Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[IndianHawk]

CSL built the first Aircraft Carrier with no prior experience in just 12 years from the keel laying in 2009. That too when work was hampered in between due to Russia playing hardball with the steel and CSL went on a partnership with DRDO and Domestic PSU SAIL to get the steel done.

Exactly vikrant was first project. They had to build everything from scratch including training of workforce. Now all that is readily available. So they can speed up things.
Also delays in vikrant were because of changes by navy too.

I believe they can deliver a 40000 ton copy of vikrant in 7-8 years. And a 65k Carrier can be delivered in 10 years if design is frozen.

 

[IndianHawk]

Even if they miss the schedule by a decade, what are the repercussions for a DPSU? Nothing.

So not like they owe any explanation to the shareholders...its all a 'take it or leave it' approach. So, they're comfortable with being bashful

Besides they are only shipyards capable of building aircraft carriers in India. So they have a monopoly on it for now.

But the points made by @Javelin_Sam are relevant. They have done a great job with vikrant given russian steel denial , delay in securing foreign weaponary and lack of skilled labour for such a project.

So they can be confident.

 

[binayak95]

That is quite a lot of confidence from CSL for a carrier that is not only larger, but far more complex due to imported IEP and EMALS CATOBAR. And who is building the aviation complex for IAC-2? If its the Russians, then forget all this talk about meeting 8 year deadlines.

US - the CWG has given us enough know how to make this on our own. At any rate Hunington Ingalls would be the consultant this time around, not Ficanterri

 

[binayak95]

CSL built the first Aircraft Carrier with no prior experience in just 12 years from the keel laying in 2009. That too when work was hampered in between due to Russia playing hardball with the steel and CSL went on a partnership with DRDO and Domestic PSU SAIL to get the steel done.

Well to be fair, they hired Ficanterri as consultant.

 

[Kumata]

 

[Love Charger]

When it will be commissioned?

 

[Kumata]

When it will be commissioned?

Not much info Unforutnately...But expect another 3-4 years at best fot fitments et all..

 

[Love Charger]

Not much info Unforutnately...But expect another 3-4 years at best fot fitments et all..

Inshallah sir , we shall wait

 

[thebakofbakchod]

Not much info Unforutnately...But expect another 3-4 years at best fot fitments et all..

Why so long? That means no improvements at all over the P15Bs

 

[Kumata]

Inshallah sir , we shall wait

Yeah Been a while that karachi was "lit"

We must "insha allah"

 

[Kumata]

Why so long? That means no improvements at all over the P15Bs

Its a P-17A (Nilgiri) class not P15B. excuse me i am not technically aligned and not much familiar with Naval frigates class boats.

My dates were purely guess work.. further research gave me below. She shud be in waters by mid next year...MAX .. Launched on time

 

[Blademaster]

How powerful are these boats compared to their contemporaries around the world and its capabilities? Lafayette? Chinese frigate? Japan/S Korea frigate? British frigate? Krivak frigate?

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

How powerful are these boats compared to their contemporaries around the world and its capabilities? Lafayette? Chinese frigate? Japan/S Korea frigate? British frigate? Krivak frigate?

Our Nilgiri boats have sensor netting, AESA MFR and a good SAM system. Meaning it beats them all by a large margin. Except perhaps the new French ones that are currently under construction (FDI class) because they also have sensor netting. But then our boats have BrahMos, so there is that advantage to consider as well.
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Other than the ones you mentioned, American Constellation class will be more advanced. No idea about the Anglo bois though. Their next generation Type 26 frigates has its fair share of issues right now. But on paper they do appear to be more advanced due to carrying more VLS. But then again, they don't have sensor netting. And the Australian version is hopelessly overweight.

 

[nongaddarliberal]

How powerful are these boats compared to their contemporaries around the world and its capabilities? Lafayette? Chinese frigate? Japan/S Korea frigate? British frigate? Krivak frigate?

They're better than most existing frigates out there. Better Anti Ship capability that any of the other frigates. Air defence is top notch with 32 Barak 8. Let's not even compare to the shit quality Chinese air defences on PLAN ships. The new Russian frigates have better land attack capability though, due to their larger number of klub missiles. Future French and British frigates will be comparable to the Nilgiri class in capability, but they'll take more time to be built.

The future American constellation class will be more capable, but it's pretty much a destroyer at 7500 tons, and it will have AEGIS.

 

[vampyrbladez]

Any news on INS Nilgiri ?

Last image from January, 2022 was this :

 

[binayak95]

Our Nilgiri boats have sensor netting, AESA MFR and a good SAM system. Meaning it beats them all by a large margin. Except perhaps the new French ones that are currently under construction (FDI class) because they also have sensor netting. But then our boats have BrahMos, so there is that advantage to consider as well.
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Other than the ones you mentioned, American Constellation class will be more advanced. No idea about the Anglo bois though. Their next generation Type 26 frigates has its fair share of issues right now. But on paper they do appear to be more advanced due to carrying more VLS. But then again, they don't have sensor netting. And the Australian version is hopelessly overweight.

I'd add the new Japanese frigates as top tier ships as well. The Mogamis are defining state of the art right now.

 

[rohit b3]

Our Nilgiri boats have sensor netting, AESA MFR and a good SAM system. Meaning it beats them all by a large margin. Except perhaps the new French ones that are currently under construction (FDI class) because they also have sensor netting. But then our boats have BrahMos, so there is that advantage to consider as well.
.
Other than the ones you mentioned, American Constellation class will be more advanced. No idea about the Anglo bois though. Their next generation Type 26 frigates has its fair share of issues right now. But on paper they do appear to be more advanced due to carrying more VLS. But then again, they don't have sensor netting. And the Australian version is hopelessly overweight.

French FDI are lighter Frigates, not where comparable to Nilgiri. They have lower range/endurance, 1 Helicopter deck, Light Torpedos.....and while the Greek variants have similar Air defence like Nilgiri, they fall aawfully behind due to our BrahMos advantage.
PS- Im pretty sure Nilgiri and all future warships will be equipped with the 700 kms+ BrahMos-ER.

Nilgiri will be the best frigate in the world .

 

[Lonewolf]

Any news on INS Nilgiri ?

Last image from January, 2022 was this :

Not Jan pic but last October pic

 

[vampyrbladez]

Not Jan pic but last October pic

Any recent image ?

 

[Blademaster]

I'd add the new Japanese frigates as top tier ships as well. The Mogamis are defining state of the art right now.

Are they not destroyer class?


Edit: My bad. Wiki says they are frigate class.