Indian Special Forces (archived)

[armyofhind]

Again I Explained It You in Detail Its Not Up to Your observation but Its Upon Authorities MHA or IA HQ
Its Explain you are Military Enthusiast And you Believed What you got from observing Military Forums

Let Me Tell You difference between Paratroopers and Para SF
Paratroopers You See in the Video are Awarded with both Maroon Cap and SF Batch After
90 days or 3 Months of Probation Training Right or Wrong?

Sir,Special Forces are Not Bound To Mere Maroon CAP or SF TAG
So Do you Seen National Security Guards or NSG where SF Tag or Maroon But they are Listed As SF Under MHA So are PMO SPG And CRPF Cobra Same goes To SFF

But An PARA SF operative Required To Clear 7 Months of Advanced course + 3 months of Probation training only Paratroopers can Became A PARA SF Which Specialized For Amphibious Role Such Marcos of Indian Navy

Let Explain It you

Their are Nine Battalions Para (Special Forces) battalions (1,2,3,4,9,10,11,12,21 PARA)The total strength of the regiment stands about to 4500 with the majority being in the Paratroopers(Airborne), while the Para (SF) stands about 1200-1500 operators at Stretch

Each SF Battalion are Formed by 150-200 Para SF assault teams Rest are All Paratroopers

Now Come to SFF

Sir,All forces trained in a specific manner to conduct covert/unconventional operations are designated as special forces. They are given specialised training and equipment specific to their task.

Special Forces of the Indian Armed Forces are as aforementioned.

However, to contend the limitation of Special Forces in India to them is incorrect.

I know SFF is a different 'beast'. But it is a specialised force under Cabinet Secretariat and a recognised 'Special Force' under MHA.

For bold portion, what you typed held a few years back, when inter services rivalry led to orders that SFF is not entitled to wear its para wings outside its compounds! That is history, a decade back.

So SFF And SG Both are now trained for similar tasks and undertake similar missions in CI roles, be it in valley or in NE. The troops are no more exclusively Tibetan now. The difference in training of VIKAS units only come in for area and for SG component

Additionally, the only difference is in SG, a successor to SOG which used to exist in post-independence years. The assault teams in SG have different troop composition and different roles for each assault team. Lets leave it at that.

Perhaps one can say SG is super special force

First of all, I don't simply believe what I get from public forums. Like you mightve seen, I don't quote Wikipedia articles as sources like yourself.

My cousin serves in the army. And a good friend of mine has his own brother in the Airborne.

So it is from these sources and my own knowledge that I'm speaking. A far more credible source than any of these is given later in the post.

Now, Maroon Berets are given to anyone who qualifies as an airborne soldier. That includes passing through the training modules of the Paratroopers and completing the required number of jumps.

The Discovery documentary which you're talking about has got it wrong. The guys shown are not Paratroopers, they are Para SF. And they are given the Maroon Beret AND a Special Forces tab on their shoulder when they pass.

http://scroll.in/article/814023/the...the-glorious-history-of-indias-special-forces

Read the first paragraph. Oh and don't doubt the credibility of Saikat Dutta. He is perhaps the only journalist in India to have covered Special Forces doing them the justice they fully deserve.

You'll find that Paratroopers do not have the Special Forces tabs on their shoulders.

SF guys are by default airborne qualified because they do complete the requisite static line jumps which the Paratroopers do. In addition to that, they attempt and qualify for the Combat Freefall course as well. The ones who complete CFF are given a separate badge for it.

you'll find that very few people who are only Paratroopers attempt Combat Freefall . I doubt it's even open to Paratroopers.

And about what you said that only Paratroopers can apply for Para SF. You're wrong. Anybody in the Army can apply to SF probation subject to their CO's approval.

And like you have quoted the Parachute Regiment's strength from Wikipedia, it contradicts your own point which you made earlier. and rightly so.
Airborne Soldiers are separate. Special Forces operators are separate.

There is no such thing as Special Forces (Airborne).
And if you're saying that SF battalions have a mixed composition of SF operators and regular Paratroopers by quoting Wikipedia as your source, then again you're wrong.



