Indian Police Force

[Waanar]

Delhi police swat team commando.

Delhi SWAT seems like it has no idea what it's for.

 

[Tanmay]

Nagaland Police receive first consignment of Tavor X95 rifles

The first consignment of Tavor X95 assault rifles reached Nagaland.

The Nagaland police personnel are all set to use the assault rifles produced by the Israel Weapon Industries (IWI).

Sharing a picture of IWI Tavor X95 assault rifles being checked by a few Nagaland Police personnel, WeTheNagas, a leading digital news platform in Nagaland, tweeted: “Nagaland police is all set to add a new weapon to its armoury as the first phase consignment of Israel weapon industries (IWI) Tavor X95 assault rifles arrived in the State.”

WeTheNagas: Nagaland police is all set to add a new weapon to its armoury as the first phase consignment of Israel weapon industries(IWI) Tavor X95 assault rifles arrived in the state. #Nagaland #Naga #Kohima #NagalandPolice Our Sponsor: Nagaland Doors.

The IWI Tavor X95, which is also called Micro-Tavor, MTAR, and MTAR-21, is an assault rifle, designed and produced by Israel Weapon Industries (IWI) as part of the Tavor rifle family, along with the TAR-21 and the Tavor 7.

The Tavor X95 can be easily distinguished by the location of its cocking handle.


An X95 cocking handle is closer to the pistol grip.

The Tavor X95, with the use of a relatively simple conversion kit, can be converted from a 5.56 mm assault rifle to a 9 mm submachine gun.

A media report earlier quoted Nagaland director general of police (DGP), T John Longkumer as saying that X95, the Israeli manufactured assault rifles, would replace the normal weapons used by Nagaland police personnel, such as the SLR rifles.

It was earlier reported that being the standard assault rifles of the Israeli military, upgrading to the IWI X95 will have a great advantage for the Nagaland cops during various situations as the assault rifle weighs less than 3 kg, which is one of the lightest assault rifles.

Nagaland Police receive first consignment of Tavor X95 rifles

The first consignment of Tavor X95 assault rifles reached Nagaland. The Nagaland police personnel are all set to use the assault rifles produced by the Israel Weapon Industries (IWI). Sharing a picture of IWI Tavor X95 assault rifles being checked by a few Nagaland Police personnel, WeTheNagas...

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Is it from their Indian JV? Or shipped from Israel?

Its interesting how Tavor which was supposed to be purchased in limited numbers for Army Spec Forces is now found across India.

Same story for that Beretta Mx4Storme.. That ugly pea shooter really found a Treasure Box$$$ here.

 

[Vishal reddy]

This is Himachal Pradesh police commando

 

[WolfPack86]

Mumbai police rocket launcher.

 

[Bhadra]

Army revives interest in ITBP command​

ihttp://idrw.org/army-revives-interest-in-itbp-command/#more-228738 .

The Indian Army has renewed its demand for operational command of the Indo-Tibetan Border Police, amid talk of “intelligence and command failure” leading to the ongoing stand-off and Chinese build-up along the Line of Actual Control in eastern Ladakh. Government sources said the army has recently revived its demand to take over the operational command of the paramilitary force, which reports to Union home minister Amit Shah. “The turf war between the defence ministry and the home ministry over the control of the ITBP is a long-standing issue but it has again gained momentum in the midst of the escalating tension between Indian and Chinese troops in eastern Ladakh. The army has repeated its demand saying the paramilitary force was not sufficiently equipped to meet the challenges posed by the Chinese troops at the disputed frontier,” said a home ministry official. The ITBP, which guards the 3,488km China frontier which passes along Arunachal Pradesh, Sikkim, Uttarakhand, Himachal Pradesh and Jammu and Kashmir, is the first line of defence on the LAC and the army remains behind it. Sources said the army’s contention was that the China frontier is under constant threat, considering frequent border skirmishes and face-off and several incidents of transgression by the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA). “The army feels it should have the command of the ITBP to ensure better patrolling along the LAC especially at sensitive areas which have witnessed transgression and face-off in the past,” said a defence ministry official. The home ministry, however, has a different view. It has cited said that according to international conventions, paramilitary forces guard the borders and the army remains behind the first line of defence. “Even on the Chinese side, the People’s Armed Police, also a paramilitary force, guards the border while the People’s Liberation Army is stationed behind this first line of defence,” a home ministry official said. The home ministry has cited that the Border Security Force (BSF) guards the Pakistan and Bangladesh borders and the Sashastra Seema Bal (SSB) stands guard along the borders with Nepal and Bhutan. “The home ministry has said that it was not in favour of handing over the command of the ITBP to the defence ministry. Instead, it has decided to deploy more border guards and increase ITBP presence along the Chinese frontier to counter transgressions,” the official said. Sources said the Indian Army had for the first time in 1986 demanded operational command of the ITBP. But the demands became more insistent since 1999 when a Chinese intrusion at Chip Chap in the disputed Aksai Chin region was reported while Indian troops were engaged in the Kargil war with Pakistan. Shah has been maintaining that the 90,000-strong paramilitary force was raised on October 24, 1962, specifically for guarding the Chinese frontier after the India-China war.

