Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[flanker99]

nlca in BG of last img.

 

[v952010]

old vikrant and viraat

 

[Fatalis]

 

[samsaptaka]

Indian nay could follow three different doctrine in the future.
First one is 'Free Rider' stance, it largely relies on outside powers to secure the sea lines of communication and requires a minimum fleet. This is India's current fleet structure. It doesn't have to capability to deny another great power access to the IOR

Next iteration is 'The constable'. This is largely defensive in nature but asserts regional pre-eminence. Fleet structure with this would be multiple AC's that would enable India to fight a defensive conflict and deny another power competitor access to the IOR if necessary but it doesn't claim hegemonic power over the IOR. Under this fleet structure India would still allow navies like the US to operate in the IOR but would be very of possible rivals like Chinese.

Last one is the 'Strong man fleet'. This is much more aggressive towards outside powers and has the potential to be offensive. This could be a 9-10 carrier fleet and this would provide India with the ability to deny access to IOR as a whole to any other competitor in addition to projecting power into the pacific, Mediterranean and the Atlantic.

India naturally will fall within the free rider and constable range. The strongman fleet is possible given its growing resources. For US national security interests, the development of a strong man navy by India would represent a serious impediment to our own ability to operate. So question becomes what can US do to both ensure that India and US remains strategic partners but also avoid [prevent] the building of the strong man fleet to begin with.

For US its imperative that it maintains access to the IOR and that it keeps India co-operative. To do this, First is arms sales. Maintaining permanent deployment of forces to the IOR and more co-operation joint exercises and joint operations keeps US involved in the day today power structure and operations. If India feels its completely exposed at the sea and feels like its living in a somewhat chaotic environment it may move towards the strong man approach. The best way to keep India co-operative and its navy moderate is to maintain an active presence in the region because once the strong man fleet is built it could change the Indian's intensions. So for US if they are on a free rider or constable fleet structure they would rely on us for a great deal of their security and that's the best way to ensure the strategic partnership and India stays co-operative.

USA - The Empire by other means

 

[samsaptaka]

They have the ip and tech
They can built how much ever they want without any third party involvement
Each and every part is indegenized even engine upgrades are going on
They converted it to catapult capable aircraft which they will induct with fujian along with 5th gen fighters
Every single thing goes there is Chinese
Yeah everyone shouts performance but that can made better and they are making it

I kinda of understand and support what you're saying. In the larger game, whether your fighter/carrier is a purely indigenous design or not does not matter, as long as you can churn out numbers with acceptable quality and not rely on imports of spares/engines. As you rightly say, chinka can do that, we can't. So even if we have 'beat' them in the indigenous carrier/aircraft game, it does not guarantee any security or peace of mind (unless we start churning out NLCA in numbers and IN inducts it)

 

[v952010]

 

[flanker99]

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If Both carriers rendezvous at the same place it will be a sight to behold

 

[DumbPilot]

If Both carriers rendezvous at the same place it will be a sight to behold

Imagine if both of them had their own escort fleet alongside, and both of them had planes.

 

[Gyyan]

Boeing is ready to move F-18 production to India with conditions. – Indian Defence Research Wing

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[Fatalis]

 

[jai jaganath]

 

[v952010]

 

[gslv markIII]

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Boeing is ready to move F-18 production to India with conditions. – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

shiet that's a hot deal

 

[Gyyan]

shiet that's a hot deal

Dunno if they will go with it.
If anything the basic idea for MRFA was along with jets we get manufacturing technology if they are able to get it in 57 then it's a good deal.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Dunno if they will go with it.
If anything the basic idea for MRFA was along with jets we get manufacturing technology if they are able to get it in 57 then it's a good deal.

They already made a better pitch than Dassault who agreed to local assembly and partial production only after ordering 128+ aircraft. Picking the right aircraft aside, Boeing would setup the line faster anyway, and this Indian plant would see orders from other countries.

 

[Gyyan]

They already made a better pitch than Dassault who agreed to local assembly and partial production only after ordering 128+ aircraft. Picking the right aircraft aside, Boeing would setup the line faster anyway, and this Indian plant would see orders from other countries.

No other country is interested Boeing was going to stop the production line.

 

[Marliii]

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[ObiWanKenobi]

Does anybody know if we have CCS approval for the 3 SSNs yet?

 

[SKC]