It is a misfortune that in our Army, Special Forces are part of the Parachute Regiment. There was an attempt to Separate the special forces and form a dedicated special forces Regiment.
But that attempt had to be scuttled under pressure from Paratrooper generals who didn't want the special forces having their own identity.
Again, this is not what I'm saying. This is written by Lt. Gen. PC Katoch, who has been a CO of 10 Para SF in the past during the times of IPKF in Sri Lanka.

As regards the NSG, they are Special Forces in a different context. That is by their mandate. But if you think that just by qualification of being an NSG trooper a soldier can be expected to be Paradropped into a jungle behind enemy lines and then wage unconventional warfare there, then that's just plain stupidity.
NSGs mandate is for CQB, Anti Terrorist ops, and Hostage Rescues.
And if you might note, they don't have a Special Forces tab on their shoulders. They have one saying Commando.
Unless an NSG trooper has come on deputation from an SF battalion. Then he'll have both.

I'm attaching a few excerpts from Lt Gen Prakash Katoch's book - India's Special Forces.
Perhaps it'll clear your confusion about Airborne Forces and Special Forces.

 

[WARREN SS]

You'll find that Paratroopers do not have the Special Forces tabs on their shoulders.

Do NSG Guy have Special forces TABs or Not ??
Do SPG Guys are SF TAG
Marcos has SF TAB


or Even SFF

But they are all Listed Special Forces Mandate Under MHA

And like you have quoted the Parachute Regiment's strength from Wikipedia, it contradicts your own point which you made earlier. and rightly so.
Airborne Soldiers are separate. Special Forces operators are separate.

There is no such thing as Special Forces (Airborne).
And if you're saying that SF battalions have a mixed composition of SF operators and regular Paratroopers by quoting Wikipedia as your source, then again you're wrong.

There No Wikipedia Quotes its

Facts

17 battalions (9 special forces, 5 airborne, 2 Territorial Army and 1 RR)
The Parachute Regiment has essentially two components — the parachute force and the Para SF, with battalions of 600-700 soldiers each

Do you Know What Battalion Strength of IA its 600-700 Soldiers How Do you think Para SF regiment Maintained there battalion Strength

You are Doubting Paratroopers Like they Some Sort of Amateurs Do you Know about US The 101st Airborne Division ("Screaming Eagles")
Paratrooper are Elite Units Weather Infantry or Airborne or SF

You'll find that Paratroopers do not have the Special Forces tabs on their shoulders.

SF guys are by default airborne qualified because they do complete the requisite static line jumps which the Paratroopers do. In addition to that, they attempt and qualify for the Combat Freefall course as well. The ones who complete CFF are given a separate badge for it.

you'll find that very few people who are only Paratroopers attempt Combat Freefall . I doubt it's even open to Paratroopers.

And about what you said that only Paratroopers can apply for Para SF. You're wrong. Anybody in the Army can apply to SF probation subject to their CO's approval.

And like you have quoted the Parachute Regiment's strength from Wikipedia, it contradicts your own point which you made earlier. and rightly so.
Airborne Soldiers are separate. Special Forces operators are separate.

There is no such thing as Special Forces (Airborne).
And if you're saying that SF battalions have a mixed composition of SF operators and regular Paratroopers by quoting Wikipedia as your source, then again you're wrong.

So Now I have Bust this Myth of SF TABs

Do you Ever Seen SF Tag on Marcos Navy Which Considered One of Most Elite Trier-1 Forces in Entire Armed Forces

Marcos Uniform

Garud SF

Secondly You Said Each Para SF is Automatically Para jump qualified How Because Para SF are Already Completed The 3 Months or 90 days training Process Paratroopers Training Course after 7 months Advanced Course

As regards the NSG, they are Special Forces in a different context. That is by their mandate. But if you think that just by qualification of being an NSG trooper a soldier can be expected to be Paradropped into a jungle behind enemy lines and then wage unconventional warfare there, then that's just plain stupidity.
NSGs mandate is for CQB, Anti Terrorist ops, and Hostage Rescues.
And if you might note, they don't have a Special Forces tab on their shoulders. They have one saying Commando.
Unless an NSG trooper has come on deputation from an SF battalion.