 

[Bhadra]

Border Policing / Border Guarding Forces
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Without going into the history of CAPF, their origins, tasks, roles and employment. it would be wise and logical that we start from the year 2004 when a GoM recommended that CAPF border Policing Forces be employed on the basis of “One Border One Force”. Accordingly the three CAPFs namely BSF, ITBP and SSB have been reorganised and strengthened keeping in view their tasking for one border one force.

The entire stretch of India-China Border comprising 3488 Kms was assigned to the ITBP for Border Guarding duty and, accordingly, ITBP replaced Assam Rifles in Sikkim and Arunachal Pradesh in 2004.

The ITBP today stands at a strength of 60 battalions and other administrative and training structures. It is supposed to be equipped, trained and employed as border policing Force as per GOM mandate.

Border Policing, Conter Insurgency and Internal Security. Contrary to the GOM mandate post-Kargil War Subhramanuim Committee report. all the three border Police Forces have started assuming their roles in Counter Insurgency and internal security. A specific Force- CRPF with the present strength of 246 Bns, (including 208 executive Bns, 6 Mahila Bns, 15 RAF Bns, 10 CoBRA Bns, 5 Signal Bns and 1 Special Duty Group, 1 Parliament Duty Group), 43 Group Centres, 20 Training Institutions, 3 CWS, 7 AWS, 3 SWS, 4 Composite Hospitals of 100 bed and 17 Composite Hospitals of 50 bed. ) has been mandated for internal security tasks.

Why Are Forces being multi Tasked Contrary to Mandate. "The threats to internal security" is the new mantra and foundation of present-day IPS domain and empire-building which earlier used to be "law and Order". The IPS are capable of penetrating and controlling multiple agencies and organisations in the name of "Internal Security ranging from NSG to IB, Railway Police, NIA, RAW, CAPF, CRPF besides the system of the constabulary.

The role and tasking dictates, arming, structuring, organisation and equipping patterns. Border guarding and internal security are not similar task. The employment doctrines of CRPF can not be slipped on ITBP. But that is what is happening.

If ITBP. SSB and BSF have purely semi para military task as mandated by GOM, then the IPS claim over those forces weakens. That is why Conter insurgency and internal security seems to have been added to all CAPF.

If it is argued that the counter-insurgency and internal Security demand employment of more forces, then CRPF the force mandated and organised for it should increase. Why scrounge on border guarding forces.

If that is the case, it simply means that either Border Policing is not being taken seriously or security of borders has become secondary place tasks.

 

[Bhadra]

All Borders Are Different Neccessitating Diffrent Approaches
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Policing or a guarding method and approaches for a border are dictated by the nature of border, the threat to a particular border and prevalent terrain.

Indo - Nepal and Indo Bhutan Border (SSB). it is well-settled IB requiring policing of the border during peacetime. It is essentially a border policing area.

Indo Pak IB and Indo Bangladesh IB. Bothe are well settled IB, having no disputes and posing law and order problems as peacetime three. BSF has been mandated to police and guard the border during peace which means not against military threats. However there are enhanced law and order three on both the borders in the form of smuggling, human trafficking infiltration and illegal trade.

Indo Myanmar IB. Though it is an IB but there is significant threats to the border from well armed and equipped insurgents and armed groups from both sides of the border necessitating employment of a paramilitary Force under command Army.
Indo- PAK LOC. Totally contested and militarised border under Army.

India - China LAC. This border is totally different in all aspects - nature of the border, the threats and terrain. This the only border which is truly a "guarding" border rather than a policing border. There are no law and order problems to manage on this border. no population, no infiltration, no cross border movement of populations. no trade, no line no fence. It is not even defined. The terrain is not suitable for policing, the threats are purely military.

Thus ITBP has to be purely a semi-military force to be structured and organised to hold posts, patrol inaccessible areas, face military threats and survive in High Altitude Areas along with Army. Its logistics, support and control can not and should not vest with an organisation which is 300 km behind in Leh, Srinagar or Chandigarh or Dehradun and Tejpur/Guwahati.

