Indian Special Forces (archived)

[ArgonPrime]

Neither did I. But that is going to be heavy as fuck.

1.7 kg for the size L, kinda on the heavier side, I agree.

 

[ArgonPrime]

We did modify it... The level 3 helmet applique is a result of that. But that came only recently.

But those would be even heavier than the Patkas, wouldn't they??

 

[rkhanna]

Well, not according to these folks, it ain't. Here - View attachment 69312
Link - http://www.starwire.in/bppatka.html#:~:text=Variants,weight of the Ballistic Helmet.

In comparison, the upcoming ECP of the US Army is projected to weigh about 3.3 lbs (~1.5 kgs when converted to metrics). So if you feel it's too heavy for you, then it's time for you to hit the gym and train your neck Mr. pencil neck. Don't take it as an offense please, I'm one as well and just started neck training less than a month back, so wish me luck.


Sorry but I do not buy that, unless of course you actually want to give credence to the age old Paki rhetoric of Indian soldiers (and Indians in general) being a bunch of veggie eating weak ass pussboys.

Why not when the Patka is not really any heavier than other helmets available in the market??!!

I'm sorry to say this but you sir, have been terribly misinformed.

That's not the fault of the design, now is it??

And because they actually worked very well unlike these 'ultramodern, light-weight' highly comfortable and customizable' MKU helmets that can barely stop a pistol round.
Check this out, the ugly cumbersome jugaad of yours that you speak of with such disdain at play -


And meanwhile, your precious little ballistic helmet -


Yeah, balances out by leaving the wearer completely at the mercy of the lady luck. You know what the problem is with that?? It just so happens that the lady luck is a voluptuous whore and you're gonna find yourself fresh outta cash when you'd need her the most.

Well, can't say anything about that but it is changing with the US Army planning to replace its present ACH with the heavier ECH with Level III ballistic protection being one of the requirements.

You really hate the Patka with a passion, don't you??

Great Post sir, give me sometime to post a reply currently traveling for work and life is hectic. No I don't hate the Patka at all. I just believe that in 2021 we can move beyond this from an SF perspective.

Have worn it myself and have spoken to Dozens of Soldiers and officers (SF and not) on the pros and cons. Will post.

 

[ArgonPrime]

Great Post sir, give me sometime to post a reply currently traveling for work and life is hectic. No I don't hate the Patka at all. I just believe that in 2021 we can move beyond this from an SF perspective.

Have worn it myself and have spoken to Dozens of Soldiers and officers (SF and not) on the pros and cons. Will post.

It will be great to hear your experience with it as well.

 

[Killbot]

But those would be even heavier than the Patkas, wouldn't they??

Yes. But it provides that much more protection. And the top is prone to ricochets as it is curved. So, it is pretty damn good, if you ask me. And it wouldn't be as heavy as the older patka models.

 

[MuzzleVelocity]

Patka is a genius Indian jugaad move. To be honest, that's the kind of thinking that can help the SF as well. Look at your own combat experience, translate that into operational equipment.

 

[Edyk12]

Guys, anyone interested.....

 

[Edyk12]

 

[Immanuel]

that was uncalled for, you should be banned.

Well, when douchebags disrespect our elite who risk life and limb braving through the harshest of conditions with meagre pay and third world equipment and call them pretend Bollywood commandos, do you expect me to me to be civil? All the while these same douches sit in mama's basement leeching on Daddy's wifi yet they dare insult our finest. Insults can go both ways, these douches insult those who are on the front lines too busy defending against real enemies. If someone has the goat balls to call our finest pretend bollywood commandos, then they certainly won't mind if someone calls them a Paki goat licker in response.

 

[Immanuel]

In other news

Navy orders Israeli SMASH 2000 Plus systems to tackle drones, more contracts in offing (theprint.in)

Israel's 'Smart Shooter' Revolutionizes World of Military - YouTube

Interesting purchase, I hope it finds it's way for SF. Useful against drones as well as personnel. Gives a whole new meaning to 'One shot, one kill'

Tech is always evolving, perhaps a large order with make in India would make this standard kit certainly for SF, Ghataks etc.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Patka + MKUView attachment 69309

Patku

 

[ArgonPrime]

Well, when douchebags disrespect our elite who risk life and limb braving through the harshest of conditions with meagre pay and third world equipment and call them pretend Bollywood commandos, do you expect me to me to be civil? All the while these same douches sit in mama's basement leeching on Daddy's wifi yet they dare insult our finest. Insults can go both ways, these douches insult those who are on the front lines too busy defending against real enemies. If someone has the goat balls to call our finest pretend bollywood commandos, then they certainly won't mind if someone calls them a Paki goat licker in response.

Which only goes to show how big of a fucking nincompoop you truly are.

 

[Edyk12]

Guys, any opinions about this piece? Here they are saying the 4 para team was ambushed.

Are Indian Army’s Special Forces losing their edge?

www.babushahi.com

 

[Edyk12]

Indian Army Special Forces Story : From HQ PARA Commando Task Force To AFSPD | Indian Politics

www.indianpolitics.co.in

 

[12arya]

Guys, any opinions about this piece? Here they are saying the 4 para team was ambushed.

Are Indian Army’s Special Forces losing their edge?

www.babushahi.com

well he has written this as well!

 

[ArgonPrime]

Guys, any opinions about this piece? Here they are saying the 4 para team was ambushed.

Are Indian Army’s Special Forces losing their edge?

www.babushahi.com

Truth is, we do not know for sure how the events unfolded on that fateful day, it's all speculation. He could be right, maybe they were ambushed, or perhaps it was sheer bad luck that the squad fell into the ravine right where the tangos were holed up as the ice overhang they were on just gave in under their weight, although if the latter assumption would beg the question as to why weren't the personnel maintaining proper spacing but I digress. We'll never know.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

well he has written this as well!

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I tell you what , like they say defeat and victory are part of a game so can be said about war .
You do realize when I say war then , I mean a war not a small skirmish .
People say that in today's time wars will be shorter , I respectfully disagree to an extant for the reason that basics of war which involves minimalising loses of ones own forces while increasing others has always been there.
India has lost many thousand soldiers , in wars of 65 , 71 along with many fighter planes .
When it starts then it starts .
You cannot become heroes in every battle , but try to win at any cost for losing a war might be fatal at many levels .

 

[Killbot]

Guys, any opinions about this piece? Here they are saying the 4 para team was ambushed.

Are Indian Army’s Special Forces losing their edge?

www.babushahi.com

It was an accident. Trust official sources. But SOF started losing their edge when the expansion began. @rkhanna

 

[ArgonPrime]

It was an accident. Trust official sources. But SOF started losing their edge when the expansion began. @rkhanna

I would say they just stopped evolving, or at least the process has become extremely sluggish. I mean, it feels like all they want to do is get the Balidan batch and then walk around with it pinned on their uniform.

 

[Phantom sierra]

It was an accident. Trust official sources. But SOF started losing their edge when the expansion began. @rkhanna

i heard that newly raised units like 11 para didnt get to use tavors till a long time and had to use the existing AKs instead.