Here Once Again your Fascination With SF TAB is Astonishing

NSG or National Security Group Was Brain Child of Rameshwar Nath Kao or R.N Kao

Its a Its Agency which has its own Constitutional Mandate Same As Indian army
http://mha.nic.in/sites/upload_files/mha/files/pdf/NSGAct1986.pdf



For Further Reading read

LT Gen vivek oberoi observations

http://www.claws.in/images/publication_pdf/1064971754_CLAWSIssuebrief,No.7,2009.pdf

Now About Lt Katoch observation that there Confusion Btw Military Section about Airborne and SF
here He Pressed his own observation Rather Official MHA or HQ Line


Again I Tell you I will Take Official Line of MHA or IA HQ Rather Observation of One Official that to retired

 

[armyofhind]

Do NSG Guy have Special forces TABs or Not ??
Do SPG Guys are SF TAG
Marcos has SF TAB


or Even SFF

But they are all Listed Special Forces Mandate Under MHA


There No Wikipedia Quotes its

Facts

17 battalions (9 special forces, 5 airborne, 2 Territorial Army and 1 RR)
The Parachute Regiment has essentially two components — the parachute force and the Para SF, with battalions of 600-700 soldiers each

Do you Know What Battalion Strength of IA its 600-700 Soldiers How Do you think Para SF regiment Maintained there battalion Strength

You are Doubting Paratroopers Like they Some Sort of Amateurs Do you Know about US The 101st Airborne Division ("Screaming Eagles")
Paratrooper are Elite Units Weather Infantry or Airborne or SF


So Now I have Bust this Myth of SF TABs

Do you Ever Seen SF Tag on Marcos Navy Which Considered One of Most Elite Trier-1 Forces in Entire Armed Forces

Marcos Uniform

Garud SF

Secondly You Said Each Para SF is Automatically Para jump qualified How Because Para SF are Already Completed The 3 Months or 90 days training Process Paratroopers Training Course after 7 months Advanced Course

Here Once Again your Fascination With SF TAB is Astonishing

NSG or National Security Group Was Brain Child of Rameshwar Nath Kao or R.N Kao

Its a Its Agency which has its own Constitutional Mandate Same As Indian army
http://mha.nic.in/sites/upload_files/mha/files/pdf/NSGAct1986.pdf



For Further Reading read

LT Gen vivek oberoi observations

http://www.claws.in/images/publication_pdf/1064971754_CLAWSIssuebrief,No.7,2009.pdf

Now About Lt Katoch observation that there Confusion Btw Military Section about Airborne and SF
here He Pressed his own observation Rather Official MHA or HQ Line


Again I Tell you I will Take Official Line of MHA or IA HQ Rather Observation of One Official that to retired

Which Mandate are you talking about when we don't even have an official special forces doctrine?
and do not try to derail the topic by posting about other special forces.
I didn't say MARCOS, Garuds or NSG aren't Special Forces.

The argument was whether Paratroopers are special forces or not and whether there is any such thing as "Special Forces (Airborne)".
To that end, it has been reasonably justified that Paratroopers are not special forces. Paratroopers do not conduct anti terror or undercover ops. End of story.

Paratroopers are no doubt elite units. Nobody is DOUBTING that. They have a different role to play in a war and that's indispensable.

And the document which you've posted, what Lt Gen Vivek Oberoi is saying is itself advocating for a restructuring of Army Special Forces as a separate unit and not part of the Parachute Regiment.
The excerpts from the book which I posted say the same thing.
So we're saying the same thing as far as this is concerned.

 

[abingdonboy]

Not budget, I doubt It U See Army Is only Services in Tri Services Who are Poorly Equipped and Maintained
Navy and Air-forces in this regard Far ahead

As far I Know Budget of R&AW is somewhere around 4-5 Billion $ with Black Budget

You Can Run MNC in this Amount of fund Wonder Where funds are going

R&AW's budget is NOWHERE near $4-5 BN USD bro, it is well under $1BN.

