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12arya

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By Naval Commandos he would have meant Combat Divers. Many Personnel from Para Airborne and SF volunteer for Combat Diving Course at Kochi alongside Indian Navy Personnel so the term ambiguously points towards Combat Divers not MARCOS.
@Dracula or others,

if u cud, can u give some details on what u meant by naval commandos/&combat divers? how r they different from marcos(i know they r sf)? what i want to know is if naval commandos or combat divers r like/have similar job like ghataks or like army's infantry commandos?
 

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The UH3H helo winched down two MARCOs to facilitate winching down of the technical team and 13 ONGC crew members onto the tilted helo deck of the oil rig and recovered the MARCOs. INS Chetlat a Water Jet Fast Attack Craft was also deployed to render assistance as required.

#IndianNavy airlifts Technical Team on damaged Oil Rig Olinda Star in KG Basin by deploying a UH3H helicopter from INS Dega. The helo airlifted technical team & crew members of Olinda Star, a semi-submersible drilling platform in KG Basin off Kakinada
Using special forces for even this sh!t??? Utterly ridiculous.

Demeans the special forces, takes away their natural fighting optimisation and highlights how amateurish the Indian military is that they lack dedicated specialists in other domains so have to keep relying on their special forces to do it all
 

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Using special forces for even this sh!t??? Utterly ridiculous.

Demeans the special forces, takes away their natural fighting optimisation and highlights how amateurish the Indian military is that they lack dedicated specialists in other domains so have to keep relying on their special forces to do it all
Dude, seriously?

One of the main missions of MARCOS is protection of Oil Rigs; so much so that a team is kept on standby always on either coasts (INS Dega and INS Shikra) for contingencies.

When an emergency hits, you send in first responders - the units most readily available - this case it was OBVIOUSLY the HIT team on standby and the FAC assigned to those oil rigs.

I get your point - but - be reasonable.
 

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Dude, seriously?

One of the main missions of MARCOS is protection of Oil Rigs; so much so that a team is kept on standby always on either coasts (INS Dega and INS Shikra) for contingencies.

When an emergency hits, you send in first responders - the units most readily available - this case it was OBVIOUSLY the HIT team on standby and the FAC assigned to those oil rigs.

I get your point - but - be reasonable.


Ideally all SAR ops in the Indian EEZ should be carried out by the ICG but failing that the IN should
Have it’s own specialised SAR units made up of customised helos, pilots, operators and rescue divers.

The MARCOs argument you have made is asinine, they are on standby for kinetic ops ie combat missions. They are ready to retake a oil rig taken over by terrorists. What business do they have doing these rescue missions?

Think DEVGRU are employed in such a fashion?


It’s another example of how special forces are misused in India by ignorant leadership.
 

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Ideally all SAR ops in the Indian EEZ should be carried out by the ICG but failing that the IN should
Have it’s own specialised SAR units made up of customised helos, pilots, operators and rescue divers.

The MARCOs argument you have made is asinine, they are on standby for kinetic ops ie combat missions. They are ready to retake a oil rig taken over by terrorists. What business do they have doing these rescue missions?

Think DEVGRU are employed in such a fashion?


It’s another example of how special forces are misused in India by ignorant leadership.
Agree. MARCOS mandate is to protect oil rigs from hostile paramilitary forces not natural disasters.

Naval divers / udt (EOD)/ Coast guard SAR all could have handled this with mjnimjn effort
 

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Ideally all SAR ops in the Indian EEZ should be carried out by the ICG but failing that the IN should
Have it’s own specialised SAR units made up of customised helos, pilots, operators and rescue divers.

The MARCOs argument you have made is asinine, they are on standby for kinetic ops ie combat missions. They are ready to retake a oil rig taken over by terrorists. What business do they have doing these rescue missions?

Think DEVGRU are employed in such a fashion?


It’s another example of how special forces are misused in India by ignorant leadership.
Navy divers and SAR would be far more suitable for this kind of job. Do you think FOCinC East doesn't know it?
People are all experts here. without knowing what the situation on the ground was, how can you dole out judgment?

Perhaps there was no diver team available for immediate dispatch?

And the fact that many, if not most, combat divers go into MARCOS anyway, would that not make them eminently suitable?

Using 'military' parlance such as Kinetic ops doesn't make you the man in the field - don't second judge ops from the comfort of your chair.
 

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Navy divers and SAR would be far more suitable for this kind of job. Do you think FOCinC East doesn't know it?
People are all experts here. without knowing what the situation on the ground was, how can you dole out judgment?

Perhaps there was no diver team available for immediate dispatch?

And the fact that many, if not most, combat divers go into MARCOS anyway, would that not make them eminently suitable?

Using 'military' parlance such as Kinetic ops doesn't make you the man in the field - don't second judge ops from the comfort of your chair.
There was no diver team but there was a MARCOs team? Doesn’t that highlight the failings of this command and their ability to maintain the availability of critical assets?


Whether you like it or not using MARCOs for this operation was grossly irresponsible and demeaning for an elite fighting force.
 

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SRG got tin buckets after SAT got vipers and exfils! LOL!
Just for training purpose. They are replacing old ones with 2 new types of ACH. One issued by the MHA and other procured by NSG .
SAG don't use EXFIL or VIPER P2. They use the same ACH and mount rails , NVG mount & militech visor band either after wrapping black clothing or naked.
 
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