 

[Bhadra]

Higher Structures of CAPF and ITBP
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Every Force or organisation must be controlled, directed and supervised for which it has higher level setups or say in this case HQs. However, every higher level orgnistaional component or HQ must have a functional role and task. In the case of CAPF, which has an operational task, the HQ must also have operation justification for its existence.

In the case of CAPF ? ITBP Sector HQ and above have no operational roles and tasks except BSF in one odd cases. All these organisations ape the Army right to the size and colour of stars without realising that all Army Organisations have operational roles and tsk.

Thre is nothing and no way sectors or Frontier HQ of ITP can influence any ITBP operations anyway except for providing directions. That too is not possible because those are so far away from the ground. In the Army a divisional HQ can shape and influence the battle in many ways due to support elements, reserves, intelligence and analysis. A Frontier HQ has no such task, role of function. One one IG rank officer sits to look after supplies and administration.

It is because of these realities that Army has no use for CAPF / ITBP organisations higher than maybe a sector HQ.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Higher Structures of CAPF and ITBP
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Every Force or organisation must be controlled, directed and supervised for which it has higher level setups or say in this case HQs. However, every higher level orgnistaional component or HQ must have a functional role and task. In the case of CAPF, which has an operational task, the HQ must also have operation justification for its existence.

In the case of CAPF ? ITBP Sector HQ and above have no operational roles and tasks except BSF in one odd cases. All these organisations ape the Army right to the size and colour of stars without realising that all Army Organisations have operational roles and tsk.

Thre is nothing and no way sectors or Frontier HQ of ITP can influence any ITBP operations anyway except for providing directions. That too is not possible because those are so far away from the ground. In the Army a divisional HQ can shape and influence the battle in many ways due to support elements, reserves, intelligence and analysis. A Frontier HQ has no such task, role of function. One one IG rank officer sits to look after supplies and administration.

It is because of these realities that Army has no use for CAPF / ITBP organisations higher than maybe a sector HQ.

Sir how many rounds on average does a soldier fire in his training time?
Do they have a minimum qualification requirement?

 

[Bhadra]

Is LAC Management a Piece Time Activity . LAC nowhere is a peacetime terrain, threat and task. There are no peacetime like threat to LAC. So by advocating policing of LAC who are the Indian establishment especially the IPS bosses and MEA diplomats trying to impress?
The Norms of Policing the Border. This a dominant theme and argument advance by IPS and others that the border should be policed keeping in with international norms. However, they forget that if delimited and demarcated LOC is not border to follow those norms. how can LAC which is disputed, not delimited, militarily threatened fit into the bill to follow international norms?? What qualifies LAC to be treated like a legal entity at par with IB?

What is Across the Border. Rangers and Muzahid battalions are paramilitary forces officer by Pakistani Army regulars and those forces are under command Army for border management / placing even during peace. Same is the case of Bangladesh BDR. The BDR in Tibbet is an extension of PLA and by no standards are the police force. Myanmar border is looked after by their Army. Then why pontificate ourselves on untenable arguments.

 

[Bhadra]

Policing Vs Militarisation
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I have come often come across a very faulty argument advanced even by very senior IPS officers that Policing is very different from Military functions. I agree with them so far as policing means beat constabulary or policing through thanas. But Policing by Armed Police battalions, CRPF is a semi-military function where police enforce law and order with the strength of gun barrels.

More than that CAPF is an absolute Para Military tasks when border police like BSF is armed with even artillery guns, assault boats etc, CRPF has ten Commando battalions" equipped with much more sophisticated weapons than Army. CI/ CT operations are purely Para military tasks.

Then the arguments viers around degree of violence - meaning that Army uses more violence than police. Thousand of videos on police violence speak other way round. I have worked in close coordination with police forces like SOG etc for many years and my personnel experience says Police Personnels are much more trigger happy and violent than Army personnel.

In fact, they scold you in Army on bad firing discipline by saying " you are firing like CRP or BSF "....

The theme of the story - all armed Policemen especially all CAPF require basic Army training and skills..

 

[Bhadra]

Command and Control Of ITBP​

LAC Mangement During Peace. We use LAC management as a jargon but that actually amounts to Policing India China border during peacetime. Here peace time means that the war has not been declared otherwise the entire LAC lies in a highly active operational area where the main threat is the terrain and Chinese military. No law and order threat. Management of LAC during peace is the responsibility of ITBP. ITBP is not under command Army during peace and only God knows why ? What purpose is served by that and who's purpose?

LAC Mangement and The Army During Peace. The Army is in the operational area but deployed quite in-depth areas away from LAC or one can say behind the ITBP. The army can provide support and back up to ITBP during crisis but time and distances have its own prices. Moreover, there is no communication, no reporting, no command and control set up between the two so Army reacting to crisis is that much difficult and delayed.