 

[abingdonboy]

Do NSG Guy have Special forces TABs or Not ??
Do SPG Guys are SF TAG
Marcos has SF TAB


or Even SFF

But they are all Listed Special Forces Mandate Under MHA


There No Wikipedia Quotes its

Facts

17 battalions (9 special forces, 5 airborne, 2 Territorial Army and 1 RR)
The Parachute Regiment has essentially two components — the parachute force and the Para SF, with battalions of 600-700 soldiers each

Do you Know What Battalion Strength of IA its 600-700 Soldiers How Do you think Para SF regiment Maintained there battalion Strength

You are Doubting Paratroopers Like they Some Sort of Amateurs Do you Know about US The 101st Airborne Division ("Screaming Eagles")
Paratrooper are Elite Units Weather Infantry or Airborne or SF


So Now I have Bust this Myth of SF TABs

Do you Ever Seen SF Tag on Marcos Navy Which Considered One of Most Elite Trier-1 Forces in Entire Armed Forces

Marcos Uniform

Garud SF

Secondly You Said Each Para SF is Automatically Para jump qualified How Because Para SF are Already Completed The 3 Months or 90 days training Process Paratroopers Training Course after 7 months Advanced Course

Here Once Again your Fascination With SF TAB is Astonishing

NSG or National Security Group Was Brain Child of Rameshwar Nath Kao or R.N Kao

Its a Its Agency which has its own Constitutional Mandate Same As Indian army
http://mha.nic.in/sites/upload_files/mha/files/pdf/NSGAct1986.pdf



For Further Reading read

LT Gen vivek oberoi observations

http://www.claws.in/images/publication_pdf/1064971754_CLAWSIssuebrief,No.7,2009.pdf

Now About Lt Katoch observation that there Confusion Btw Military Section about Airborne and SF
here He Pressed his own observation Rather Official MHA or HQ Line


Again I Tell you I will Take Official Line of MHA or IA HQ Rather Observation of One Official that to retired

There are only THREE Special forces in India- PARA (SF), MARCOs and Garuds as recognised by the GoI. Special Forces is a VERY specific term and many get carried away with it, especially in India (have you seen those retarded lists about the "8 best special forces in India" that include MH state police's Force one, the ITBP, CISF and such).

The Garuds DO wear the SF tab (as to MARCOs):

There is no other force in India outside of the MARCOs, Garuds and PARA (SF) who can wear the Special Forces tab- FACT.

The SPG, SFF, Ghataks, CoBRA, NSG and even ITBP are specialsied forces- the SPG is the executive protection agency of India, the NSG is the federal government's intervention force, CoBRA are the CRPF's dedicated anti-naxal force but they are not Special Forces units. They ARE specialised units.

The Ghataks are Special Operations Capable infantry, again not SF.

The rest are SPECIALISED FORCES but NOT SFs.

The SOCOM being raised will have all 3 military SF units and PERHAPS the NSG's SAG.

NSG/CoBRA wear the "commando" badge:

+ Special Group has been left out of this discussion for obvious reasons.

 

[WARREN SS]

R&AW's budget is NOWHERE near $4-5 BN USD bro, it is well under $1BN.

There Separate Budget For All Actually R&AW & I&B are Now Subordinate Agency Which Reports To Defence Intelligence Agency (D.I.A.) Under Ministry of defense Headed by DG Armed forces GEN Which constituted in 2002 on the Merit of US Director of National Intelligence (DNI) after
Recommendations As part of expanding bilateral cooperation on gathering intelligence and fighting terrorism, the US also provided advice to Indian military officers on the creation of the DIA


Much of the agency's budget and operations are classified. DIA has control of Indian Army's prized technical intelligence assets – the Directorate of Signals Intelligence and the Defence Image Processing and Analysis Centre (DIPAC). While the Signals Directorate is responsible for acquiring and decrypting enemy communications, the DIPAC controls India's satellite-based image acquisition capabilities. The DIA also controls the Defence Information Warfare Agency (DIWA) which handles all elements of the information warfare repertoire, including psychological operations, cyber-war, electronic intercepts and the monitoring of sound waves. Its operations are highly classified and has several success to its credit which will remain a secret

Now R&AW in 2007 R&AW Sanctioned Budget Was Some where US$450 million+Black budget which constitute 40 % of the Original Funds close to 600-700 Million $ . Which Risen over the years to over 2 billion $ as R&AW Maintained Variety of Assets Including a Specialized Force SFF and SG

