different

Hitler was a bad tactician , everyone knew his orders were suicidal but no one dared to question him .
Many leaders on ground were great like piper, Rommel but were very overconfident . Their logistics were bad specially fuel , they were so overconfident that they didn't work on improving their fuel logistics and instead planned to rely on the allies fuel dumps that they would capture after overrunning their positions .

Nah, they were done long before the battle of the bulge.

Also Luftwaffe proved to be ineffective due to their inexperienced pilots . Even then they planned a massive air raid on the allies but in turn lost more planes than them .Also the weather was totally against them .
If they had executed their western offensive successfully ,they would have kept fighting for a few more years until USA would have nuked their ass .

And how were they supposed to do all that without any fuel??

 

[Inderjeet Singh]

Unconfirmed 9 Para SF picView attachment 238489

Looks like Afghan Taliban

 

[khushank]

Looks like Afghan Taliban

Looks like it! 'Army life' guy posted it

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Yes i'm well aware of operation paperclip. The outcome was that it helped notably augment the US's R&D, especially for space programs, but it wasn't a decisive factor in the US becoming a superpower or beating Germany. The US had already introduced german scientists - notably Jewish Refugees - to their weapons programs including project Manhatten, but the crucial factor was that the US had the money and industry to even begin these programs. It was the US's industrial capabilities and it's naval might that made it a superpower. Hell, the USSR was an industrial powerhouse struggling with massive officer shortages post-purge along with a rapidly expanding military and consequently struggling to effectively fight early invasion and yet it still managed to halt and reverse gears against the the Nazi war machine. Nazi Germany even before the war had terrible industrial capabilities, manpower shortages and oil shortages; all of which are indispensable in war. It simply could not afford at any point the casualties and attrition it was facing, no matter how small, and WW2 was very much so a war of attrition.

We were talking about the origins of stealth as per my post.

 

[Marliii]

 

[DumbPilot]

Yes i'm well aware of operation paperclip. The outcome was that it helped notably augment the US's R&D, especially for space programs, but it wasn't a decisive factor in the US becoming a superpower or beating Germany. The US had already introduced german scientists - notably Jewish Refugees - to their weapons programs including project Manhatten, but the crucial factor was that the US had the money and industry to even begin these programs. It was the US's industrial capabilities and it's naval might that made it a superpower. Hell, the USSR was an industrial powerhouse struggling with massive officer shortages post-purge along with a rapidly expanding military and consequently struggling to effectively fight early invasion and yet it still managed to halt and reverse gears against the the Nazi war machine. Nazi Germany even before the war had terrible industrial capabilities, manpower shortages and oil shortages; all of which are indispensable in war. It simply could not afford at any point the casualties and attrition it was facing, no matter how small, and WW2 was very much so a war of attrition.

As SimpleHistory puts WW2 at the tail end of 1942: "Speed had taken everyone by surprise, but by now, power had caught up"

 

[JConline]

What AR is he holding?

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Kurd with an expensive looking AR-10.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Hun toh gareeb lag rahe he inke samne bhai