ITBP During War. War here means the declaration of War. The ITBP places certain ITBP battalions under command Army Who then utilises those for the military task that can be undertaken by ITBP. The Sector HQ, Frontier HQ and others in ITBP just wash their hands off and I do not know what then they do.

Why Sector HQs are not Placed Under command. If ITBP or border police Sector HQ are placed under command, the Army can utilise those and ITBP battalions in a better manner. But Sector HQ (equivalent to Brigade HQ commanded by DIG) are not placed under command. The reason actually is so silly that it is unbelievable. The Reason is IPS. IPS officers are posted to CAPF from Secor upwards that in the post and rank of DIG. The IPS officers simply consider it below their dignity to serve under command an Army man...

Laugh my heart out... For my Motherland, where bureaucratic egoist interests are far above national interests.

Solution - Ban IPS being posted to CAPF below an IG. So simple. but not so simple.

 

[Bhadra]

What are the Solutions
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Option One. Paramilitarisation of ITBP on the lines of Assam Rifles.

Option Two. Place LAC under Army during peace and War and sanction required numbers of additional battalions of Army for that task.

Option Three. Place required numbers of ITBP battalions and Sector HQ commanded by ITBP Officer under Command Army during Peace and War including for logistics support. Other administrative command and control remains with MHA. The Secotor HQ continues to discharge administrative functions through the chain of command. The system of dual reporting can be adopted.

Best Option For All CAPF. Training of recruits and officers by Army, minimum five years colour service in the Army and then lateral transfer into CAPF with the option to continue in Army subject to qualifying for that. This system along with Option three is the best option for the management of CAPFs.

 

[Vishal reddy]

This is Sikkim police STF!!!

 

[aditya g]

Regarding ITBP and BSF, one reform they could undertake is to transfer these to MoD. If these agencies are border management agencies, then why would they be under home ministry at all?

For RR, they need to convert it to a permanent force, and put LoC management as its eventual role once the insurgency is finished or CRPF and JKP can take it over. Perhaps the force can one day manage both border and CI/CT like the AR if the militancy level diminishes considerably.

They should also consider merging RPF and CISF, and SSB and ITBP.

@Bhadra please consider collating your thoughts into an article and publishing it via any blogging site.

 

[WolfPack86]

Force One Commandos - Mumbai Police QRT In Action (Goosebumps Guaranteed)

 

[Unknowncommando 2]

Force One Commandos - Mumbai Police QRT In Action (Goosebumps Guaranteed)

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[Unknowncommando 2]

NSG Training Women SWAT of Delhi Police

 

[Bhadra]

Regarding ITBP and BSF, one reform they could undertake is to transfer these to MoD. If these agencies are border management agencies, then why would they be under home ministry at all?

For RR, they need to convert it to a permanent force, and put LoC management as its eventual role once the insurgency is finished or CRPF and JKP can take it over. Perhaps the force can one day manage both border and CI/CT like the AR if the militancy level diminishes considerably.

They should also consider merging RPF and CISF, and SSB and ITBP.

@Bhadra please consider collating your thoughts into an article and publishing it via any blogging site.

Sir, there are so many articles on the issue published by stalwarts like Gen Chibber. I have thousands of offers to write or join some Media channels but I refused and am happy in DFI.

IPS bureaucracy has developed permanent stakes in CAPF and they have been raised those from fifty-odd battalions to about five hundred battalions. IPS has developed stakes in the continuation of Internal threats because that is the basis of this big empire.

CAPF should never be part of MoD or this CAPF mela will all eat up Defense Budget...They should be under MHA only but must be made available for Defence Tasks... even to conduct CI/CT Ops.

Today, the country and Defense of India is facing the largest problem in increasing outlays on pensions which is hindering capital expenditure and acquisitions.

The best and only solution to that is routing all CAPF including their officer cadre through Army. They are trained by Army, then they serve in Army for a minimum of five years and after that are laterally transferred to CAPF. This will reduce Mod pensionary liability by almost 90 percent. This will militarise the CAPF as also create worth 20 Divisions of trained soldiers reserves so vitally required for Northern Front. Police will get better-trained constables to fight Naxals and another insurgency and guard the border more efficiently.

Objections raised against such proposals are very superficial and can be comfortably overcome byminor tweeks ...

I really do not know why CDS Gen Rawat is not working on it..

This system ensures ;

IPS / police empire will remain intact,
the CAPF Officers cadre empire also remains intact.
Reservation regime can also be catered to
and the Army will always remain young...
The number of youth employed will not reduce
and a standing Army will remain as it is.

 

[Unknowncommando 2]

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