Currently Intelligence Bureau US$523.1 million of 2016
http://www.livemint.com/Politics/rp...201617-MHA-gets-Rs7738312-crore-a-2456-h.html

DIA has Similar Budget or Ever Larger Budget than both I&B and R&AW With wide-ranging resources and functions, the DIA is superior in Terms of Resources that of Intelligence agencies of Tri Services


Im Excluding JIC Which are Excluded from this Which have its Own Working Monthly Meets Actually
Like I Said There are Inter Services Fights Which backing us off Budget Sufficient if you compare are nemesis

 

[WARREN SS]

There are only THREE Special forces in India- PARA (SF), MARCOs and Garuds as recognised by the GoI. Special Forces is a VERY specific term and many get carried away with it, especially in India (have you seen those retarded lists about the "8 best special forces in India" that include MH state police's Force one, the ITBP, CISF and such).

The Garuds DO wear the SF tab (as to MARCOs):

There is no other force in India outside of the MARCOs, Garuds and PARA (SF) who can wear the Special Forces tab- FACT.

The SPG, SFF, Ghataks, CoBRA, NSG and even ITBP are specialsied forces- the SPG is the executive protection agency of India, the NSG is the federal government's intervention force, CoBRA are the CRPF's dedicated anti-naxal force but they are not Special Forces units. They ARE specialised units.

The Ghataks are Special Operations Capable infantry, again not SF.

The rest are SPECIALISED FORCES but NOT SFs.

The SOCOM being raised will have all 3 military SF units and PERHAPS the NSG's SAG.

NSG/CoBRA wear the "commando" badge:

+ Special Group has been left out of this discussion for obvious reasons.

Not As Per Govt or MHA Like I said There is confusion in Part of SF And SOF's Even
In the Army Like LT gen Katoch Mentioned Which he wrote in his books

NSG has constitutional Merit Like you Say Indian army Its Separate force 'Even SFF Which LT Gen Oberoi mentioned Should Come under Army Control

In India there are only few SOF or SF which has Constitutional Mandate that one is NSG Which Product of R.N KAO if you Know Who KAO Is

 

[WARREN SS]

Which Mandate are you talking about when we don't even have an official special forces doctrine?
and do not try to derail the topic by posting about other special forces.
I didn't say MARCOS, Garuds or NSG aren't Special Forces.

The argument was whether Paratroopers are special forces or not and whether there is any such thing as "Special Forces (Airborne)".
To that end, it has been reasonably justified that Paratroopers are not special forces. Paratroopers do not conduct anti terror or undercover ops. End of story.

Paratroopers are no doubt elite units. Nobody is DOUBTING that. They have a different role to play in a war and that's indispensable.

And the document which you've posted, what Lt Gen Vivek Oberoi is saying is itself advocating for a restructuring of Army Special Forces as a separate unit and not part of the Parachute Regiment.
The excerpts from the book which I posted say the same thing.
So we're saying the same thing as far as this is concerned.

Not As Per Govt or MHA Like I said There is confusion in Part of SF And SOF's Even
In the Army Like LT gen Katoch Mentioned Which he wrote in his books Which Posted

NSG has constitutional Merit Like you Say Indian army Its Separate force 'Even SFF Which LT Gen Oberoi mentioned Should Come under Army Control

What I'm Saying that It Ultimately MHA or Govt Decision or Call Not Some observation and recommendations Which has Merits

Neither yours or LT Gen Katoch words has Legal Authenticity Over MHA or Govt

Your Talking About Mandate
NSG or SPG is the Only SF or SOF Which has Constitutional Validity or Legality
All other SF are Either Part of Tri Services With No legal Authenticity by Govt

 

[WARREN SS]

There are only THREE Special forces in India- PARA (SF), MARCOs and Garuds as recognised by the GoI. Special Forces is a VERY specific term and many get carried away with it, especially in India (have you seen those retarded lists about the "8 best special forces in India" that include MH state police's Force one, the ITBP, CISF and such).

