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He’s basically saying what everyone here says about army command generals (responsible for procurements) being incompetent asf. And then 2 and 3 star genrols being yes men for the COAS and upper brass
Are bhai mai bhi reddit par post kardun:
"Guys, Indian AF has 10 Gen aircraft, 10K Arjun MKII"

To maan loge??
 

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Yeah that's the actual truth. And btw, the politicians don't and quite honestly can't meddle with specific items of purchase. If the Army wants to modernize Para SF they easily can in phases starting with proper PPE, night vision and then move on to better primary weapons. The procurements won't even be of that large an amount which would need to be approved by a procurement committee. The desire to modernize lacks in the army command.
These generals use the politicians as scapegoats. Cause politician toh ayega jayega.
Genrols can’t use politicians as scapegoats being they are their yesmen only. That’s what most genrols don’t understand.

Issue is genrols aren’t selected based on their leadership qualities or technical knowledge about conflicts, coin, and modernization, they are selected based on how obedient they are at the GOC level.Proof is how zero Lt Gens from the infantry (the few that do come from this branch) are raising an issue with how piss poor Indian procurements are.
 

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Yeah that's the actual truth. And btw, the politicians don't and quite honestly can't meddle with specific items of purchase. If the Army wants to modernize Para SF they easily can in phases starting with proper PPE, night vision and then move on to better primary weapons. The procurements won't even be of that large an amount which would need to be approved by a procurement committee. The desire to modernize lacks in the army command.
These generals use the politicians as scapegoats. Cause politician toh ayega jayega.
Exactly typical govt job mentality
These gernails can't procure proper equipments ppe and other stuffs which doesn't requirement dac or ccs approval or bureaucratic hurdles
 

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I can take you to the Army sector in my city and they will claim all sort of things!
Don't believe anyone of face value alone.
I can say the same about people here who claim to know many things just becuz their fam and friends have served.

And where is the disagreement with him? The evidence is in how piss poor our infantry and SF are equipped. You think Mid Level and Jr leadership are responsible for this? The blame squarely lies on command level yes men and lazy, incompetent COAS
 

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I can say the same about people here who claim to know many things just becuz their fam and friends have served.

And where is the disagreement with him? The evidence is in how piss poor our infantry and SF are equipped. You think Mid Level and Jr leadership are responsible for this? The blame squarely lies on command level yes men and lazy, incompetent COAS
You are mixing a lot of points to hide the initial claim now.

Keep all points separate.
 

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You are mixing a lot of points to hide the initial claim now.

Keep all points separate.
Initial claim of his was that the army jr and mid level leadership is strong, but that the problem is with command level and simply that political inter fence has increased
 

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Initial claim of his was that the army jr and mid level leadership is strong, but that the problem is with command level and simply that political inter fence has increased
Thats why it is so tough to talk with you. Mixing everything together and shifting goalposts.
 

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Chill out guys. No point in arguing among ourselves.
Fact of the matter is, Indian procurements are a joke.
The generals are partially correct in that as soon as any procurement has to go through the bureaucratic pipeline and has to be eventually presented in front of politicians, it leads to an incredible delay because of all the "Make in India" shenanigans.
But at the same time, the generals are equally to blame because they have their own emergency and small batch procurement pipelines. They can easily modernize the SF in phases, like MARCOS did.
It's a two fold problem. But the larger bureaucratic problem can be avoided.
 

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Chill out guys. No point in arguing among ourselves.
Fact of the matter is, Indian procurements are a joke.
The generals are partially correct in that as soon as any procurement has to go through the bureaucratic pipeline and has to be eventually presented in front of politicians, it leads an incredible delay because of all the "Make in India" shenanigans.
But at the same time, the generals are equally to blame because they have their own emergency and small batch procurement pipelines. They can easily modernize the SF in phases, like MARCOS did.
It's a two fold problem. But the larger bureaucratic problem can be avoided.
I hold genrols to higher blame as they don’t even present such prcuments to bureaucrats. They just buy a million Trash 90 tanks and call it a year
 

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