Please Show Me the constitutional Merit or Any Legal Document Which Certify there validity

only SOF or SF are SPG or NSG are governed by Constitutional Laws Which regulated by Legal Document

Source:
http://mha.nic.in/sites/upload_files/mha/files/pdf/NSGAct1986.pdf
http://www.spg.nic.in/spgact.htm

@abingdonboy Please Show Me Some thing like Above Legal document In regard Para SF or Marcos or Garud

You can't because all of them come under Indian armed forces Which has Constitutional Validity
and these forces are Part or Wings of Navy,Army or IAF but they don't have Separate Constitutional Validity by LAW or Govt

 

[Bornubus]

Para SF

In the AO

Andaman SEA

 

[lupgain]

I recommend it's not suggestive to upload Indian Soldiers faces through this site as this site is for public access, these photos may be misused to target our soldiers.. A thought ran through my mind, if JuD and LeT are looking for lone wolf attacks strategy like ISIS in future, then this could become dangerous.... I suggest to hide their face... I want everyone to think about it.. I myself am a son of retired IAF Officer and understand the risks around it..

 

[lupgain]

Googled a bit and found this commie link which mention beheading of Pakis by Indian Troops in Kargil. I perfectly justified this act whenever i hear the deeds of our troops in Kargil, who fought against all odds and their presence can still be felt in Kargil Heights.

However, this should not be taken as custom but rare exceptions, Personally if i ever got the chance i would've Piss on their bodies.

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Troops of the Naga and Jat regiments told us quite plainly they had killed a few intruders they had captured alive in the heights above Drass. “It was rage, just rage,” one Naga soldier said, “They killed many of our mates, we were angry. When we got them, we butchered them.” As and when they brought bodies of intruders back from the heights, the tied them with ropes and dragged them down. “We had enough load to carry as it was, who was going to bother carrying their bodies? Dragging them down was a favour.” There was no sense of guilt or remorse there, just plain retelling; it was as if a fire of emotion had cleansed the act of murder. [Sankarshan Thakur]



___________________________________________________________________________________
Harinder Baweja, who covered the Kargil war for India Today and is currently with the Hindustan Times, tweeted about a similar experience, and was kind enough to share with me the relevant passage from her Kargil book, A Soldier’s Diary. Published in 2000 by the India Today Group, the book was written in the first person of a soldier. Here is the excerpt:

“We have their dead. And a head. The experiences of 18 Garhwal also show another side of the war. The frustration that has built up among our jawans and the thirst for revenge. Having captured Point 4700, not without significant casualties, their jawans went berserk. One of them took out his knife and slit the head of a Pakistani soldier in one stroke. The head was sent to the Brigade Headquarters at Drass and pinned to a tree trunk. None of the enemy had yet been captured alive – but this is proof that it is only a matter of time. The enemy head, a grisly trophy, became an exhibition piece. Maj Gen Puri came down from Mughalpura to see it. Other officers dropped in to Brigade Headquarters to take a look. So did some of the journalists who have been routinely visiting the Brigade Headquarters. It was there, pinned on the tree, for anyone who could bear to look at it. In fact, the reporters were shown the head with the warning they they won’t be able to sleep for the next three nights. The sight of the pinched face, hair intact, served the macabre purpose of motivating the troops. Or at least, that’s what some Brigade officers believed. To be honest, it did. This is the first time we have laid our hands on the enemy. We have killed one of them. The sight of the head pinned on a tree has a salutary effect. It kind of makes us feel better. The enemy is no longer invisible. Or invincible. It hangs there for a couple of days before Maj Gen Puri asks for it to be removed, after which it is buried in a corner.”


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https://kafila.org/2013/01/16/in-multiples-of-ten-ravanas/


Perspective
Confessions of a war reporter June 2001
By Barkha Dutt
During the Kargil War, Barkha Dutt’s was a familiar face on the television screen, bringing live action on the Star News channel. But she was not telling us the complete story. Now she does.



I had to look three times to make sure I was seeing right. Balanced on one knee, in a tiny alley behind the army’s administrative offices, I was peering through a hole in a corrugated tin sheet. At first glance, all I could see were some leaves. I looked harder and amidst all the green, there was a hint of black – it looked like a moustache. “Look again,” said the army colonel, in a tone that betrayed suppressed excitement. This time, I finally saw.

It was a head, the disembodied face of a slain soldier nailed onto a tree. “The boys got it as a gift for the brigade,” said the colonel, softly, but proudly. Before I could react, the show was over. A faded gunny bag appeared from nowhere, shrouded the soldier’s face, the brown of the bag now merging indistinguishably with the green of the leaves. Minutes later, we walked past the same tree where the three soldiers who had earlier unveiled the victory trophy were standing. From the corner of his eye, the colonel exchanged a look of shard achievement, and we moved on. We were firmly in the war zone.

Dear, I respect your sentiment, but I believe, beheading is wrong custom... we should start respecting enemy soldiers because after the enemy is dead he is a martyr... Irrespective of how the uncivilized enemy would have behaved.. not because we are civilized but we respect humanity in enemy too

 

[aditya10r]

Dear, I respect your sentiment, but I believe, beheading is wrong custom... we should start respecting enemy soldiers because after the enemy is dead he is a martyr... Irrespective of how the uncivilized enemy would have behaved.. not because we are civilized but we respect humanity in enemy too

the only difference between indian army and paki army is that we do not do mass murders,genocides or rapes
but they do they did that in bangladesh and in balochistan
they are no soldiers they are terrorists

 

[Bornubus]

Dear, I respect your sentiment, but I believe, beheading is wrong custom... we should start respecting enemy soldiers because after the enemy is dead he is a martyr... Irrespective of how the uncivilized enemy would have behaved.. not because we are civilized but we respect humanity in enemy too

You should not take this as general custom but exceptions, Indian Army is the most disciplined Army in the world. Pak POW themselves expressed their gratitude and surprised to see this in 197, when they were saved them from Mukti bahini, Indian troops saluted Paki Officers escorted by Indian counterparts.

Kargil was a Payback for saurav kalia and others. Pakis use to booby trap our dead when troops tried to retrieve their bodies and in the process there were additional casualties.

 

[Bornubus]

I recommend it's not suggestive to upload Indian Soldiers faces through this site as this site is for public access, these photos may be misused to target our soldiers.. A thought ran through my mind, if JuD and LeT are looking for lone wolf attacks strategy like ISIS in future, then this could become dangerous.... I suggest to hide their face... I want everyone to think about it.. I myself am a son of retired IAF Officer and understand the risks around it..

There are clear official instructions in service rules that troops should not post pics showing weapon and equipment of the unit and also any pic which points out the deployment of unit.


My father still hesitant to give me his 20 year old pic from Siachen lol

 

[lupgain]

There are clear official instructions in service rules that troops should not post pics showing weapon and equipment of the unit and also any pic which points out the deployment of unit.


My father still hesitant to give me his 20 year old pic from Siachen lol

that is so true... I agree about aforesaid operational instructions have been led by Indian army, ... and as referred by you... but my concern is otherwise public forums like ours, where people from different countries visit, we may never know that these pics could lead to targetting our soldiers... some photos above surely are morphed properly to hide faces of our soldiers but more that 90% of photos are not morphed properly. What I suggest that ADMIN members of this group should have right, to update the unmorphed photos of our soldiers in case any user has forgotten or might not know how to morph a pic and hide a face our ADMIN team probably could do this and upload it again.. I m just suggesting

 

[rishivashista13]

Special Group or 22 SF or The Mavericks -


Indians know how to keep secrets and one of the secret reveal when the existence of SFF came into news and it spread like a forest fire, discussions taken place on social media and all over internet but in between those discussions pictures of soldiers with a badge which anybody have never seen before starts coming out and race amongst defence analyst and defence enthusiasts begin to identify the badge and its unit, the unit recognized as Special Group though of its information came out is negligible cause the force is well hidden till last 4-5 years. From its existence from 1981 to present the only information available is stated below.

https://elitepredators.wordpress.com/2016/08/24/special-group-or-22-sf-or-the-mavericks-2/
Read it .
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[armyofhind]

2nd Para SF in Sierra Leone

 

[rishivashista13]

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2nd Para SF in Sierra Leone

Operation Khukri ?

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[Bornubus]

Old pic of Para when they captured a malnourished Jihadi after flushed him out, using "chilli" grenade.